Sign him up, Coach!
Mario Ojemudia's Tweet
There has been specualtion that he may try and visit Ann Arbor this upcoming weekend but it's not set in stone.
So if he were to visit and potentially commit, this would be different big news than the big news Barnett was predicting for this weekend? Therefore giving me way too many things to anticipate?
i wouldnt be so sure about this one... the words he initially used after his visit were not palatable, and he seemed to be a hater, or grew up one. this is sometimes hard to overcome. hope im wrong, but all i am saying is it could go the other way here.
These words after his first visit?
We went to practice and talked to Coach Jackson and saw all the coaches. I had a long talk with Coach Hoke, too. He basically talked about what Michigan has to offer and the tradition there. I liked the visit more than I thought I would. I liked it more because of the coaches, they're just really easy to talk and get a long with. I didn't expect all that. We were all just talking about life a lot, especially with Coach Jackson.
. . . Watching practice I liked how it was ran. Everyone was hustling and it was 100%. I was basically trying to watch the ends and outside linebackers. After that Coach Singletary took me around by myself and gave me a tour. He was just telling me how Michigan is different.
So the guy didn't grow up a Michigan fan. Who gives a shit? Farmington Hills is full of Sparty fans, and FHH has been an MSU pipeline for years. Being a 14-year-old rooting for the same team as everyone around you doesn't make you a hater.
Calling a teenager a hater, however, does make YOU a hater.
I was not a fan of the comment... "I liked the visit more than I thought I would"....and recall Marcus Hall or someone similar say that. Thats all. And to you monsieur, in the kind words of the Queen.... piss off
What's wrong with that? When a kid says that, it sounds like the visit made a favorable impression on him.
My wife cooks new food sometimes. I'm occasionally sceptical, but often I will tell her afterward "Honey, I didn't think I would like this because of the eggplant, but I really liked it." And what do you think her response usually is?
a) "Thanks, glad you hear you liked it," or
b) "FUCK YOU for not thinking you would like it. Why would you not think you would like it? You should know ahead of time that you will like it. I'm never making it again, prick."
"But honey, I grew up not liking eggplant, and no one around me growing up liked eggplant, so..."
"TOUGH SHIT, jackass. You should have known that some day you might be presented with the chance to eat eggplant, and you should have gotten your head right THEN."
"Don't I get any credit for trying it even when I didn't think I would like it, and then for liking it?"
"NO. The time to decide you liked it was BEFORE you tried it. Anyone can like it AFTER they try it. It's eggplant. It's fucking delicious. You're sleeping on the couch."
Your wife sounds like mine. Is she hispanic?
cannot pronounce his name he must be good and I want him
Two potential nicknames:
The cliche Super Mario
OJ- Mario Ojemudia kills when he is on the field, would be ironic if he wore gloves that didn't fit!
it would not be ironic, it would be appropriate to his nickname. from the dictionary:
"The essential feature of irony is the indirect presentation of a contradiction"
how many people confuse irony for coincidence.
You could also just learn how to pronounce his name
He also could be talking about studying for his exam, which he's been putting off for several hours and now kind of needs to buckle down and do.
It's Twitter, man. Twitter's Razor: The most innane explanation is probably the correct one.
Uh huh ..lets see you explain that one Mr Smarty Pants
I really hope we land this guy. I always love to see Harrison folks go blue, and commitments from 2+ of their 3 'star' players would be great for recruiting there in the future. Listen to Devin Mario!
Getting 2 of 3 would be great especially since sparty thought that they would get all 3.
and getting close to a full class is going to make for a quiet summer. Good problem to have.
To give all of our attention to guys like Noah Spence...
It'll help us land a couple of 5*s, no doubt.
a cry for help
Sources on Rivals ITF message board are saying Mario is "a done deal" for blue FWIW.
Isnt that source just one random poster on the board?
Chris Balas agreed on the source. Take it FWIW.
Nice. I did not see that, just the random poster. CB normally has pretty good info.
Maybe I was looking in a different thread there. But the one that I saw saying it was a Done Deal just said that Chris would confirm it. But I haven't seen Chris post in that topic and agree or back anything up.
