edit: to fix title since I was a dumb shit and put mmb
edit: to fix title since I was a dumb shit and put mmb
I think the fact that duke won yesterday hurt our rankings a little, they won't rank us higher than duke at this point in the season because they beat us.
But also makes the Duke loss more explainable if they're better so pros and cons
How would it make the Duke loss more explainable, because Duke is ranked higher now? What about comparing rankings at the time of the game? Using the teams' rankings now as a reason to explain that loss totally disregards how each team is trending; where the game was played; who may have been hurt/injured/experiencing a boo-boo then versus who may have those conditions now.
It was a loss. It sucks. I wish we'd won. It's fucking Duke. Duke is Duke. Mostly, I'm just glad we're playing well right now.
That Wisconsin win can really give this team a burst going into a really tough part of their conference schedule.
Duke winning makes their resume stronger which makes it less of a "bad loss" if they're a better team. Is what my reply meant to say
Ahhh...gotcha. I probably should've picked up on that.
Early season rankings are not very good indicators of how good your team is. We are a better team now while ranked #20 than we were early in the season when ranked #9.
According to that logic, shouldn't Wisconsin be below Michigan in the rankings?
Makes sense to me. Clearly Michigan is 14 spots behind Wisconsin.
Clearly they are.
Did you not just witness Wisconsin's decisive win last night over Michigan?
head to head wins shouldn't factor into it. You have to look at the season as whole so far Wisconsin has been the better team of the two based on resume.
Michigan Marching Band?? I'm sure they finished the season #1.
Sorry! Couldn't resist... MMB = Michigan Marching Band, MBB = Michigan Basket Ball
Don't know if there's consensus, but I've always viewed it just that way. Great for the basketball team though to be ranked again.
MBB not men's basketball?
Before OP edited, it said "MMB"...
when did they make basketball two words?
not passing judgement...
In the last AP poll, I think it was MSU at #3, Wisconsin at #4, Ohio State and Iowa both somewhere in the 10-15 range, as I recall. We actually would have been 31st, I believe, with the 11 votes we did get. I am very curious to see where last night's performance puts us in the other polls, needless to say.
This ^,,, totally this! Although I'm not sure the band would rnk any higher after some of performances last year. "Wedding at the Big House"?! Sheesh!
Those trumpet players have quite the bounce pass skill.
and they're still 16?
this next week is big in proving where we really belong
other teams as we'll..
First ever! go me
How does Wisky drop two straight and only fall from 3 to 5?
3 to 6, I mean.
Even with two straight loses, they're still 16-2. It's not like college football, where a loss or two sends you careening downwards in the polls.
A loss to unranked Indiana and a loss at home to unranked Michigan? If they only lose two games all year, I'm fine with them being that high, but the losses have to mean something.
Yes, but so does their 16 wins. Who is behind them that should be ranked ahead?
After two lossess this week I'm surprised that Wisconsin didn't fall farther.
Michigan is looking better and better. But its vital that they protect home court vs. Iowa.
It really doesn't matter right now but Wisconsin being #6 is a joke. They lost 2 straight, once at home, and lost to a team that just lost to Northwestern.
They being said, Wisconsin being ranked high can only help us.
Wichita St is undefeated, too. At the very least, they should swap spots with Wisconsin. And we should be 15th.
OSU is #18. Cincy is #16.
I'm positive when I originally pulled it OSU was 16. There was more of a gap between Michigan and OSU.
Wisky and Ohio are still highly ranked because they play in the B1G. It's an SEC Football-like effect.
Enjoy it while we can maintain the aura as a conference.
That is certainly not a bad thing, especially for B1G teams that are in the 4th-6th in the conference come NCAA seeding time. If you have a win over the top few B1G finishers, it is counted as a very big win.
It may not be fair, but it is somewhat deserved through results and benefits Michigan in years it isn't in the top three in the conference.
I'm OK with the ranking. Beating Wisconsin was huge, but not all of our B1G wins have been pretty nor were two of of our early season losses What I like is the trend. If Wisconsion or OSU lose another game in short order, their rankings will drop considerably.
We are still working with a youth movement upon which Beilein's skills as a teacher should yield benefits as the season goes on. Even without McGary, his replacements are starting to look very good, and can give ten fouls a game between them.
Question for the board...is Wisconsin's inside defense really weak or has it been a two game aberraion?
This is just one guys opinion, not an official poll/ranking.
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#20 is fine, at least were in the rankings again. Just keep winning And the rest will take care of itself !
Love the Bo Ryan gif
2 losses to 2 unranked schools an Wisky only falls 3 spots?
These are not official rankings.
Wisconsin has a joke schedule remaining, Michigan has a brutal one. Who knows perhaps the voters are ranking in advance...
Rankings are still meaningless in basketball, but this is well deserved. This is only the beginning of a brutal stretch of games though, but I say bring it on. M is playing well enough to beat them all.
Shouldn't Wisconsin have fallen out of the top ten, considering how they were thoroughly outplayed by a young team at home, and even missing its best player?
I assumed they'd have been # 11 and us around # 16.....
Granted, any team can have a bad game, but to drop only three spots after that shellacking?
Not to mention their loss at Indiana
I wonder how it is possible to go 0-2 on the week and only fall three places
BBall... Was that rhetorical???
Keep in mind these I like to double post
Keep in mind these are just one person's rankings and not official ones.
msu at 3. I like it.
Just get to the dance and win.
It's not like football where you needed to be ranked higher to get to the BCS in some cases.
I've never seen any indication that the polls play even the slightest role in the seedings.
Much better ranking than one guy's personal opinion at CBS.
B1G is pretty good this year. Didn't see Iowa and Minny coming to saw the least.
Minnesota has lots of weaknesses, not sure they'll be top 25 by the end of the season, but Iowa does seem scary as hell. Wednesday will be a heck of a game.
2 road wins over top 15 teams. That is a solid start to the B1G season. We have a brutal stretch coming up, but I am really happy with how the team is stepping up since losing McGary.
We split the next two and I would expect a move to around 17/18. Agree that this is an important issue; would be great to be able to get to the 4/5 line for the tourney.
Wisc is #10-#11.
So the gap between UM and Wisc is very small according to these rating methods. These methods also are likely to predict future results much better than human polls would.
*the Golden Mean and Predictor ratings.
How does Wisconsin not drop more after losing 2 straight.