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December 26th, 2017 at 9:38 PM
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Marcus Ray leaving WTKA
Marcus [email protected]_Ray29 Ive decided to drop the mic & relieve myself of my duties on the @The_MZone & #RaysofLight segment with @SamWebb77 on @michiganinsider. I appreciate the platform & opportunity. I’ll still be on tv/calling games in 2018 #SuckaSeason #RayRocTop25 #BrothaLove #HookItUp #Northside https://twitter.com/marcus_ray29/status/945815844336164864
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December 26th, 2017 at 9:41 PM
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well, bye

well, bye

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December 27th, 2017 at 12:11 AM
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December 27th, 2017 at 12:10 PM
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I didn't like Marcus Ray but

I didn't like Marcus Ray but if his presence cuts down on how many times I have to hear Jamie Morris say "I mean", I'd rather Marcus just stay in the show.

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December 26th, 2017 at 9:42 PM
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#TooMany #Hashtags and

#TooMany #Hashtags and @symbols #MakeShit @Totally #Unreadable

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:47 PM
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Sorry Gramps

Sorry Gramps

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December 27th, 2017 at 11:02 AM
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But I read your comment just fine.

But I read your comment just fine. #ClevernessFail

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December 27th, 2017 at 1:02 PM
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Agree 100%

One of your best posts.  

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December 26th, 2017 at 9:44 PM
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#inside #baseball #hashtags

#inside #baseball #hashtags #dontunderstand

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December 26th, 2017 at 9:44 PM
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This means I can

start listening again. A Boxing Day Miracle!

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December 26th, 2017 at 9:45 PM
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liked his stories his

liked his stories
his analysis, however...

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December 27th, 2017 at 6:50 AM
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I Think Marcus Is...

...a poor man's Steven A. Smith. 

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December 26th, 2017 at 9:45 PM
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Butch Jones is a better

Butch Jones is a better analyst than Marcus.

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December 26th, 2017 at 9:46 PM
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Good...

He's a Jackass

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December 26th, 2017 at 9:49 PM
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Marcus was pretty negative at

Marcus was pretty negative at a time when things had to be considered as on the rise. He can say what he wants to say but he seemed to have a personal problem with the current coaching staff. I stopped listening to the Mzone months ago because the act got old quick.

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:44 PM
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He sounded like he was always

in a bad mood.

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December 27th, 2017 at 5:54 AM
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Mr. Dead Air. He will not be

Mr. Dead Air. He will not be missed. It seemed like he never did any preparation and Jamie had to try to carry the show. I wonder whose decision it really was for him to leave.

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December 27th, 2017 at 11:21 AM
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You said it yourself. He was

You said it yourself. He was making free money on that show. No way he would leave on his own. The way Ray was trashing the staff this year, I wouldn't be surprised if Harbaugh finally got him blown out of there.

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December 27th, 2017 at 1:10 PM
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It wasn't just the negativity

that annoyed me.  The worst thing is every so often he would denigrate the value of getting a degree, basically saying athletes should take the money as soon as they could, and how a degree wasn't necessary to make a lot of money in the "real world".  Although he may have been technically correct, it's a bad message to broadcast all the way around.  Most ex-athletes can't or won't have any opportunities to work in broadcasting, coaching, or other sports-related field after their playing days are over.  And even if they did, a degree certainly will help I would think.  

Aside from that, Ray didn't exactly further his career opportunities in the broadcasting area (IMO) during his stint at WTKA.  Most of the time, he sounded bored, unmotivated, unprepared, and not wanting to be there.  I doubt any networks executives looking for talent would be very impressed if they listened to his tapes.  

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December 26th, 2017 at 9:49 PM
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...

I wonder what Charles Woodson thinks about this. For those who don't know, Marcus played with Charles Woodson.

 

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December 26th, 2017 at 9:55 PM
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You don’t say!

You don’t say!

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December 26th, 2017 at 9:56 PM
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I did not realize that.

I did not realize that. Marcus never mentioned it.

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December 26th, 2017 at 9:56 PM
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Were you aware?

That Marcus still talks to Charles?

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:09 PM
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Ha, he says Charles is his

Ha, he says Charles is his best friend but I've never seen/heard Charles say it in return.

Probably because he would be a terrible best friend to have.

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:23 PM
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He was always too negative

He was always too negative about the team.  He seemed to forgot that his teams  was average before the championship.

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December 27th, 2017 at 7:35 AM
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champs

Marcus is so annoying that he sometimes makes me wish that the '97 team had lost a couple of games.

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:06 PM
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Wait

are you saying Marcus Ray and Charles Woodson played on the same team? Huh.. thats crazy!

