Sooooooo he's coming to Michigan?
Mattison walks in on meeting between Narduzzi, McDowell
One small victory for the "good guys..."
I hope it means something later.
Sam Webb tweeted that the visit went very well and that Michigan is "definitely still in it!" Yay?!?!
Get your hopes up.
Swag Mattison don't give a F.
"That's what we try to do."
Fuck yes. Hilarious.
Has to be all the points
As if the anticipation could not have become greater.
especially if it was MSU time. How would we feel if Narduzzi did that to Mattison?
Didn't Dantonio or Narduzzi interrupt one of the assistants when they were speaking at like a HS coaches meeting?
What's your point?
I think his point is that he is wondering if that happened...
To hell with MSU
Solid argument. Really great work.
Just to answer the question, it was an early 2012 meeting of the Michigan High School Football Coaches' Association, I believe, when Jeff Hecklinski was interrupted by Mark Dantonio. As I recall, the reason that Dantonio gave essentially is that he found the tenor of Hecklinski's remarks a little too Michigan-centeic for the occasion. Supposedly, there was a misconception about the format of the forum that was being held which led to this.
In any case, I think that was a totally different situation that what the OP is reporting.
You are a wealth of knowledge my friend.
I think this kind of 'unpoliteness' is reasonably common in recruiting. I've heard of this exact 'accident' a few times over the years and I am certain that with the amount of negative recruiting that goes on off the record that this is about as tame as it gets
It was a joke. People get jokes, even if they're MSU people.
The RCMB is righteously pissed.
So what? Let them be pissed. They were all laughing and crowing when D'Antonio did it to Heck. Let em get all salty.
By "MSU people" I was actually referring to Narduzzi. RCMB pushes my definition of "people." They're awful.
Oh man. I'm almost scared to check RCMB.
Who am i kidding? I will laugh my ass off when I go read RCMB.
There is no class anymore. This is a cut throat buisness and you gotta do whatcha' gotta do to get the job done. You want to show class to MSU? So they don't call us scum? They will say we have no class no matter what. Fuck them and fuck everyone else. We want championships, not friends.
Geez, don't be a noob. Mattison knows what he's doing.
Everyone would be very upset. It's ok when the shoe is on the other foot, though.
Maybe we would be upset. And what is wrong with that?
Is this not simply an extension of taking a little time to enjoy OSU losing 5 of the last 6 basketball games? Just because we wouldn't like it if it were done to us, doesn't mean this is some terribly treacherous act. It's funny. To an unbiased observer, it'd be funny if MSU did it to us, even if we didn't like it. Some people on this board need to start buying their panties a few sizes larger, so they're not constantly riding their cracks.
Like when they interrupted Hecklinski?
I have almost been pulled back in!
I thought this was interesting regarding McDowell not taking an official visit to Michigan:
(Malik McDowell won’t officially visit Michigan because “I’ve seen Michigan so many times, it’s unbelievable. I’ve been on an academic tour nine or 10 times.”)
Sam Webb also talked about this issue on today's recruiting roundup thanks to a question from Don. Sam also emphasized that the entire McDowell family was not present for MSU's in-home visit yesterday, in contrast to the in-homes with FSU and Michigan, where the entire family was or would be present—perhaps signaling that this recruitment is trending away from MSU.
I've never been sure, is the Don who always calls WTKA the same "Don" on this board?
is different from the one here.
Knows his stuff. I always trust in him.
I like our chances with that comment.
Some kids say it is about academics and then commit to some skool (Bama) wit no learnin. Touring Michigan "nine or 10 times" away from the football facilities means he's serious about it. His parents like Michigan for this reason, so they've most likely been impressed by the tours. Having parents not around for in home visits says a lot, especially when the entire family is there for Michigan's visit.
I will be surprised if he doesn't come here.
Unless he wants to be a Rhodes Scholar. In which case, he should commit to FSU, draw our ire, then shock the hell out of us when this happens...
or would this have been douchey if it was something an MSU coach did to us? I love Mattison. And yes, swag for days. But I just keep thinking this sounds like a Dantonio-y attention grab.
Please, prove me incorrect.
Being funny about it among peers vs barging in on an assistant and yelling/complaining about allotted times are two very different situations and reactions.
like that with a sense of humor, it's not really douchey. What Dantonio did with Hecklinski was somewhat similar, except that he threw a hissy fit while interrupting him.