I'm looking on Rivals now, and Balas hasn't posted a word about Ojemudia in the past 2 days. Where do you see this?
It's a thread called "keep it here."
It's also in an ITF: Extra.
I don't have the long form certificate.
The ITF Extra says no such thing, and the search reveals no thread called "keep it here."
It is on page 6 right now. It is titled "Keep it here..."
There is a ITF: Extra as well written by Helmholdt that says Mario has Michigan #1.
I am wondering if you honestly believe I am making all of this up. Pretty specific for a ruse don't you think?
The ITF thread doesn't say Michigan is #1. It says the Ojemudia said he'll commit "soon", and Michigan is a leader.
I now see the thread you're referring to, but I see NO reply from Balas.
So what on earth are you talking about?
Does #1 and "leader" not mean the same thing?
Also, have you read through the comments?
There is a comment that says Balas can confirm the source.
You're skewing their words, dude. Saying that Ojemudia MAY favor Michigan because of Funchess isn't the same as announcing that he's a done deal.
Further, a guy saying "Balas can confirm the source" is NOT the same as Balas actually confirming the source, unless you have no reading comprehension whatsoever.
If you read through this thread, you, single-handedly, have given everyone, including Tom, the impression that Rivals is blabbing Ojemudia's private business, which just isn't the case.
Why can't you just admit that?
I think you may have some personal issue with me that you need to come to terms with.
The ITF: Extra says that Ojemudia has Michigan as his leader.
The post "Keep it here..." says that Ojemudia is a done deal for Michigan and that Chris Balas can confrim the sources from the original poster.
I am certain that is what I wrote here. Just trying to relay the information I got from Rivals. I will admit to doing just that for people here who don't have a Rivals page. I am sure that is appreciated by most here. Sorry you have some tension built up in the shoulders about my commenting here, but maybe you should take a few minutes to cool off. Funny it was you who called me Holden Caulfield at one point.
I have no problem with you.
But this, which you wrote, is patently false:
"Chris Balas agreed on the source. Take it FWIW."
The original poster did write that and that is what I wrote here.
I can read. You wrote that I couldn't, which is patently false.
Then you can't understand. A Rivals poster saying "Balas can confirm my source" is not the same as Balas confirming the source.
Which is what you wrote.
Why can't you understand that?
FWIW, I'm not the one down-voting you.
Please edit your comment about me not being able to read. It is patently false. That is what we're arguing about here, correct? I really can't tolerate when things are written wrong and turn out to be patently false. It makes me go on a commenting tirade and then write things that are patently false about other commenters. It's my nature. I'm insane.
Also Hemholdt obviously agreed on the source or he wouldn't have written an ITF: Extra about it. Think about it.
Why don't you address my question rather than writing an entire paragraph to mock me.
You read a guy saying "Balas can confirm my source", and then wrote "Balas confirmed the source." Those aren't the same.
The ITF post of Helmholdt's doesn't source anything - it speculates that Funchess has swayed him.
Please do me a personal favor and don't respond to anything I write here. I was trying to relay info I got from Rivals and you make me look like some sort of asshole for doing so and then claim I am unable to read. If you have some personal hatred of me for whatever reason then please put a cap on it and don't bring it up again. I never respond to your comments. Please do the same for mine. You have attempted to drive me away form this site in the past and now after I have been gone for months and post a one liner about how rivals agreed with the original post here you have something to write about how I am stupid and can't understand and can't read. My bad, man. I was trying to relay info about Michigan football I saw on Rivals pay site and relay it to the readers here in my own words like Brian has asked us to do. My bad, man. You're right. You should feel proud.
I've never done a thing with the intent of driving you off. If you think I have, then you have a bit of a persecution complex. Disagreeing with you, or thinking your wrong is something that will happen from time to time. You're free to keep commenting here - if you say something that looks simply wrong, or something I really disagree with, I'm going to respong, that's the nature of this place. Sorry.
