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April 30th, 2013 at 1:03 PM
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MBB: 2014 Detroit Pershing PF Justin Tillman (reportedly) offered

Per a Detroit News article, Michigan has offered 2014 Justin Tillman, a 6'7" (per Rivals) PF out of Detroit Pershing (may be a bit taller now per the article).  Rivals doesn't list any offers, only interest from Xavier. 247 lists offers from Oakland, Indiana St, BGSU, and Detroit, and interest from a handful of other, higher ranked schools.

Not sure I believe that this is a committable offer, but it'll be interesting to see how this plays out. I assume he's visited, a Beilein pre-requisite to an offer, since he's from Detroit but I'm not sure I believe they're ready to move on from Vince Edwards and/or Trevon Bluiett yet.

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April 30th, 2013 at 1:03 PM
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April 30th, 2013 at 1:08 PM
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No offense to Mr. Tillman, or

No offense to Mr. Tillman, or John Beilein's scouting ability...but I was hoping for some real high recruits after the run we made this year.  If this is a commitable offer, it seems Beilein is comfortable taking players in his mold and continuing to develop them rather than going for the 5 stars.  I hope this doesn't mean we are giving up on Blueitt, Booker, etc.

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April 30th, 2013 at 1:13 PM
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I hear you.

Assuming that, like me, you aren't a scout, it's easiest (and probably most fun) when our program goes after guys universally rated highly by scouting services and/or have offers from programs we consider "big time."  But it is so evident that Beilein knows what he's doing -- from Stu, to Zack, to Darius (highly rated recruit, but essentially came down to Wash St. and us), to THJ, to Trey, to GRIII before he blew up on the rating services, etc.... I mean, really, with Beilein, this is just sit back and let the man do his work, time for me.

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April 30th, 2013 at 1:27 PM
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Agreed, though many times

Agreed, though many times highly ranked recruits are just that...highly skilled.  Beilein has made a career at finding and developing talent.  It just seems like this would be the perfect year to land TOP talent and not have to worry about developing as much. Look at the offer list of some of these other kids (by most accounts are are in contention for many of them):

http://www.umhoops.com/recruiting/2014-recruits-2/

Tilman looks like LeVert to me.  A long, super skinny kid who needs to get into the S&C program before he can compete in the Big Ten.

I have followed Beilein's career closely since he came to UofM.  I knew Darius Morris and Trey Burke would be special from their high school videos.  I was amazed when we landed Mitch McGary when he was highly ranked.  Others like GR3 and Stauskas flew under the radar a bit.

This just feels like "settling" to me.  Maybe we aren't really in contention for Looney, Booker, Blueitt, Edwards, etc like I thought we were.

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April 30th, 2013 at 1:35 PM
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There is nothing about

There is nothing about Tillman or his game that reminds me of LeVert. Two entirely different players and I say this as a compliment to both.

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April 30th, 2013 at 2:11 PM
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I mean the thing is in a

I mean the thing is in a class where we're going to recruit 5 or so players we're going to want a mix of top shelf guys and more developmental ones. Even if we get someone like Looney, he's the type whose a one and done type player and we're going to want some other guys in the class who are going to stick around.



Look at someone like Lavert who will be a 4 year player and who is going to be someone is going to be a contributor. We're going to continue to want guys like that and then mix in the McGary types.



And also John Beilen has a pretty freak track record when it comes to identifying under the radar guys.

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April 30th, 2013 at 3:05 PM
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If Beilein thinks he's going to be good, I'll trust him.

But you never want to recruit "Developmental guys" unless you don't have anyone else to fill the scholarahip. If you can get give top shelf guys, go get five top shelf guys and win some championships now. Worry about later later.

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April 30th, 2013 at 1:38 PM
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Booker is a SG so I don't

Booker is a SG so I don't think this changes his recruitment. 

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April 30th, 2013 at 1:38 PM
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Well he is a 4-star to ESPN.

Well he is a 4-star to ESPN.

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April 30th, 2013 at 2:41 PM
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Tillman is a 4 star? Ok then

Tillman is a 4 star? Ok then I guess I have no career as a scout. ;)



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April 30th, 2013 at 1:42 PM
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But Trey Burke was only a 3

But Trey Burke was only a 3 star.

Oh darn. 

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April 30th, 2013 at 2:18 PM
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Most likely, the biggest boost to our

recruiting (due to the NCAA run this year) will be the 2015, 2016 classes.  I'd guess a lot of kids in 2014 already have their preferences of programs one way or the other.  Still, I like what I see with Tillman.  He looks like someone who the coaches could develop into a very good Big Ten player.  Besides, I think it's good to have a balance between signing good solid players who develop over time (and stay for 4 years) AND highly rated guys who can play right away. 

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April 30th, 2013 at 1:26 PM
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Hard to tell from a couple

Hard to tell from a couple videos, but the kid definitely has talent. I like that he looked very comfortable catching the ball close to the basket, and he knew what to do with it. Kid is a scorer and all teams need scorers. I bet he is tough in a game of 21.

Thinking back to the end of the regular season, it seemed M missed an exorbitant amount of layups and put backs, this is the type of kid who makes those shots because he is comfortable around the basket and knows how to convert close up attempts.

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April 30th, 2013 at 1:23 PM
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Detroit Pershing

I keep waiting for that school to change its name to "Detroit Willie Mitchell." 

