SMSB's U-M/OSU Clash - it was a brief verbal exchange, but Greg Mattison threw hammer down on a rival coach ($) http://michigan.scout.com/2/1300188.html#.Ub4r_9SCdUU.twitter …
Mattison - Vrabel exchange at SMSB ($)
Posts like this piss me off. I'd love to hear what Swagison said to vrabel but the article you posted is completely useless. Maybe I'll fork over an ungodly amount of money to read it.
Please explain how Matt autocorrects to swag.
Swag Mattison is the new and greatest MGO invention since Rapture Guy. It was in a Mon or Thurs recruiting some weeks back I believe. Search for it on google/mgoblog search engine. It's truly rich.
Every time someone says "not to be a dick but..."
...they're being a dick.
I'm sure all posters from here on out will be sure to cater to what pleases you and pisses you off when making posts on the board.
This is a figure of speech called a "Paralipsis" I believe. It also works for "Not to knock Denard's throwing ability but..." or "I'm not a communist but..." and all sorts of opinions you self-excuse yourself for.
In circles where these things happen, people argue whether a "that being said..." clause is a paralipsis, but I happen to think it's not. Paralipsis is anti-tautological:
- I am not this thing I am about to sound like.
- [Says the thing anyways]
"That being said..." however is a way to pretend you're one thing when you're really saying the other. "That being said..." is rhetorical trick but a different one--you think you heard the first thing, but really the "that being said..." clause disqualified everything said before it. On the other hand a paralipsis is all about disqualifying your most obvious objection to what they're about to say (usually that it comes from a completely discredited philosophy).
Long story short Mattison pulled Vrabel's punk card
Show some f*****g respect!
I love Mattison
Can anyone summarize the exchange??
Here I'll just say it. Can anyone tell us the exchange? No one should have to pay for this.
Basically campers were rotating through different stations after X amount of time. Vrabel wanted to rotate before time was up and Mattison told Vrabel he ought to be coaching his kids to the best of his ability the entire time he had them. Supposedly Mattison then made a comment to Lawrence Marshall along the lines of "that's why you don't go to OSU".
Pretty tame stuff.
What's YOUR deal?
Is this really what happened?
God we have the best damn coaches.
Vrabel: "what's your deal?"
Mattison: "what's YOUR deal?"
Vrabel clearly overmatched in this one. If you want to try and one-up the Michigan coaching staff, picking on Mattison probably isn't your best bet...
All that's left is for Al Borges to call Dantonio a sourpuss, and we're set until the start of the season.
I will mail you a dollar. I would assume that it is something they have blown out of proportion to get me to spend money and be completely let down.
Vrabel finished early and started trying to rush Mattison. Mattison told him no, hold your horses - you give the kids every minute, every second that you can. Then turned to Lawrence Marshall and said "that's why you go to Michigan and not Ohio."
The last jab is still hilarious. I love our coaching staff.
Pretty sure the mods disapprove of sharing paywalled material here
just shut up and let them do their jobs, and let us wee folk have our info and enjoy it to
Football season can't start soon enough.
and should be the guide for anyone looking to post paywalled content.
Been waiting all weekend for something worth reading on here, thanks for making my dream come true...
That would be hilarious if 5 kids flipped from OSU to the good guys.
But that would fill our class with Hand, McDowell, etc. still not committed
The only problem is that those 5 kids WANT to go to OSU, to smoke weed, skip class, and live lawless.... so there is no chance those 5 kids will flip....
And to cut practice short.
Yeah you're right, stay where you're at kids, we got bigger fish to catch.
Dantonio pokes his head up and sneers...... resumes laying in the weeds.
The mental imagine I just got of that is hilarious. So hilarious someone with my techinical ability than me should make a gif so everyone can see.
You know, I've thought that same thing and am amazed it hasn't been done yet.
I picture something like this: Dantonio's face on a hyena's body, lying in the weeds of the African savannah, pokes up to look around. Suddenly, a larger animal with Hoke's face on it, leading a herd (with UM's top recruits' faces) comes rumbling along and tramples him.
I picture him as the duck hunt dog.
This is exactly how I pictured it!
Do you put Dantonio's head on an alligator, a snake, or what?
A snake or an alligator gives him way too much credit. They're respected hunters and at the top of their good chains. I see him more of a meerkat. Popping his head up over the weeds to make sure no threats are around and then poaching whatever scraps are left
It's information, and it spreads. To expect that it's going to stay super secret because you charge someone a shitload of money for it is ridiculous. In my opinion, nobody should feel bad about relaying information they read there. If this undercuts the business model of pay sites, then they need a new business model as far as I'm concerned.
