Nick Perry's 40 time is also insane. Man, that kid might have been the biggest loss of the past few years (given that he was originally thought to be a heavy UM lean, is from Detroit, etc.). Great athlete.
Martin runs 4.84 40
May be moving into the bottom of the first round...
That's freakin haulin for a linman!!!!
Martin was making plays from sideline to sideline all season. Hell, he probably could have made a decent middle linebacker, too.
He forced a pitch on a speed option. FROM THE NOSE!!!one!!
Re: being a Linebacker
Burkhead, who tried to pick him up on a delayed blitz agrees with you
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Among being eaten by a shark, falling off a mountain, and being lost in space, obliteration by Mike Martin is not one of th ways I would like to go.
Holy shit you can hear the impact in the 2nd video when MM crushes Burkhead. It looks like he got hit by a train. Monstrous.
I remember almost feeling sorry for Burkhead. I got over it very quickly, though.
Martin does do a good job on both plays, but I'll say this:
Play 1: That's almost an impossible block for the backside guard to reach a 1-technique on the center's opposite shoulder, especially because the center doesn't give him any help.
Play 2: Burkhead stepped up took the contact without wussing out. Of course he didn't stand a chance, but I at least liked the effort.
1. It looks like Martin tossed the gaurd to the ground like a rag doll (agree angle probably had a good amount to do with it, but HALOL @ the gaurd)
2. Burkhead did slow down Martin. T-mart owes him a drink.
Anything under 5.00 is flying for a 300+ pounder. Impressive!
Unfortunately Dontari Poe ran a 4.87 right after him (while weighing 40 more pounds). Mark May and Warren Sapp couldn't stop gushing over him (Poe).
Poe also had a very strong vertical and had 44 reps on the BP.
Edit: I meant Mike Mayock. Mark May would make watching the combine intollerable.
Yeah, but that's because Martin was chasing him.
I remember him forcing the fumble against Sandiego State. I think in addition to both his and Martin's suprising speed, they will be even more lauded for their pursuit(?) angles. Another reason to thank Denard, as well as the coaching staff. Love to see M players succeed.
Worthy ran a 5.03 which is pretty impressive. I was surprised to see he only weighed 4 more lbs than Martin.
muscle is heavier than fat
What weighs more: a pound of muscle or a pound of fat?
Muscle is denser that fat.
Muscle weighs more than fat and it seem like Worthy has a lot more bad weight than Martin.
Not to discredit Martin at all, who is a very good athlete and fast and (more importantly) quick for his size, but it seems like 40 times are much faster than in the past. I know players are better trained for it now and everything, but no one expected RGIII to run a 4.41, or Floyd a 4.47, or Hemingway a 4.5. Maybe the extremely fast time isn't there, but Wilson ran a 4.55 and even Luck, a better athlete then given credit it for, ran an unexpected 4.67. The fact that 6 DEs ran below a 4.7 is insane. Just seems like a fast track this year for some reason.
RG3 is one of the fastest hurdlers in college. I was very surprised to see him run that.
I disagree. I don't think this year is different than others. Everyone knew RGIII was fast. Running a 4.41 isn't unexpected considering his accolades pre-knee injury.
And I don't understand why people are surprised at the times of people like Floyd or Hemingway. Hemingway was a guy that people made out to be so slower than he actually was. 4.5 is a decent time and Hemingway has decent speed.
And Floyd is a big, physical guy, who people don't think of as being fast, again, w/ little reason. The TE's and DE's are freaks these days, so it's not surprising to see big guys with speed.
Technique definitely matters, and there is a difference between game and track speed, but a lot of people just have these inaccurate projections coming in.
Chris Rainey ran a 4.45, who may have looked faster than he is because he's a small guy.
Hemingway does not play football like a 4.5 guy. He's always had a hard time getting separation downfield, and that slant against Indiana in 2010 was almost painful to watch. Yes, he made it all the way to the endzone, but he looked horribly slow in the process.