I first replied to you merely because I suscribe to Rivals, and didn't see the Balas confirmation you spoke of - and I wanted to find where it was. Upon asking you about it, it became that it didn't exist.
Like I wrote before: please don't respond to anything I write here ever again and furthermore try not to personally attack me in the process. Thanks.
what the significance of your avatar is?
but i would also like to say "butts"
Yes, butts here too.
But is it cool if our boyfriends respond to you in the process?
Why don't you just pack up and leave again? Things have been much better around here the past month or so.
Here's the thread but Balas didn't respond in it that I see
I like the guys whose names I can't pronounce. It means they're good.
So which is he? A DT, OLB, or DE? Scout doesn't seem to sure about his position. I see him as a DE, but that's me.
Michigan's recruiting him as a rush end
I think Mario, T. Richardson, Wormley, Godin, R. Thompson, Day, Diamond, and Gunner should just all just make their lives easier and get it over with...
I like the way you think.
I don't understand why everyone keeps throwing Gunner Keil's name around like we have a good chance for him. I want a 5* qb in this class as much as everyone else, but all we know is that he was a strong ND lean, he visited us last week, but hadn't been interviewed or given any favorable comments about Michigan since. I think we will get all of the other guys you listed, so I am happy with that. I just think qb is going to have to be addressed with Shane Morris next year.
and note that we will be fine, with Bellomy, too. Don't forget about this kid.... unless you want to be very pleasantly surprised... I liked Bellomy's film more than Pike's FWIW.
...right? Heard he was OSU fan growing up?
Being a fan means nothing. These kids are making life decisions, and right now coming to UM is the right life decision.
I have a gut feeling he is going blue.
I find it strange that Scout has him as a DT. At 220, I think just about everyone projects him as either a DE or OLB. For us, clearly DE.
Is anyone recruiting this kid as a DT?
Just the position he was playing last year for his HS team. He is a "tweener" will be playing as a smaller rush end or a possible LB.
Scout aims to project what he will play in college. Not what he played in HS.
I would wager they did not put much effort yet to projecting him to next level this early in the process. A tweener rush end/LB does not take much effort to project that he will not be a DT. Since it is so early In the ranking process and he is not in the very top end of prospects I would imagine they will change accordingly in the coming months.
I like it. I picture him at Sparty's spring game all like "well f this, these people have no class, I am way underwhelmed after seeing Michigan.". Then he decides that no school can compare to UM and he's wasting his time looking and figures he should just commit already.
If we keep getting recruits at this pace, they can all hang out this summer and become friends. MEGA CLASS = SUPERBESTFRIENDS!
"we're the 16-19depndingonattrition best friiiends, that anybody could haaave,
we're the 16-19 best friiiends that anybody could have".
And we're never ever ever ever going to leave each other.
Yes this. How's Boulder?
Pretty wonderful. Weather is going to be fantastic this week. I'm thinking of doing some scouting and video work at the Denver Mullen games this upcoming season. Try and bring the MGoCreeper Van to CO.
Tis the season to cyber stalk 17 year olds and speculate.
players if you can get the best from all over, but there is a lot to be said for the power game we are asserting now, sweeping in (from appearances) and taking every damned body in Michigan. It will be fun to beat the tar out of MSU one day soon with a team loaded with local four and five-stars.
By the same token, it must really suck to be Dantonio.
There are a lot of talented players coming out next year in Michigan so it stands to reason that Hoke and co. would scoop the cream from the top.
couldn't match this in-state haul if Ojemudia, Richardson, Thompson, and Godin drop. Not to mention there is still time to try to flip Burbridge and O'Brien.
What's important is that MSU does not have the national recruiting power we posess. If we take the instate kids, as opposed to focusing on Florida kids, we are taking kids away from MSU, and they won't be able to go out of the midwest to make up for it. MSU should not be able to compete on the field with UM, ND, and OSU. Unless of course UM, ND, and OSU decide to ignore local recruits.
If only it were that easy.
