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Max Redfield Decommits from USC

Max Redfield has decommitted from USC.

Why is this relevant may you ask? USC's class was full prior to this decommittment....and Redfield for those of you who don't know is a Safety. Therefore there is now a spot for Leon McQuay III in their class. The competition is now on.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8594585...

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November 5th, 2012 at 1:42 AM | Bad News all around. Mcquay (Score:5 Normal)
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Bad News all around. Mcquay now has a spot at USC and it sounds like ND is the leader for Redfield

 

 

 
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November 5th, 2012 at 2:02 AM | Obligatory (Score:5 Normal)
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How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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November 5th, 2012 at 2:04 AM | Has McQuay visited USC? (Score:1)
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Has McQuay visited USC?

"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"

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November 5th, 2012 at 2:06 AM | According to his 247sports (Score:3 Normal)
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According to his 247sports profile he took an unofficial visit on Sept. 2.  

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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November 5th, 2012 at 2:11 AM | So USC has the number 3 (Score:5 Normal)
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So USC has the number 3 safety(a 4 star) according to Rivals decommit and they may just pick up the number 2(a five star) safety to replace him.  That class is unreal, it's a shame their coach is terrible.

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November 5th, 2012 at 2:22 AM | Actually (Score:3 Normal)
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No it isn't.

I prefer my competition to be incompetent. Especially when that comp already has an unfair advantage.

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November 5th, 2012 at 3:19 AM | And what is their unfair (Score:2 Normal)
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And what is their unfair advantage?

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November 5th, 2012 at 3:47 AM | Lets see... (Score:5 Normal)
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Larger in state talent pool. Beautiful weather. Tons of beautiful women. Better off campus locations. More recent championship success. Those are starters. Do I need to go on? Because OJ Mayo and Reggie Bush have some people around them that have described some of the other benefits.

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November 5th, 2012 at 4:34 AM | I wouldn't call the weather, (Score:3 Normal)
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I wouldn't call the weather, location, or recent success an unfair advantage, is it an advantage, in most circumstances yes, is it unfair, no.

As for OJ Mayo and Reggie Bush, well if you are going to count that against USC, then I guess the bball team has an unfair advantage thanks to CWebb.

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November 5th, 2012 at 8:20 AM | Unfair? (Score:0 Flamebait)
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The only really unfair advantages USC have are the ones they make unfair by cheating.  Having famous actors and musical artists tell recruits how great they are and how they will "help them get into the biz," when they are mediocre performers at best, is a great example.  

Also, is there anyone who doesn't believe that USC is one of the top three or four teams in paying players?   Reggie Bush was just one of the few whose parents got caught, but I can't imagine there not being a lot more.  We've all heard the rumors; we've all seen the last-second "flips."  

Other programs give golden handshakes; USC boosters can afford to give houses.  If one was stupid enough to make such an easily-traced "contribution," how many are giving "monopoly money" under the table?

Speaking of which, I wonder if they have already given Redfield money?  I don't know if I'd want to risk recruiting him now.

 

 

 

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November 5th, 2012 at 11:49 AM | With respect to alledgely (Score:2 Normal)
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With respect to alledgely giving Redfield money, I wonder if they did (allegedly), could they get it back, like a quasi-return policy?  That would be cool if there were rules like that in rule-breaking moves like paying recruits.

 

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November 5th, 2012 at 3:51 PM | That's not an unfair (Score:2)
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That's not an unfair advantage.  An unfair advantage is paying players, giving them extra other perks which are not the norm or skirting violations, recruiting improprieties, etc.

The weather, in-state talent, demographic, location, etc. just are what they are. 

Aside from recent championship success, UCLA is not much different from USC, in terms of what you've listed (and UCLA's main campus is in a better area than USC, imo).  I'm sure UCLA were wishing for some of your so-called unfair advantage.

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November 5th, 2012 at 4:22 PM | I would consider your opinion (Score:2)
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I would consider your opinion to be a fact.  I don't feel scared walking around UCLA at night.  USC on the other hand is a whole different story. 

Greetings from Bolivia.

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November 5th, 2012 at 5:04 PM | Better off campus locations? (Score:1)
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Have you been to SC? If you mean by "better off campus locations" an hour in the car to get to the beach, sure, but USC's immediate off campus locations are, ummm....the opposite of good/sate. To say that the campus is in a shitty shitty neighborhood is an understatement. Funny enough, back in the day, the city of LA offered SC the land where UCLA now sits. USC declined, they wanted to be closer to downtown....EPIC FAIL. While UCLA sits in lovely Westwood, SC is in the middle of the projects. I will agree with you on the weather part. The women..yeah, LA has pretty women, but so do most large cities (Miami, NY, Chicago, San Diego, Seattle, etc etc). Ann Arbor has it's share as well =) 

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November 5th, 2012 at 2:15 AM | AA Music v USC Music (Score:1)
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hopefully snoop isn't involved in his next usc visit.

