Mark Snyder Update (Not that Mark Snyder)
I've been talking with Adam Rittenberg this morning about the Mark Snyder rumor. For those that haven't heard, there was a rumor that Mark Snyder has interviewed for the void in the coaching staff left by Jay Hopson.
Rittenberg told me today that Snyder HAS interviewed for the position. He doesn't know much more yet, but should know more later today. One of their guys is at the coaching conference, and is having lunch with Snyder today.
I'll let you know if I hear more.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:31 PM ^
THIS JUST IN: HE'S STILL A DICK.
January 12th, 2010 at 1:12 PM ^
nothing new to report.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:33 PM ^
as always you are a wealth of information.... thanks for the update....
January 12th, 2010 at 12:40 PM ^
Would he be a good fit for this LB coaching position do you think? Any feedback would be appreciated.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:45 PM ^
so sorry for the double post, but here's his bio from Marshall. FWIW, an OSU friend of mine who follows OSU very closely thinks that this would be a great hire for Michigan. Snyder was good enough to be OSU's DC for a year - after Dantonio left - before Snyder went to Marshall.
http://herdzone.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/snyder_mark00.html
January 12th, 2010 at 12:44 PM ^
Who the heck is Mark Snyder? Is he in the NFL or CFB? Does anyone know if this guy is GRob approved or has prior connections with GRob?
January 12th, 2010 at 12:45 PM ^
College Football Coach and he has no connection with Greg Robinson that I have seen.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:48 PM ^
So this IMO would be a GREAT pickup for a LB coach.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:49 PM ^
Most recently he was the HC at Marshall but before that he was i believe linebackers coach at OSU during the A.J Hawk era, according to S. Webb.
January 12th, 2010 at 1:13 PM ^
his last coaching gig was in the WNFL.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:44 PM ^
I looked him up on Wikipedia and he has had some success as a defensive coach @ OSU and Youngstown State.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:45 PM ^
Snyder would be a fantastic addition to the coaching staff. He coached linebackers at UCF, Youngstown State, then was defensive coordinator there when they won their 3 national titles. Snyder was OSU's defensive coordinator for 4 years as well.
Please hire him.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:47 PM ^
Bring this guy in!
January 12th, 2010 at 12:48 PM ^
Hope he sees fit to join the team.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:50 PM ^
Anyone know if he's a good recruiter and what his recruiting base may be? I'm guessing OH since he worked extensively for Tressel, maybe he can help us pry some of those kids from Glenville.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:50 PM ^
That'd be great. UM can hire Snyder and then he can snipe back and forth with Dantonio about who really was the mastermind behind OSU's 2002 defense.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:52 PM ^
and DC in his most recent past. What are the real chances of him signing on as a LB coach.
I am wondering about his age. Perhaps he would be like an assistant DC to gerg with the expectation of taking over after he left. That is totally a hypothesis and nothing based on anything.
Just seems strange that a guy with his history would consider being a position coach is all (at least to me).
January 12th, 2010 at 12:58 PM ^
he was only DC at OSU for one year (not four as Wikipedia says) and he was fired from Marshall, so maybe his stock is fairly low. Again, though, my first reaction was the same as yours.
January 12th, 2010 at 2:20 PM ^
Yeah his stock seems a little low right now. I wouldn't expect him to stay, but he might hang around for a few years, try to develop some big name LBs and get his stock up.
A second option is, he is 45 to Greg's 58. It is possible that Greg might retire relatively soon and Snyder could be promoted from within as a DC.
As for his recruiting ties, they look good for LBs and D-Linemen. Ties to Ohio from his time at Youngstown and tOSU and he was born and raised in Los Angeles. Hopefully he has some times to schools out there and can get in on hijacking a portion of the USC pipeline.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:54 PM ^
Just wish he didn't have the same spelling as that little butthole who writes for a certain rag that shall remain unnamed.
January 12th, 2010 at 2:33 PM ^
Maybe they could:
1) put a clause in his contract that he legally change the spelling and pronunciation of his name or
2) he and the FreeP Snyder have to fight for the name rights in a death match on 8 Mile.
January 12th, 2010 at 12:58 PM ^
I think this would be a good hire and it would create confusion to distract from the other Mark Snyder.
January 12th, 2010 at 1:01 PM ^
I am from Marshall and covered them for 4 years while working in the media. Snyder was not the DC at OSU for 4 years, he was the DC for a single season and it also happened to be one of Tressels worst. Snyder was demoted to co-defensive coordinator mid way through the season.
While at Marshall his teams has no identity and played with little swagger or attitude.
I see no difference in Hopson and Snyder. Both were pretty good LB coaches but should never be more then a position coach.
Snyder was also an average at best recruiter.
This would be an ok pick up. I am sorry but I do not have much confidence is Snyder and from the people I know from OSU, they tell me Tressel pused for him to get the Marshall job because he would have had to demote him back down to LB coach if he would have stayed on that staff.
January 12th, 2010 at 1:09 PM ^
but if he is only on par with Hopson (not saying he is, just sayin') than I don't want him.
I had issues with Hopson both as a coach and supposed superstar recruiter.
I think we need someone that far surpasses him in both areas.....Just MHE.
January 12th, 2010 at 1:19 PM ^
The 2004 OSU defense was very young and got a lot better as the year ended. You could argue that this improvement was partially due to Snyder having a co-defensive coordinator - I have no idea. We can say this, though: the LBs who played under Snyder at OSU played a heck of a lot better than Michigan's LBs did under Hopson.
January 12th, 2010 at 2:01 PM ^
Dude, get it right: "I am Marshall."