How do you think MSU got to where they are. 3 years of not having UM take all the best players in state is how. It is the exact same thing that happened to basketball 15 years ago. If Hoke can keep this up in 3-5 years MSU will be right back t the Bobby William/Jon L Smith era.
michman28; that's not how MSU got to where they are. Top tier talent like Gholston has only had a year to make an impact and Thomas hasn't even played his 1st college game yet.
MSU's roster is dominated by players from Michigan and Ohio. Most were not superstar recruits, but still, the more schools they have to fend off in those two states, the harder it will be for them to succeed.
...so this is my first post, but I read this daily. Can someone with more knowledge tell me if we are to take 2-3 DE's in this class, how does Mario compare to others who are interested in Michigan: A. Washington, C. Wormley, N. Spence, P. Brown, S. Pittman. The others seem to have more favorable size for a DE.
Not an expert at all but my understanding is that UM has a good chance with Brown and Wormley but the others are long shots. I had always thought 2 DEs was the likely target. While Mario is more slight than the other two (and I think Wormley is bigger than Brown), Mario has big potential. You always make room for Wormley but with zero DEs committed right now, I think you happily take a verbal from Mario if he wants to come. The real question for me is how this would affect Brown. I don't think it has a big effect on Wormley since he likely has a spot if he wants to come.
Thanks for your response, very helpful. Like you, would gladly take Mario - big potential, in-state kid, snatched away from MSU. On Wormley though, I am reading things differently - I think we are losing traction there - just my gut. I really like Pharoah and Adolphus (not just because of their names). While Pharoah seems to be higher on Michigan, Washington is getting more and more interested. Plus, the tie-in to Stamford is really key - landing both of them would be huge!
There are many highly rated uncommitted prospects that have interest in Michigan. I think we have to take someone like MO because it seems like he has good upside.
I really like the Washington and Stanford duo, but I think we have some work to do to catch up to osu. I think we are finally even now for Wormley after losing our lead. Brown is a really interesting prospect because he can play some TE as well.
If it were to affect anyone it would be Brown, who seems to have UM as his leader. Brown like Mario is underdeveloped and would take a redshirt year and probably another season to add the necessary weight for the position. Brown is 6'6" or 6'5" but also plays quarterback and is a bit skinny. Meanwhile, Mario is at this point a "tweener" between the LB and Rush End position. Personally, I feel Brown has a higher upside.
As far as Wormley he is a man child already at the necessary size to play the position. If we were to accept these two and pass on Wormley that would be a monster mistake. Personally I think we will take 3 DE's this year. Someone like Wormley can go anywhere he wants so I don't think either of these recruits will affect his decision much.
You're leaving out Godin. He's being recruited to play strongside DE just like Wormley.
While he is playing the 5-tech end position everyone projects his scholarship as a DT it seems. Don't know if its his versatitly to possibly move inside to the 3-tech or just the different terms for the Strongside DE. I was just using it as a DT scholarship. Also, Wormley is talented enough to play either end position.
This could be the reason TomVH informed us that UM is being wierd with the DT scholarships. It seems we pulled O'Briens scholarship at this point and others. Sitting so favorably with DE's and a few DT's (Pipkens/Day) with the limited scholarships. When TomVH broke this news my impression of DL recruiting all but blew up so I really have no idea whats going on anymore.
We are definitely in pretty good with Brown and Wormley, and yes, Noah Spence is still a long shot, however, I wouldn't exactly call Washington and Pittman longshots. With the troubles going on at OSU, Michigan has been making major plays on both of those kids. Pittman has already visited us and Washington will be visiting soon. From what I've read we're in the top five for both kids and I wouldn't say that makes them longshots. Being in the top 5 for any kid never makes them a longshot unless they're considered a lock for somewhere else, which is not the case here.
So if we get a DE to commit would this start a chain reaction like it did with the LB recruits? We have a ton of offers out to really good DE's most of which are in the area (Wormley, Pittman, Washington, Ojemudia, Brown, Strobel, ect . . ) It wil be interesting to see how this plays out if he does in fact commit.
Hopefully Wormley pulls the trigger!!!!!!!!!!!
Noah Spence? He should be on that list.
