He's already been on the field for special teams.
Marvin Robinson to Start?
"Marvin Robinson to Start?" not "Marvin Robinson to Redshirt?"
I know. Just stating the fact that he already burned his redshirt. OK. I added nothing here. Fail on my part.
+1 for a fail that made me laugh here at work.
Hah, don't worry it's all good.
Not a fail. This sentence clearly implies he still has his red shirt: "Marvin Robinson is expected to start saturday, so he will burn his redshirt."
Yes, but that sentence was from a guy in the chat with Rittenberg, not Adam. He obviously isn't paying attention to special teams if he thinks MRob hasn't played.
Didn't Brian mention something in mail bag the last couple weeks where a guy could play the first 4 games of a year and if he gets an injury that ends his season, he wouldn't lose that year of eligibility?
He also said around week 4 is a time where injuries seem to happen.
If he can help us back there, I am all for playing him regardless of the eligibility issues.
Robinson does not play for the rest of the season (which is highly unlikely) he would still have to apply for a medical redshirt and may not even receive it.
Robinson will end up being too good not to play.
He has played on Special Teams, so a redshirt is no longer an option to begin with.
No kidding? You don't say...
i'd say you missed a little.
Starting in the Thomas Gordon spot? T-Gord has been playing decently so maybe this is a chance at giving a back-up some playing experience. If the redshirt is gone then you might as well get him some PT....also could be he really earned it in practice.
I believe he's listed on the depth chart as backing up Kovacs, so IF he is starting I'm guessing it's in place of Kovacs.
Maybe Brian's wishes are coming true and Kovacs is starting at MLB.
Wasnt he hurt anyway earlier in the season?
it may have been a very minor injury. He hasn't been listed on the injury report that last couple of weeks.
He missed the UMass game due to a minor shoulder injury.
The redshirt is gone, if our coaching staff believes that this well help the defense perform better and put us in a better position to succeed then I am all for it.
This may be a bit of an "Well, we've gotta try SOMETHING" move. That said, the kid should be good. No reason he shouldn't save inexperience.
I'm more concerned with Carvin Johnson's status.
This may be a bit of an "Well, we've gotta try SOMETHING" move.
Starting from a low base it will most likely help us. Its not a total panic move, hopefully GERG can empty the bench against BGSU and everyone gets to play like its a 2nd grade soccer game.
It is rumored that he will put the fear of God into receivers with a single stare causing all opponents to just look, cry, then give up on the routes and run off the field.
that it was seeing M-Rob on tape that caused Dantonio's heart attack.....
..... too soon?
Is this the stare you are referring to?
Instead of Sasquatch, they should have "Messin with MRob" commercials, where someone does something stupid, MRob gives them that stare and then proceeds to decapitate them.
Jesus is smart enough not to mess with MRob.
So is Sasquatch.
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Can he play shirtless too??
Yup. And he's going to carve his number into his chest right before the first snap.
Kinda like Billy in Predator.
Yes, that is the stare
I am in denver and am looking for places to hide, but no place is safe, NO PLAY IS SAFE.
Am I the only one who can't see the quote?
Anyway, I wonder if this is a move to get Kovacs into the box so that Roh can move back to DE. Either that or have MRob start at the SAM position and keep Kovacs where he is at.
T. Gordon grades out, or if he's injured.
we should get players as much as experience as we can before we start Big Ten play. Plus, I was wondering how he would stack up against Kovacs, so it will be good to get a look.
Get a young kid some experience for the long term? And risk an MGoBoard meltdown if BGSU scores over 20 points? No way, I say we do everything to throttle these "lesser" teams so that the people of MGoBoard sleep easier at night. Forget long term success, these kids at computers need something to feel good about.
I don't know, I wouldn't put much weight into something some dude from Orlando wrote in a question to ESPN's Big Ten blogger. But that's just me.
...especially because that poster from Orlando apparently thought that it would be Robinson's first time on the field.
If an "insider" doesn't know that Robinson's redshirt has already been burned, then I doubt he knows whether Robinson will start or not.
I was questioning Daniel from Orlando's credibility from the very begining.
Daniel from Orlando also gave me a great stock tip, and I sold the farm on it. Why am I so trusting?
Daniel from Orlando also gave me a great stock tip, and I sold the farm on it. Why am I so trusting?
edit: i swear I did not hit return twice. please save yourself a neg point.
Is there anyway he starts in place of C. Gordon?
Was thinking the same thing. I don't see why that wouldn't be feasible.
If Michigan has a stud like MRob who can play, then by all means put him in. This guy is one of the best recruiters for our team. I think he will be even more effective when he starts seeing the field on a more regular basis.
As for Carvin Johnson, I think they are just being cautious. They could have used him last week, but it wasn't worth bringing him back and not having him available for the Big 10 campaign. Better to sit him out this week as well and if not needed, against Indiana as well. Have him back for MSU at 100% not 75 or 80.
I doubt that whoever asked the question has any credible sources. Someone who has knowledge that M. Robinson is starting would also know that M. Robinson already played this year and thus is not redshirting. And secondly, someone with insider knowledge of M. Robinson starting wouldn't be asking Rittenbarg about what's going on with the D, since he probably knows better himself.