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November 5th, 2012 at 2:24 AM | Decommits (Score:1 Overrated)
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On the bright side, maybe this will move UM's class back into first place on Scout.com for a while.

"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion

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November 5th, 2012 at 2:33 AM | Well let's hope Hoke can pull (Score:1)
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Well let's hope Hoke can pull some more recruiting mojo out of his hat

"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"

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November 5th, 2012 at 2:34 AM | McQuay is as good as gone. (Score:0 Normal)
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Sucks, but that's life.

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November 5th, 2012 at 2:45 AM | I'm starting to feel that way (Score:2)
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I'm starting to feel that way as well.  The only reason for any optimism is that he is still scheduled to visit for the Northwestern game.

The most recent articles on Rivals don't mention Michigan at all.  I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens after the visit.  

Greetings from Bolivia.

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November 5th, 2012 at 8:58 AM | Were you actually expecting (Score:4 Normal)
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Were you actually expecting McQuay to end up at UM? I know I wasn't (am not). UM is probably in 3rd or 4th place for McQuay.

Just like last season, UM will likely whiff on the remaining elite targets on their board: Treadwell (Oklahoma or Okie St), McQuay (USC or FSU) and Green (I think he ends up at an ACC school like FSU, VT or Clemson). UM will probably be filling out the remainder of the class with "sleepers" again. Except for the lack of an elte WR, though, I am already perfectly comfortable with UM's class as is.

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

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November 5th, 2012 at 10:08 AM | Agree with most of this (Score:1)
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Agree with most of this except the Treadwell part. I still think he's UM bound. Just taking his time and doing it the right way. I'd be surprised to see him elsewhere.

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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November 5th, 2012 at 11:31 AM | Hope so on Treadwell (Score:2 Normal)
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Hope so on Treadwell, but there hasn't been a ton of positive news for Michigan recruiting lately.  Think this class closes out with a wimper rather than the bang many of us were hoping for about 6 months ago.

But don't get me wrong, its still a really good class though.  Lots of guys to be excited about.

Hot dogs are the devil.

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November 5th, 2012 at 11:41 AM | Just a gut feeling that tells (Score:2 Normal)
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Just a gut feeling that tells me he knows hes coming to UM but wants to enjoy the process. Nothing wrong with that IMO.

What's your take on chicken/turkey sausage? I sort of understand the hot dog hate but man I couldn't live without chicken sausage. Top it with jalapeno mustard, relish and onion. No ketchup. Never ketchup.

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

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November 5th, 2012 at 1:20 PM | I'd much prefer a gut feeling (Score:2)
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I'd much prefer a gut feeling from Sam Webb.  Unless, of course, you are Sam.

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November 5th, 2012 at 3:04 PM | Breakfast sausage (Score:2 Underrated)
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Big fan of breakfast sausage, and chicken or turkey sausage is AOK.  But the rest of the day belongs to burgers.

Hot dogs are the devil.

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November 5th, 2012 at 10:48 AM | Agree on Green to ACC (Score:1)
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Green just tweeted the other day that Miami is back in the mix as well.  I think both he and McQuay are real long shots, and wouldn't be surprised at all to see Treadwell wind up elsewhere.

Hot dogs are the devil.

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November 5th, 2012 at 11:40 AM | Seriously? (Score:2 Normal)
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I get that last year's class didn't close strongly (forgetting for the moment that it was a top 15 class), but the pessimism of posts like this are idiculous.   I agree that McQuay is a longshot but I don't see any reason to think that Michigan isn't close/leads for Treadwell and Green.

Treadwell has maintainted throughout that he loves Michigan and I haven't seen any analyst that doesn't think that we're in the lead.   As for Green, the only school that you mention that is even a finalist is Va. Tech.   The schools that appear to be the closest to Michigan among his favorites-- Auburn and Tennessee-- are having terrible seasons.

Now, maybe none of these guys will end up in Ann Arbor, but to say that we'll "likely whiff" on those targets just isn't in line with the current reality of the situation.

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November 5th, 2012 at 2:56 AM | If I were a defensive player, (Score:5 Normal)
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If I were a defensive player, USC wouldn't be near the top of my list. They have tons of defensive talent, yet are terrible.

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Makes me wonder how Monte Kiffin was so revered in the NFL...

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November 5th, 2012 at 9:20 AM | Oregon may be (Score:1)
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a pretty good team. Certainly the most prolific offense of this period in football history. I would like to see them beat AL. 

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November 5th, 2012 at 10:34 AM | Absolutely (Score:5 Normal)
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Oregon is a damn machine, of course, but USC has given up 29 to Syracuse, 28 to Utah, and 39 to AZ and our old friend down there, which indicates that their defense isn't performing as well it should, given its talent.