A couple of sources from Rivals calling MO to Michigan a done deal. Spartan sources from their Rivals site confirm they are hearing the same info.
from these sources. Here's to Mattison and Hoke and the positive Michigan recruiting momemtum.
this means he goes Blue because our knowledge is better than their knowledge...amIright?
As was previously stated about how many DE's we are taking as opposed to DT's I think that 2 DE"s and 3 DT's is most likely considering our current lack of DT's.
With Godins supposed impending commitment does anyone know what position he will play? He seems like a likely replacement for RVB who plays Stong Side End this year?? In our new defense isnt this position called the 5 technique????
be something along the lines of
2 DT: Let's just say Day and Pipkins
2 SDE/DT: Let's say Godin and Wormley
2 WDE: Brown and Ojumedia
If there's enough attrition I think you can fit in all 6 guys but I think this breakdown fills the most needs and allows the flexibility of Godin and Wormley if they eventualy outgrow SDE to slide inside and play DT.
And I believe that you are correct that Godin slides in as a replacement for RVB at SDE
great DL class. I love Brown's film that I have seen. A RS and 20/30 pounds, the sky is the limit for him. That doesn't even include any of the "longshots" that we still have chances with.
I really wish we could take a full 25 this year.
It's there, he wasn't imaging it, and yes, it deserves the banhammer. Nip these things in the bud.
A couple of sources from Rivals calling MO to Michigan a done deal. Spartan sources from their Rivals site confirm they are hearing the same info.
Edit: O/K do you have a link to the above or what ?
I guess I'm confused why these sites keep feeling the need to ruin it for these kids. It happened with James Ross and a few others that have slipped my mind right now.
I was told where he's going yesterday, it doesn't mean I need to share it. I just don't get it, I guess.
is that those people might be bitter they didn't get the scoop or something like that. Maybe a need for attention too.
Either way, I appreciate how you can tell us something is happening without ruining who it is. It makes for the excitement we desire, while letting the kid get his moment. Thanks for that.
I'm not looking for praise through my comment, I just think this has become more about the writers than the recruits. That's not the reason we're here.
It should always come from the recruit first. Frustrating that this keeps happening.
Having heard that he's made his decision, do you have any sense for when he's going to announce? Will be much more meaningful to hear it from him than from bitter posters on MSU message boards.
Probably within the month. He obviously hasn't set anything, but I think it could happen pretty soon.
come from the recruit first, but with this continuing to happen wouldn't you think by now the recruits would stop telling people what their intentions are?
It's pretty simple Tom. They have to show their memebers why they pay $100 a year. You don't have to do that here and that's makes this place better. It's not one big frickin war to see who can get the scoop. In the future, you treating these guys the way you do will pay off. Sooner or later these Rivals and Scout guys won't be getting the info and then will be out of business.
If it makes you feel better, Rivals hasn't said a word. His Dudeness can't read.
You are insane.
...thus meaning they're right and his IS going to Michigan?
That's exactly what I got out of the comment. MO = Blue.
I think in this day and age with Twitter, Facebook and other football message boards something is bound to come out about a recruits decision whether it be mario or any other top recruit. I do agree you RBWolverine, it should come from the recruit first.
It's one thing if a fan shares it, but if a Mod on a site is ruining it then that's different to some degree.
To clarify Tom, no mod from TheWolverine said anything like that. Helmholdt had an update saying that Michigan may be pulling away from the pack of suitors. Nothing definitive. The done deal stuff is coming from well connected posters, not Mods.
So Tom, Did Danny Obrien's offer get pulled??? I saw this from another poster.
I can speak for everyone, but most of us, inclusive of me, appreciate what you say and they way you say things & do your business. Not only us but the kids you speak to also and post about later.
I wholeheartedly agree that the kids should be the ones to let everyone know where they intend to go to school. Tom the way you handle the inside info you get is very classy. I wish the same could be said for others. You give us a heads up without trying to steal the kid's moment and that is one reason I prefer this forum over any of the others. Thank you sir and keep up the good work it is much appreciated by all of us.