This cannot be upvoted enough. I dont understand how/why it is so dicouraged here. Virtually all public info was paid for at some point down the line. Cable, news, mag... They all cost money, yet info provided from these sources is not frowned upon?
...where you agree not to when you sign up? Otherwise, don't sign up. Integrity much?
You mean the fine print that everyone scrolls through without reading so they can get to the "I Agree to Terms" checkbox? Frankly, I don't care, and I'm going to sleep soundly tonight knowing that my integrity is solid as a rock. If I'm paying that kind of money for information (I'm not), I'll tell whoever I see fit, and the proprietors of that information are dumb to think they have any kind of power over that. Sure, Brian shouldn't be plastering that information all over the front page word for word, but if some rando wants to spill the beans on a message board so be it. Furthermore, if someone who subscribes to a pay site feels cheated that someone shared their expensive, privileged information then tough cookies. Shouldn't have wasted a bunch of money to be the first to hear some recruiting rumor that will inevitably go public about 3.2 seconds later.
that does not make it right.
You have the ethics of a Buckeye.
The flip side to Brians policy is that A. he probably has a professional relationship with the Sam Webbs of the world and B. running a site which posts "copywrighted" material for free will probably make you have some legal issues. Hence the dont post a full article, wink wink nudge nudge just summarize it policy.
....tautological. "I can lie and steal, therefore it's a poor business model and it's their fault."
So because someone can shoplift at Wal-Mart, they shouldn't charge for stuff? Because a musical artist can be pirated, they shouldn't charge for their music?
Your morals...they are missing.
Ok so basically Vrabel finished doing his instructing early and Mattison said you have to give it your all and coach to the best of your ability then turned to Marshall and said that's why you don't go to Ohio State or something of the sort. I got this from the free 247 2014 recruiting thread if anyone wants to see it discussed more in depth.
I really love this coaching staff. That is awesome
Come on, now.
When it first got posted I couldn't find any details on it except at Bucknuts. ulgh...
The only thing they are saying is that the Michigan staff has no class. U of M has no class. Michigan players have no class.
This from the cooler poopers...
Didn't Vrabel get arrested for skipping out on a tab at a casino? Now that's a classy guy
They're just used to getting free stuff so much that sometimes they forget to pay a bar tab. Or for cars, tattoos, clothes, meals etc. You can't blame them.
Being that I was formerly a bartender on the OSU campus, I have several cool bro stories that would confirm this.
did YOU ever give him free drinks?
Or did you do so and then spit in them?
Not intentionally, and not Vrabel. I was a bartender on campus circa 2005-2011. My experiences range from Bobby Carpenter and Doug Worthington to Terrelle Pryor and Jake Stoneburner. Usually some drunk kid bought their drinks. Other times they did pay, but a few times they would just order their drinks and walk into the crowd. The owners kind of shrugged it off and wipe the tab. I'd be surprised if the exact thing didn't happen on every campus though, including Ann Arbor.
I'd never spit in their drinks though. Just like in nature, I made the concious decision to encroach on their natural habitat. I was the intruder, so I just had to sit back and observe.
And I'm going to copy and paste a lot of the article here, because it came from a non-paywalled site, in case anyone is wondering:
The criminal justice system.
Acting on a tip, we contacted the Switzerland County Jail in Vervay, Indiana. Jail Commander James LaPine tells PFT that Vrabel was arrested for theft at theBelterra Casino in Florence, Indiana earlier today.
He is just used to getting everything he wants, and now he's just a guy. A guy who wants to get this drill over with and go drink more free booze at a bar. Nice stab by Mattison, and touche for the Wolverines.
Ohio players are used to getting stuff for free and being able to cheat. Their head coaches allowed it for years.
This is the same guy who gets busted for felony theft at a casino while with the KC Chiefs during NFL lockout in 2011 and a year later is coaching young men at Ohio.
"It was all a misunderstanding..."
Such bullshit. Vrabel has no integrity upon which to rely, let alone coach young people. But that's Ohio.
Yeah taking something without paying for it is a complete misunderstanding. The funny thing is my parents called it theft, instead of a misunderstanding.
Pretty mellow stuff, but that's why I love Coach Mattison.
This is why you don't pay for those sites. This isn't "premium" info. Hell, Lawrence Marshall could've told anyone he wanted...it wasn't a secret, it wasn't insider. Anyone who heard the exchange could've done the same thing. You pay to hear it first...not to be the only one who heard it. That's what people don't understand. Personally, I could've give 2 shits about hearing it first.
If you want a good free rundown of the SMSB camp go one thread up
Just strong-willed men giving each other some shade, but still a great exchange for Mattison.