How was it painful to watch? I just re-watched it and it didn't even look as if he was running 100%. I'm not saying he "plays like a 4.5 guy", but from what people say, it's like he's a 4.8 guy. People make it a foregone conclusion that he doesn't have the athleticism to be effective in the NFL. He's not a burner, but I don't think he's slow, either. And with respect to the 40 yard dash, some guys take time to accelerate, and some guys don't lose their top end speed at the same rate as others. There are other details involved, but I don't think Indy is a fast track or that Junior should be considered slow.
After he breaks the tackle and takes about 10 strides, he looks like an offensive lineman trying to chug his way into the endzone.
Was how well Hemingway did in the 3-cone drill and the shuttle drills, showing that he is quick as well. According to the combine he is quick, has burst, and is fast, which didn't translate to the field. Not sure why, but anyone saying he didn't struggle to get seperation isn't watching the games clearly. Some of it probably had to do with Denard passing, but nonetheless.
Besides just seeming to not play that fast, the best conclusion I'm coming to is that his routes aren't very good. RR's staff wasn't exactly known for teaching good route mechanics, so that may be the case, but I never saw a huge problem in that area either. It seems that he may just be one of those guys. Either way, I hope this improved his draft stock enough to help him out.
I didn't have a problem with the way Rodriguez and his staff coached the kids to run routes, but their routes were so simplistic that I think the offense was a bit predictable. Of course, when you have Denard Robinson, it opens things up a bit (like the play action slant). But Michigan's receivers essentially knew how to run slants, flares, go routes, and hitches...and that's about it.
Maybe because it's how he tends to have his head on the swivel all the time. He's not lowering his head and sprinting on every snap. That tendency is better for running against zone defenses than in man coverages.
We also run a lot of drags. RR's passing offense catered more to the slots, and that's not what Junior is. He's not running a lot of drags, bubble screens, and slants. He's an outside guy, but he doesn't have a pro-style qb with a gun to get him the ball on the outside.
I just think people were tough on Junior. People seemed to love Darryl, but guys like Junior are underappreciated and in the NFL, he could very well be a productive player because of how skilled he is.
Does anyone know if Jeff Demps was at the combine? Rainey is fast, but Demps is the fastest guy in college football. I think he ran a sub 10 sec 100M last year.
Demps ran sub 10 seconds as a sr in high school.
Jerel Worthy ran a 5.03. Psh
That's super cool. Thanks for posting it.
I cant' help but wonder what our own #16's time's going to be next year......
he was actually in the overlayed video took. you missed him? I'm not surprised.
I'm pretty surprised that Luck was that close actually. I think I also heard he outjumped Newton. He's proven to be a much better athlete than I realized. Manning 2.0 indeed.
Any video of Martin running the 40?
...why does everyone refer to combine times as "unoffical". It seems to me that if any time were to be "offical" it would be the combine time..So what does one have to do to get an "offical" time.
They review the tape of the run and figure out what the most accurate time is because there is some inaccuracies associated with the methodology that's used. I believe the NFL starts the run by hand and stops it electronically.
can Martin do the bench again at pro day or is that not a pro day activity?
4.84 is a strong time. Hopefully he performs well in the drills because I was never concerned about his strength or straight line speed, but more with his agility and pass rushing skills.
My thoughts exactly. I was expected something in the 4.7's. I had a guy last year run a 4.74 at 6'5" 310 at his pro day.
Eisen and Sapp were giving Martin mad love just now, specifically singling him out in the drill they are doing now. Link is to the live webcast.
You do know that Eisen is a Michigan grad, right?
I'd insert a "we landed on the moon" gif here if I wasn't too lazy to find one.
They call it unofficial, because the times nfl network are initially given are hand timed, which are usually faster then the later released laser times.
He could have ran a 4.5 if Barwis didn't overtrain him.
This really shows how good of a trainer/strength coach Barwis is
Anyone else notice MM wasn't wearin Adidas?
combine results show Martin beating Jarel Worthy in every event, but coming in way behind him in overall score. http://www.nfl.com/combine/participants What gives?