I think Michigan has a great chance at having an outstanding DE class. It seems there's a lot more talent than usual, especially in the Midwest. ie. If these guys want to stay in the region and go to a national football power their options are Michigan, Notre Dame & Ohio State. ND took 3 top top rated guys last year and OSU has limited numbers this year. (I'll say now I have no idea where anyone is going) For fun let's say
Ohio State takes 3 - say Ifeadi Odenigbo, Greg McMullen & LaTroy Lewis
Notre Dame takes 3- Tom Strobel, Se'Von Pittman, Adolphus Washington
Michigan then could choose from Matt Godin, Mario Ojemudia, Chris Wormley & Pharoah Brown.
I'd normally say Penn State could come in an pick off one or 2 since they are the next closest power. However PSU already has a DE commitment from Michael Moore, and I imagine they'll be in on both Sean Spence and Darius Hamilton.
Obviously any of these players could choose one of these other teams or another program not listed. I sure hope these guys don't go out of conference, especially to the SEC. I prefer top level recruits to stay in the region to provide competition to make Michigan better and to strengthen the conference as a whole.
I don't know how many DE's any of these schools are gonna take but there is a lot of talent available. I think we're all gonna be pleased with our DE recruiting next February. It's gonna be interesting nonetheless.
I think we have a chance here.
but I saw some front page item on Scout about a "silent verbal" he supposedly has given to an unnamed B12 school. Since he's in KC it would hardly surprise me if he ends up at OK or TX. I just hope we don't end up facing him when we play Nebraska.
I check Mgoblog for your updates. I like what Brian does on this site and I really like the fact that I have to guess what is going on by your updates. Sure, I get all jazzed up when you say we have big news coming soon. It's like Christmas being a week away. I also know that Christmas is a week away for that recruit and he wants to be the one to hand us the present when he wants to. It happens to be his moment, no Rivals'. You get a lot of respect around here for doing things the right way. It isn't the information you share, but the integrity you use in sharing it.
The kid has what it takes. Needs to put some more weight on but he is a beast.
It appears as though Ojemudia has caught wind of the speculation.
The tweet before that: "Damn, I can't remember who I told what anymore"
MO: to my fans-thank you for all the attention and wanting me to play for your school. However, because of my Awesome Ray of Death stare, I have decided to forgo my football career and take my talents to join Professor Charles Xavier in his battle against Magneto to keep the world safe for humankind.
His picture couldn't be any more awesome. We have to land this kid now.
this would have sealed it
I hope he commits and this is in the Hello: post
I'm an MSU fan and I check this site for recruiting info every so often. FWIW, the Ojemudia news didn't leak through a Mod or a writer ... It came from message board posters who are close to people in the know at FHH. As far as I know, nobody "official" from the major recruiting sites has chimed in on the situation.
This is my two cents on this situation, FWIW. Mario, Devin Funchess, and Aaron Burbridge will be visiting this weekend. Since all this "news" about Mario is out there now, I'll say this, I don't know when Mario is going to make his decision within this month, but I wouldn't be totally surprised if it happened this weekend. I'M NOT SAYING IT IS HAPPENING, please make sure you read that I'm not saying it's happening. I'm not sure when he'll announce yet. I think the Michigan State coaches will probably try their hardest to delay it, or try to convince him how much they want him.
I will also say that anyone that says Aaron Burbridge is an MSU lock doesn't know what they're talking about. I was told quite a bit this weekend about Mario and Aaron, and if Mario chooses Michigan then there's a chance Aaron would follow. He does have grade issues, but I don't think it's bad enough to where Michigan wouldn't take him and hope he makes it. I don't want to say too much, obviously, but there's a chance Michigan could steal those two from MSU.
I wholeheartedly endorse the idea of this happening. It'd be wonderful if MO did commit this weekend, and Dunn and Burbridge were inspired to impulsively follow suit. No, but realistically you can't ask for a better visit atmosphere, especially if they'll be touring things together. They'll see everything through Mario's eyes, and he's clearly very impressed with M which can only help to improve the impressions that the other two take away (not that it seems like M needs help making a good impression).