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April 30th, 2013 at 1:32 PM
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Willie Mitchell would be far

Willie Mitchell would be far down the list of best players to come out of Pershing, going back to the days of Spencer Haywood and Ralph Simpson on to the present.

It would be nice to get a recruit out of the PSL in general and Pershing in particular. Sparty has done nicely at Pershing, with the likes of Steve Smith, and more recently Derrick Nix and Keith Appling. Break the Izzo pipeline yall.

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April 30th, 2013 at 2:33 PM
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Willie Mitchell

See, for years I would always complain to my buddies that none of the great prospects out of Detroit Pershing would ever sign with Michigan, and inevitably somebody would say, "but we got Willie Mitchell!"  So now I have this name association thing going on between Detroit Pershing and Willie Mitchell.

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April 30th, 2013 at 1:24 PM
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This kid has an

amazing frame for a Jr. in high school.  He looks like with some work he could have an NBA body easily.

 

 

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April 30th, 2013 at 1:44 PM
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Same school as Deshawn.

Same school as Deshawn.

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April 30th, 2013 at 1:27 PM
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Looks good to me

Athletic, long, nice touch, finishes, uses the backboard nicely and looks like a legit 6'9"

We are going to need a lot of guys after next season, I would love to get Tillman, we need guys like this.

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April 30th, 2013 at 1:44 PM
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The onething about Coach B

he's always on the search for the hidden gem. Kinda of reminds me of Bill Frieder...puts in his work on the recuriting trail. Yes,Coach B,please interrupt the Doughboy to sparty pipeline.

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April 30th, 2013 at 3:08 PM
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This may be the only time

That John Beilein and Bill Frieder will ever be said to be alike.

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April 30th, 2013 at 4:12 PM
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Only on the recuriting trail

Imo,do I see the similarity. Yes,that where it stops.

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April 30th, 2013 at 1:51 PM
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According to Tillman's AAU

According to Tillman's AAU coach, Tillman has interest but no offer yet from UM.  This is from a @UMHoops RT of a tweet from the coach @MichaelAllie  

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April 30th, 2013 at 2:42 PM
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Here is a list of Pershing

Here is a list of Pershing players who have been in the running for Michigan Mr. Basketball thru the years. The list includes 3 winners of the prestigious Mr. Basketball award:

Willie Mitchell

Derrick Nix

Keith Appling

Edit: pretty sure Winfred Walton was Mr. Basketball as well




name college hs senior
Steve Smith MSU 87
Lorenzo Orr USC 90
  Carlos Williams UAB 93
  Todd Burgan Syracuse 93
WILLIE MITCHELL Michigan 94
WINFRED WALTON Fresno State 96
Arthur Johnson Missouri 00
DeShawn Sims Michigan 06
 DERRICK NIX MSU 09
 KEITH APPLING MSU 10

 

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April 30th, 2013 at 5:55 PM
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Derrick Nix

winning Mr. Basketball was one of the biggest jokes in my lifetime.  300 lbs, could barely move up and down the floor.  Sat under the basket waited for rebounds and was just 2x's bigger than anyone guarding him.  He did nothing outside of 3 feet.

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April 30th, 2013 at 2:06 PM
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Get in there Coach B!

Get in there Coach B!

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April 30th, 2013 at 2:24 PM
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he does not have an offer....

this article is not accurate...Sam Webb has said so

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April 30th, 2013 at 3:09 PM
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Which is embarrassing

Since Sam writes for the Detroit News too. (For the News, not Sam)

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April 30th, 2013 at 2:50 PM
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UM Hoops reporting we have

UM Hoops reporting we have interest in him; have not offered.

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April 30th, 2013 at 3:18 PM
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Some More From UMHoops...

About halfway down the page (HERE) is their scouting summary from the Michigan Invitational on Justin Tillman from that event. 

Here you can see what UMHoops saw, in slightly abridged form (as these are just highlights), of course:

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April 30th, 2013 at 3:41 PM
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Wow thanks for posting. What

Wow thanks for posting. What a difference a year makes Tilman looks much bigger and mature in this video. You can see why Michigan and other schools would have major interest in this kid he is going to be playing college basketball at a very high level. Between his growth spurt and being injured much of his junior season, it is easy to see why he is an under the radar recruit at the moment.

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April 30th, 2013 at 6:59 PM
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Seeing wide open dunks is

Seeing wide open dunks is usually common in AAU highlights.

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April 30th, 2013 at 9:45 PM
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I know these are Hghlights

but he hs very quick elevation.  I see a lot of times where he just beats his man to the rim.  Same with his short jumpers... Very quick elevation.  BTW, I am so used to seeing showboating, chest thumping, and jaw jacking.  Anyone notice this guy does what he does like he expects it.

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April 30th, 2013 at 4:08 PM
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Perhaps,this young man

will get the ball rolling with the 2014 class.

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April 30th, 2013 at 4:49 PM
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Too late for that. Ricky

Too late for that. Ricky Doyle already got that ball rolling!

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April 30th, 2013 at 4:51 PM
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Too late for that. Ricky

Too late for that. Ricky Doyle already got that ball rolling!
Double post dammit. I can't wait until the day I can just recite the words "post this" instead of using my fat fingers!

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April 30th, 2013 at 7:19 PM
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ESPN has him as the number

ESPN has him as the number one player in the state of Michigan in 2014, so looks like other services are a little behind on this kid. His HS is a pipeline of talent, so that another plus of this offer. He doesnt have alot of video which could be part of problem why he isnt rated on scouts/rivals. 

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