I like Cam even if the growing pains have been pretty obvious, any chance Mrob gets a shot at deep safety.
Didn't he do better last week? I guess he fumbled a ball he picked off, but.... he seemed to be learning.
I thought he was better but then again, did UMASS ever challenge us deep? I don't remember much of that, lots of dink and dunk roll play action pass plays.
....UMass did not go deep much. But, I know their QB couldn't find open men sometimes. Maybe he was looking downfield? They scouted us well and I would bet they were looking to burn Cam at some point.
Also, Cam seemed to do well in run support.
I think he improved.
UMass may not have gone deep very often because our DBs were 40 yds off of the line of scrimmage. Some call it a "cushion", I call it "we can't get beat deep if we start off deep" or WCGBDIWSOD for short. Quite effective at beating the long ball.
The defense was so skittish after the ND bombfest that it was a lot of umbrella coverage and 3 man rush, so UMass just took what we gave them (as far as this layman could tell).
and hit on nearly every play. I know about 1/100th of what the serious guys on this blog know, but if I were any upcoming opposing offensive coordinator, this would be a HUGE part of my gameplan
M Rob has been practicing at both free safety and as well as behind Kovacs since fall camp. He has been the unofficial backup at both spots I believe. Given Kovacs's struggles in coverage I figured we would see MRob on the field a lot more once we got away from run-first teams. If it's in place of Cam that would worry me since I feel like Gordon is almost over that Willis Barringer learning curve and MRob probably isn't much of an improvement with less experience. If he has beat out Kovacs this week that's a good sign.
If Robinson knows the defense well enough to beat out Kovacs, that could give us a real boost in terms of athleticism (and abs) in the defensive backfield. This group of young DB's could become a very good group once they gain a little more experience.
If M Rob and Thomas Gordon are on the field together. They could start tucking their jerseys under their shoulder pads to show them off like Shonte Peoples.
Per brian's implicit suggestion, it would be MRob for Kovacs at 'bandit', Kovacs for Ezeh at 'mike,.
I'm all for anything that helps this team win football games. MRob obviously has been working hard and has cracked the starting line-up. Another off season with Barwis and this kid is going to be all big ten caliber.
I think he should start at the strong safety spot and move Kovacs to the hyprid spot until C. Johnson comes back!
... even bother with AR's blog anymore, especially the email segment.
But are we putting too much stock in the statements of Daniel from Orlando?
I am stating in my own chat that I. Bell is starting for C. Roh because of a lack of pass rush. Discuss. This guy from nowhere says something stupid and all of a sudden people are running with this as fact from RR?
I thought we evolved past the 1920's where this was believed true....."it's in print it has to be true"
We were discussing why they would do such a thing, and whether or not it would be good. Nobody here is panicking or taking it as holy writ.
I think Kovacs is a serviceable player and has made plenty of plays. However, I think for every big play he makes there are 4 or 5 other plays where he is exposed due to lack of speed (i.e. pursuit angles, not getting to perimeter or not beating blocks).
Hopefully Robinson can help with some of these issues, but he is a freshman!
I'd say that there are usually a few plays per game in which his deficiencies show, but WAY more common is the play where he maintains his assignment, diagnoses the play, and reacts quickly. He's the one guy in the back 7 (8) that I trust to be in the right place at the right time. And I think today's UFR backs me up on that.
Besides, he made, what, 72 tackles last year? If you're suggesting that he screws up 4 to 5 times more often, that would be between 288 and 360 errors last year. Do you think he would have started (and been named a Freshman All-American) if that was the case?
Does anyone know if Robinson has played yet? Need good infos plz! TIA!
Yes, the freshman All-American and leading returning tackler on the team is indicative of how far we've fallen. Not the 4 year starter at MLB making the same mistakes still or the patchwork cornerback and safety spots where we have two players who were WR at this point last year starting. Kovacs isn't perfect, but he's a pretty good football player who gets way too much undeserved crap on this site.
Kovacs gets crap essentially because he isn't Te'o. He's obviously limited physically next to high level recruits, but he tackles really well and doesn't get out of position. I think fans are generally more willing to forgive a player that can't get into position properly than a player that is always in position, but can't keep up athletically. There's never a "holy shit awesome" play with those players.
Kovacs has made some flat-out awesome plays against the run. (Witness his destruction of Winston in the backfield on MSU's last play in regulation last year.) He's just not nearly as good in coverage.
I bet you were saying the same thing in '97 when Eric Mayes was starting at ILB.
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EDIT: Just as I post this.... it is freed. I feel I have done my work.
In Brian's UFR, he suggests startin Kovacs at Ezeh's spot and bringing in Marvin to fill his old spot. Apparently a 185 lb walk on can do a better job than Ezeh, which if true, lets see it happen.
That would not work.
MRob is listed behind Kovacs according to Rivals so with him and Cam Gordon back at safety there could be some interesting plays back in the secondary that may cause me to punch my sofa. But I'm glad at least one highly touted DB recruit is on the field with what happened with Emilien, Cissoko, and Dorsey. Not to mention Donovan leaving early and Troy getting hurt. But hopefully he makes a positive impact if he does get the start and Go Blue.