I agree. It's all in the delivery.
The important thing is that McDowell thought it was funny.
In the article, he says it made him laugh, so...check.
Crootin', indeed. I'd love to hear more about this story, to get a little more context.
Recruiting definitely has to suck.
and classless. A couple might acknowledge that it took balls, but most would probably act like it was a mortal sin. Thus is fandom.
So sayeth aplatypus.
Are you calling Narduzzi a douche?
Okay, just checking.
I thought that part was rather obvious...
It's not nearly as big of a deal as you think. Mattison did something funny, and it was over. It's just personality, not a big deal.
You see it as funny but it was in fact rude. Personality or lack of respect? Mattison pulled an asshole move.
maybe Mattison believes the ends justify the means?
This is from the Lincoln Journal Star -- Regarding Bo Pelini and George O'Leary showing up at a recruit's house at the same time (emphasis mine).
So if you're going to take the journey, you best do it with some humor.
And you'd have to say it's somewhat humorous when Bo Pelini shows up at the doorstep of a Central Florida commit at the same time as Central Florida coach George O'Leary... We know this happened on Tuesday thanks to Twitter, and a tweet from the recruit both coaches showed up to see.
"Coach pelini and coach o'leary came at the exact same time... #fireworks #bumpinheads" tweeted defensive tackle Jamiyus Pittman.
The exerpts that you used don't talk about a coach knowingly interrupting another and those two schools are not rivals. The part on humour looks like it is from the author's mind and not from a coach otherwise it should be cited as such. I do appreciate what you did as opposed to name calling and making nonsensical opinions out to be facts.
You are basing this on a single snippet in an article, with no background and no follow-up, speaking of making nonsensical opinions out to be fact.
How 'bout a beer and a shot?
the situations are different... That wasn't the point. Recruiting is a blood sport. It pays to have a good sense of humor, that's all.
You were not there and came to this judgement based off a comment from a teenager? That's a pretty asshole assumption!
And If they ran over the allotted time? Perfectly acceptable.
His opinion matters. Yours, not so much. These coaches know each other and by now they know the recruits pretty well too. Give Mattison a little credit for knowing how his little stunt would be received.
But Mattison and Urban actually like each other. I don't know of Narduzzi and Mattison's relationship, but they might be friendly too. And there is a real good chance that Narduzzi got a laugh too. (Unless he didn't, I don't know.)
maybe the allotted 45 min were up and that was mattison's humorous way of letting them know. is the alternative to let him keep going as long as he wants?
a single anecdote in a FP article?
Malik was laughing so he must not have seen it as a dick move
Dickhead Dantoni DID do it to Hecklinski
None of us know what happened first hand. Narduzzi could've found it to be funny as well. if not then oh well, i am sure there are worse stories from the recruiting trail we've never heard.
I find the longer you do something the more you allowed to say almost anything you want. I bet Narduzzi thought it was funny too and wished he could have said it. I suspect there was more to the story like Narduzzi getting 30 minutes and then going over his time allotment..
All I've read all day is that it's between FSU and OSU.
I will be shocked if OSU. (Academics)
What have you been reading all day? With no source cited, there's no context. I've read today that it's between Michigan and MSU, with a slight chance that it's FSU.
I have no idea, man. I just hope you're wrong. Lol.
Says that Amanda Knox was found guilty and justin Bieber was being searched for pot again. Guess he's headed to EMU.
Guess you missed this bit of news today: Amanda Knox Guilty Verdict Reinstated By Italian Court
It's down to proximity (so grandma can watch him play) and mama don't like Sparty - gotta be Blue!!! ohio doesn't stand a chance even with LJ coming on board, too late in the game
If there isn't some relationship between Narduzzi and Mattison. I am sure Mattison wouldn't have come in if he thought there was a chance he'd get decked in the face or bad mouthed for it later on.
WTF is the deal with Narduzzi still coaching at MSU? Why isn't he the head coach somewhere else by now? What, is he waiting for Saban to retire?
On horse pills is all I can imagine.
Maybe some guys just want to stay as assistants
Just look at Bud Foster down at Virginia Tech
He's interviewed for multiple HC positions. He turned down UConn because he thinks ye can get a better gig eventually.
I wonder if he regrets turning down UConn. They were the only school to actually offer him, I believe.
Dantonio and Narduzzi isn't the real deal. He was only seriously considered by UConn.