January 12th, 2010 at 1:04 PM ^
Positives:
- Coached A.J. Hawk (according to bio), who now sucks in the NFL but was awesome in college (always a good sign)
- Coached LBs at Youngstown State
- Was a DC at tOSU
Negatives:
- Been a while since he's focused solely on LBs
Overall I'll give him 3.5 Beavises out of a possible 5.
January 12th, 2010 at 1:12 PM ^
as much as i hate AJ Hawk, 400 tackles & 5 INT's in 4 seasons while playing for one of the best defenses in the NFL hardly constitutes suckage.
January 12th, 2010 at 1:22 PM ^
Questions:
1) Have you ever watched him play in the NFL and said to yourself "wow, that was a great pick at #5 overall in the draft" or "he looks much better than he did at Ohio State"?
2) Is it good to average 74 solo tackles per season as an NFL MLB, while starting every game?
3) Is it good to make 83 solo tackles your rookie year, but make only 67 in both your third and fourth seasons?
I'll give you the INTs thing - he is at least good in pass coverage. And the change in defensive schemes might be creating some noise in his numbers.
But to say he's been worthy of the #5 overall pick in the draft? Debatable. And it's only debatable because the 2006 first round draft class has been so agonizingly bad.
January 12th, 2010 at 2:09 PM ^
I was listening to the Packers beat writer on the radio yesterday and they without a doubt think he is approaching bust status. Supposedly, they sat him down early this season and had a come to Jesus meeting with him and even then he showed only minimal improvement.
January 12th, 2010 at 4:01 PM ^
Hawk's status as a bust doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Snyder's coaching ability. There are countless players who are disappointments in the NFL but where spectacular college players (see who's who of Heisman trophy winners). When you're taken top 5 you're expected to be the second coming of Mike Singletary; when you end up a Chris Spielman then people are disappointed.
The fact that Hawk went from 3 star recruit to top 5 pick has a lot to do with his development as a player at Ohio State. Bobby Carpenter (first round pick in 2005) was another guy Snyder had a lil' something to do with.
January 12th, 2010 at 4:33 PM ^
What exactly are you trying to say here? Your first sentence and your second paragraph seem to completely contradict one another.
Also, how many of those Heisman trophy winners were taken in the top 5? I believe a majority of those failures were labeled as "well, he played in a good system in college but it doesn't translate to the pros" which doesn't merit a top 5 draft pick. It's also changed how a lot of people have voted for a Heisman candidate (from "just stats" to "stats plus team record").
January 12th, 2010 at 8:14 PM ^
I don't know what contradiction you see. First paragraph: being a disappointment as a top 5 pick in the NFL draft says nothing about the coaching you received in college. Second Paragraph: Snyder took a 3 star recruit and helped him become a top 5 pick. He also took another player and helped him become a 1st round draft pick.
The Heisman point wasn't so much about how Heisman players do in the NFL more so than to say there are a lot of guys who have great college careers that don't at least live up to expectations in the pros. In this case I'm using the trophy as a fairly safe filter for "great college player". Regardless, as to your question,off the top of my head I can think of Reggie Bush, Ricky Williams, Charles Woodson, Desmond Howard, Tom Harmon Barry Sanders, and Herschel Walker (technically).
Further research yields the following list since Spurrier):
Reggie Bush
Carson Palmer
Ricky Williams
Charles Woodson
Desmond Howard
Barry Sanders
Vinny Testaverde
Bo Jackson (played baseball instead)
Mike Rozier
George Rogers
Billy Sims
Earl Campbell
Tony Dorsett
Jim Plunkett
O.J. Simpson
Steve Spurrier
How many of those guys warranted careers worthy of a top 5 draft position (lets say 3 or more pro bowls)? I'd say Woodson, Sanders, Sims, Campbell, Dorsett (?), Simpson.
As far as linebackers drafted in the top 5 go, Hawk would have to pan out like LaVar Arrington, Junior Seau, Derrick Thomas, or Cornelius Bennett. Lawrence Taylor also qualifies but that's just absurd.
January 12th, 2010 at 9:41 PM ^
I think Beavis is confused because you're not disagreeing with him--Hawk as a NFL bust was listed as a positive in Beavis's list: he's arguing that it speaks well of his college coaching that he performed at his best there.
January 12th, 2010 at 2:15 PM ^
we're not hiring him as DC or HC, so I'm not concerned about his failures there. this guy coached up a couple All-American LBs at Ohio State and a couple all-Big Ten DEs at Minnesota. however, we need more than one recruiter (Gibson) on the defensive side of the ball. Robinson and Tall are not good recruiters.
January 12th, 2010 at 2:27 PM ^
Well to a degree if he produces NFL Talent, he recruits well. If he works on LBs and DEs and produces a steady stream of 1st round picks (al la Harris, Woodley, Graham) all he has to do to recruit is show up, hand the recruit a print out of LBs taken in Round 1 of the draft, their salary and move along.
If as people are saying he was a bit of a bust a DC and HC that means he's less likely to get hired away from us as a DC/HC. So if he can set up a pipeline of 1st Round picks his ability to recruit is somewhat moot.
January 12th, 2010 at 2:28 PM ^
After watching the train wrecked cluster fcuk that was the linebacking development under Jay Hopson this Mark Snyder can only be an upgrade.
January 12th, 2010 at 4:06 PM ^
Mark Snyder has recruited and produced a single NFL player while at Marshall(Doug Legurski). Cody Slate might be the second but he tore his knee up pretty good so we will see.
IMO after covering him for 4 years he is nothing more then an average coach.
While Hopson was at Marshall, he put more LB's in the NFL then Snyder:P