Mary Sue Coleman speaking in Flint (Rodriguez, night games, etc.)
Speaking at an event in Flint, Mary Sue Coleman said that Michigan made the wrong choice in hiring Rich Rodriguez:
http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2012/05/university_of_michigan_preside_2.html
I've been to these kinds of events, where the guest of honor talks for about 20 minutes and then answers questions for another 20 minutes. I was not at this one in Flint; it sounds like all the others.
Coleman is not nearly as good at the task as is Brandon, who is a polished, disciplined speaker. And in this case, it appears that Coleman stumbled badly, which does not surprise me.
But hey, as long as President Coleman is willing to answer questions, I think it is really great, and I will have a few questions for her the next time I am at one of these events where she is speaking:
- So who do you think Michigan should have hired at the time? You may not use hindsight in this question. Jim Harbaugh was not a candidate; nor was Brady Hoke. The committee assembled by your Athletic Director at the time recommended Greg Schiano.
- Why did Michigan fail to secure the services of Jeff Casteel in early 2008?
- Explain the sudden rise in salaries for Assistant Coaches and Coordinators at Michigan after the departure of Rich Rodriguez.
- David Brandon has used some unusually pointed and colorful language to describe what was wrong in the August 2009 reporting by the Detroit Free Press. What do you have to say about the paper and its reporting?
- Have you read Three and Out? If not, why not? And before making a pronouncement on whether the Rodriguez hire had been a mistake, don't you think it would have been a good idea to read the book? Why would you have refused to speak with John U. Bacon?
University President addresses questions about Michigan Athletics = relevant
It happened yesterday = timely
Is the MGoBoard for "the entertainment of fans" (entertainment) or is it for "the edification of the interested" (news)?
If our mission is to support the team, that's one thing. Let never be heard a discouraging word.
But if the mission is to be smarter observers of the university and the athletics department, and college football in general, that's quite another matter.
I suppose that there are people who just want to be served up footbauw for their consumption. And the NFL is a perfect place for them, isn't it?
Use your own blog! It would solve every single problem. You can write about this topic all you want and the majority of this board doesn't have to read it!
Who is forcing us to read this?
Immediately after RR was fired, some people wanted to pretend he never existed, and I was all "those who fail to understand history are doomed to repeat in." But in the intervening months and months and months, we've had EVERY DEBATE POSSIBLE. Hell, someone wrote a freeking BOOK about what happened. We have no new information. We've moved beyond "healthy post hoc analysis" territory and into "Uncle Rico If-coach-woulda-put-me-in-fourth-quarter" territory.
In the words of Sean Connery: "Indiana... Indiana... let it go."
"May he who illuminated this, illuminate me."
would know, in hindsight, and tell you hiring RR was a bad move.
At the time, looked good. But it's history now.
Hoke, a man that many on here didn't want as HC, has shown that was the right man for the job.
He's reinvigorated the program.
He's took a decent team and made them pretty darn good last year.
Not sure how this year's team will follow up on the surprise that 2011 was, but Hoke has the right staff in place and has absolutely killed it on the recruiting trail to bring in great talent.
Still exepect some bumps in the road but Hoke and staff are heading the program in the right direction.
Many Alums debated that RR was a bad hire from the start...couldn't wait to see him go...and dreaded that Denard might save his ass. Fortunatly Denard couldn't play defense.
The real reason I responded to your post was Shakey Jake. Is that dude still around? I forgot all about him many years ago. Thanks for the memory!
I think you and I both expect a tougher couple of years given the schedule and the limited talent recruited in 2010 and 2009. If Hoke does well this year he is a god.
Is this thread honestly happening right now?
I think a big flag should go up every time Section 1 posts something. The Mods should be alerted and the something that was posted should be deleted. ASAP.
Seriously give it up. Its over, MICH is back on top. RR and the FREEP and everything else is in the past. We got Denard and Kovacs and Lewan and Fitz outta the deal. Be happy
She admitted to a mistake and didn't make excuses or blame others. How dare she!
multiple times. Section 1 may have asked a tired question, but it is is relevant. What are you doing?
Outside of my first post, I've only posted to implore the mods to get something to change with this wackjob.
Given your point total it looks like you succeeded in getting the mods attention at that.
You did just make a post about it and it is not worth of its own thread.
...is why MSC hasn't conducted an inquest into Harry Kipke's disastrous 1934 and 1936 seasons. What is she trying to hide? And what was Gerald Ford's role?!!! You can't conceal the truth forever.
I still want answers about Gustave Ferbert. The man was very successful for three seasons (1897-99), then resigned supposedly to hunt for gold in the Klondike. We all know this must be a lie and cover-up. What horrible scandal must have taken place to drive this man out of the job and 4,000 miles away? Tell the truth, Mary Sue!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Michigan_Wolverines_head_football_…
LET. IT. GO.
It causes me to realize I am better off alone or with someone else, and then find solace in a few Bells Oberons.
That is all...
I was one of those who defended him to the bitter end and you're making me crazy. Please stop. It does no good. We have a new coach now. If you want Arizona to be your second favorite team, great. If you want them to be your favorite team, follow them. Just let it go.
Don't care. I only talk about coaches who coach for Michigan.
This idiot meme again. It's especially ironic coming from the president of the university that makes a near-fetish of its legendarily successful coach from West Virginia named Yost. The last I checked, West Virginia is not in the Midwest.
Rich Rodriguez wasn't fired at Michigan because he didn't have a "Midwestern ethos," whatever the fuck that is. He was fired because he didn't win enough football games against the right opponents, and he didn't win enough football games largely because he wasn't a good enough head coach. Period.
Mary Sue should stick to academics. That's her expertise.
I'm pretty sure she does try to stick to academics, until morans drag her into commenting on the football team.
I think it will add to how the thread is going
I'm starting to think at some level we should get the mods to drop neg bombs (at least temp ones) on RR related content. With of course the obvious exception in cases where he says something related to his time at Michigan, another 3 And Out type book comes out, or AZ comes up on our schedule.
A general takeaway we all learned from the RR era is that a bickering fanbase serves only to erode the program. As Brian says "Hoke Uber Alles". Going after past coaches (since both Carr and RR get dragged up regarding how the transition went down) is just counter productive. Hoke is movin to establish a stable regime, let us bask in the stability of it.
If people don't care to read anything which in any way references Rich Rodriguez, they should just ignore it.
The only personal attacks and other board-violations in this thread are the ones directed at me. The problem is not the subject matter; the problem is with all of the fanboiz for whom any mention of Rodriguez somehow feels like an attack on the sanctity of their beloved football team. (I wonder how many of them are actually students, or old enough to be students. Much less graduates and professionals.)
I don't know; maybe that cohort of fans is important to Brian Cook's business model, which I along with everybody else has to respect.
Anyway, the common thread with all of the Rodriguez threads of late is that it is the Rodriguez-haters who are the first (and usually the only) ones to flip out. As if a discussion board post might destabilize the regime.
But honestly, why keep talking about it? This is, by my estimation, thread #905,560 on the RR/UM issue. And the same arguments are rehashed, and nobody budges, and it just devoles into another 100+ comment thread where everyone calls each other names.
I'm not going to question your passion for writing on this topic or your opinions Section 1, but why even get into the subject? Just let this stuff go.
Your position is that the intelligent, the educated, the financially successful among us LOVE to rehash the RR era ad nauseum. Its just the Walmarters among us who are sick to death of it. You have ALWAYS been misunderstood because of your advanced intelligence haven't you?
My Gawd, that's, that's...
Dead Horse's Music!