Mattison : "It's my job to by god get things done. And I'm pretty damn serious about it."
That Narduzzi's wasn't over his "time limit?"
that Mattison actually think Narduzzi is a hell of a defensive coach. I doubt he was disrespecting him. He was just being a ballsy jokester.
Mattinson is the man ! Theres not a D cordinator out there id take over him.
I think people can spin this a lot of different ways to either look good or bad. We only have a little information to go by, so no one really knows if Mattison purposely interrupted Narduzzi or not. Also, I too am curious where people are reading that this is a race between everyone else, but Michigan. The little information I have gathered is that no one knows one way or another how this will turn out. I am keeping my hopes up; and I am also happy with the group we have committed to us currently.
If not, steak dinner on StraightDave for everyone in this thread.
hold you to that.
As will I
I think he will go Blue, but just in case I like mine rare plus and I'll buy my own Malbec.
And for vegetarians?
Diggs sent me here for the steak.
Getting in on this, while the getting is good!
I want McDowell but if not I'm holding you to you steak dinner offer.
As does Sparks Steakhouse in NYC
No idea where that is, but if it means free steak I'll be there. Hopefully no need for you to buy it
We get MM or free steak
Long time reader, first time free steak receiver.
Reservation at The Chophouse under MGoBlog?
I don't know if I can trust again......
I be like dang cat?
Do you mean porn?
it brings tears to my eyes! Perfect for the situation
Think it's awesome!
I think this is great. We need to coach and play with a chip on our shoulder.
The people whining about it tho. Awesome!
I don't care what sparty or other people think. Get the job done Mattison!
That is all.
Ha, ha. Mattison must have figured Narduzzi wouldn't be quick enough on his feet to embarrass him. I love those kinds of moves from the old sales pros. MadMen like.
ESPN just named Mattison the 7th best recruiter in the country.
Narduzzi was not named.
I trust Mattison knows what he's doing.
what is the % chance McDowell comes to Michigan? i say 20%.
Well, it's pretty complicated. I'm gonna go with fifty percent. He either chooses Michigan or he doesn't.
Give or take .5%
It is actually pretty funny. If Mattison really wanted to be a dick about it, he could have walked in and said something like, "Oh, you are still here? I'm sorry, but I thought you had already left for yet another interview for a head coaching position. I am really going to miss coaching against you when you leave next year."
I have never seen so many whiney people in my life as what I have seen on this site for the last couple of months. I know you won't ever miss me but I think I am taking a break from here. Maybe it will be better in awhile, I hope so, as I liked coming here a couple times a day but not anymore. I sure am glad the players are growing up faster than the fans! Go Blue always!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I honestly thought a Rabbi and a horse in a bar were going to be involved in this story from the abbreviated title.
Mattison should become our head coach.
2-10 for his career when coaching against MSU? If Narduzzi was smart, he'd have quipped, "Not at all, in fact you could probably get something out of this too..."
Oh, to be in that room when that happened. I hope Mattison whispered, "I win."
I presume this really wasn't that big of a deal to anyone involved. This isn't Dantonio yelling at another coach, or like Mattison really "interrupting" Narduzzi except I guess sitting down. Doesn't sound like anyone was too bothered.
This probably has to do with the schedule or some kind of time limit.
I'm probably being too charitable here, but just because it's a closed-door meeting doesn't mean we know anything about the timing arrangements. For example, it's possible that coaches had an allotted times with a recruit and that MSU's was coming to a close.
Can only help us that MSU sent Mr. Personality to go head to head with our own recruiting juggernaut Gmatt.
Seriously. I'm having an "either I'm crazy or all of you are crazy" moment, which seems to be happening to me a lot on this site these days. This looks so obviously to me like a lighthearted joke between Mattison, Narduzzi, and McDowell. McDowell essentially even said so.
Saying that the Michigan coaching staff was finished. Maybe it is Hoke and companies way to say STFU and stop the negative bullshit. This seems very plausable.
this would be much more funny if we had a defense that won games for us...
In 2011 and 2012 we did. We had a bad (average, really) year in 2013, but had very, very few seniors. Whatever.
I was paying my bill at Cracker Barrel in Monroe at about 11:30 am yesterday. Mattison walked in and was buying something from the store. I gave him the standard go blue and asked him how the visit went with Mcdowell. He shrugged his shoulders, smiled, and said it was interesting.....bro
That guy is way taller than I thought he was.