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November 5th, 2012 at 3:24 AM | Whatever happened to Monte (Score:5 Normal)
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Whatever happened to Monte Kiffin and his great defenses?

Mattison >>>>>>> Monte Kiffin

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November 5th, 2012 at 5:13 AM | We can pray that McQuay (Score:1)
coldnjl
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We can pray that McQuay watched that Defense play 2 hand touch against Oregon. Maybe he wants to play for a DC that can actually coach up a unit and prepare it for the next level

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November 5th, 2012 at 9:15 AM | I just had a terrifying (Score:2 Normal)
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I just had a terrifying thought as I considered how our defense would have faired against Oregon's offense.

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November 5th, 2012 at 10:22 AM | Actually, I think our D would (Score:1 Overrated)
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Actually, I think our D would have fared better than USCs.  USC clearly has a talent advantage but the defensive scheme was terrible.  Oregon was getting 10 yards a pop running the ball it seemed.  Our line and linebacks would have fared better than that IMO.  Our secondary might have had issues I will give you that.

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November 5th, 2012 at 11:34 AM | Kind of par for the course for Oregon though (Score:1)
I Like Burgers
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Getting 10 yards a pop is kind of what Oregon does though.  They go fast, fast, fast, and then before you know it, they've popped off a 50yd play.  We're still thin on depth on defense (as is USC) and that would eventually cause problems for us.

Hot dogs are the devil.

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November 5th, 2012 at 2:54 PM | People in LA are getting (Score:2)
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People in LA are getting restless and impatient with the USC defense.  There are people saying that Lane should fire his dad because his schemes are outdated. 

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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November 5th, 2012 at 10:34 AM | Agreed. There are 4 or 5 teams... (Score:2 Normal)
jmdblue
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including Oregon, Alabama, LSU....decidedly not ND...that are playing an entirely different game than everyone else.  I firmly believe we will be there by 2014 or 2015 depending on QB development, but for now those teams would (and in Alabama's case did) make us look bad.

We're gonna play with toughness, we're gonna be responsible and we're gonna play with toughness.  This is Michigan.

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November 5th, 2012 at 10:48 AM | Monte Kiffin is NOT the DC (Score:3 Normal)
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Before you go bashing Monte Kiffin as a DC, realize he is not the DC this year. Ed Orgeron is DC. Kiffin was DC last year when USC beat Oregon on their own field.



With that said, I would take Mattison as well.

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November 5th, 2012 at 2:39 PM | Technically true, but Monte (Score:2)
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Technically true, but Monte is still on staff and many SC fans think he's still calling the shots on D.

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November 5th, 2012 at 2:55 PM | This is true.  Many people (Score:2)
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This is true.  Many people say that Orgeron as a DC is just a title and Monte is still calling the plays.

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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November 5th, 2012 at 11:23 AM | Quack attack obliterated (Score:3 Normal)
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Quack attack obliterated them.

I REALLY am anticipating a Bama v. Oregon matchup.  I think Bama shuts down Oregon on the strength of their front 7 on D, and heavy heavy doses of the Bama O-line with Lacy being pounded down their throats.

With our recruiting classes, I'm hoping our offensive lines of the future turn into Alabama's.  Could not be more impressed with their starting five.

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November 5th, 2012 at 3:01 AM | Goodman (Score:3 Normal)
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USC has Hawkins a CB and friend with Goodman a 4 star safety USC had offered. He might pledge soon and take Redfields spot. If he does that would keep McQuay in play.

UM will win

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November 5th, 2012 at 8:40 AM | So you only know rumors? (Score:-1 Flamebait)
SteelBrad
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So you only know rumors? Then stop acting like you know.

Forever For Michigan

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November 5th, 2012 at 9:53 AM | ...it seems like he fully (Score:2)
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...it seems like he fully admitted they were rumors.

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November 5th, 2012 at 5:10 PM | Don't hate (Score:1)
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Don't hate, Don't hate

Hail! to the Victors Valiant Hail!

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November 5th, 2012 at 11:38 AM | Agreed (Score:1)
I Like Burgers
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Goodman jump at the chance to commit.  Assuming he's still allowed to that is.  Kiffin may try and hold out for McQuay.  USC can definitely be choosey at this point.

Hot dogs are the devil.

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November 5th, 2012 at 5:57 AM | Redfields is still (Score:1)
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Redfields is still considering USC, so do they take someone or keep recruiting him...tough decision

OMG

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November 5th, 2012 at 6:57 AM | Redfield (Score:1)
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Decommitted. You take someone else. There are other fish in the sea.

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November 5th, 2012 at 6:47 AM | USC is feeling good about (Score:1)
BumpNRun
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USC is feeling good about Goodman, but are hoping to get McQuay, or perhaps even Preist Willis more in play. It is by no means a lock that McQuay is off to Cali.

 

Once Redfield decommitted, that makes it unlikely he re-pledges to USC, but thats still on the table as well.

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