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December 26th, 2017 at 9:59 PM
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Marcus is a guy I always

Marcus is a guy I always wanted to like. He seems like a really good human being overall but he provides virtually zero useful information or substance. It's as if he tries too hard to have a dissenting opinion from the majority, especially when the majority opinion is a positive one. Then he acts like an asshole to anyone who argues with him.

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:53 PM
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He is really nice.

I met him at a car dealership that he worked with. He was really cool. But he became unlistenable.

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December 27th, 2017 at 9:05 AM
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Hey, works for Mike Valenti,

Hey, works for Mike Valenti, right?

#richardradio, #angrydudewithnegativityradiatingfromhisspores, #chiponshoulder, #sizematters

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December 27th, 2017 at 9:23 AM
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This sentence

Pretty much wraps up sports journalism as a whole. Dissent for the sake of argument and/or clicks.

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December 27th, 2017 at 2:16 PM
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Careful now. That contrarian attitude is what pushed a Columbus kid to come play for Michigan!

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:02 PM
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Did he really say "relieve

Did he really say "relieve myself"?

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:10 PM
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I mean, I just relieved

I mean, I just relieved myself but it wasn’t from a radio show

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:05 PM
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He is not good and listening

He is not good and listening to him its like listening to a random fan spewing random crap. I have a hard time listening to him especially when he goes off tangent and talks about random shit. Nice guy but not a radio person.

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:10 PM
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Like listening to a fan

Like listening to a fan spewing random crap, who then drops the "well I played here so my opinion automatically trumps your opinion" card whenever someone calls him out or argues with him.

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:12 PM
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Also seemed to overplay his

Also seemed to overplay his relationship with Woodson

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:46 PM
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Loved Talking

About that '97 team, like no other team did things like they did - like they didn't have the GOAT making Ray look good.

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:44 PM
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Brian Griese

was starting QB, wasn't he, with GOAT Brady as backup?

Marcus was award winning safety in 97, can't take that away.

Interestingly Brady was the DL coach of that squad... CFB has changed in the intervening 20 years but these guys got what they got.

 

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December 27th, 2017 at 12:35 AM
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GOAT

=

Woodson

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:24 PM
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I agree

I attended a um alumni event at UM flint during the coaching search (between thanksgiving and Christmas because we had already fired Hoke) and he said we should look for Nick Saban to be a name to come to Michigan. I knew then he was full of it.

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:09 PM
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Lol

Was he serious ?!

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December 27th, 2017 at 1:58 AM
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Yes. I can corroborate this.

Yes. I can corroborate this. I heard him say this on the radio. He even said something like "everyone will think I'm crazy but I have heard from good sources that he'd take the job." Pretty much chatsports level credibility right there.

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:09 PM
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I swear he would zone out

I swear he would zone out while on air. JMo would say something and there would be repeated silence. Was cringe worthy at times. Did not really show that he cared about the quality of the product IMO.

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:29 PM
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MZone

not really that good

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December 27th, 2017 at 12:28 AM
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Not that good?

May be understatement of the year...

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December 27th, 2017 at 1:14 PM
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I'm sure JMo is a very happy man today

He doesn't have to drag around M-Ray for several hours every day on-air and put up with his negativity.  JMo isn't the best talk show host either, but at least he's positive much of the time and attempts to fill up the air with something of value.  

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:11 PM
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Not Surprised

He seemed to have checked out from the MZone some time ago. Always enjoyed him more on Rays of Light in the morning. His chemistry with Sam was markedly better.

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:12 PM
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Replacement?

...question is, who will be his replacement?

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:17 PM
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Jim Rome

Jim Rome

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:18 PM
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Braylon Edwards

Braylon Edwards

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:36 PM
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Amani Toomer?

Too soon?

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:11 PM
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Pete

Finebaum.

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:51 PM
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I hear

a ham sandwich is available.

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December 27th, 2017 at 12:07 PM
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I like Jon Jansen on the

I like Jon Jansen on the broadcast. Also Ira is great with Sam but isn’t necessary for the morning show, I’d love a radio pro on the afternoons.

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December 27th, 2017 at 2:30 PM
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On the subject of Sam, whom I hear more that I'm listening to his podcast segments, I love his insider knowledge and his guests and his demeanor, but, man, Sam is a guy who...who....who, Sam is a guy who...needs to uh, needs to...needs to get to his point sometimes. I mean, there is measuring your words and all, but good God man you're on the radio! Spit it out!

 

 

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December 27th, 2017 at 11:58 AM
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Once he got that Mzone show,

Once he got that Mzone show, he became arrogant. He was a lot better when he was humble. You could tell when he started making actual money again. His entire demeanor changed.

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:29 PM
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I think he's going to be

next DB coach for Harbaugh

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:32 PM
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Interesting development

Marcus is extremely articulate, intelligent and when he wants to be, a charming on-air personality.  Quite a few times this fall he hasn't wanted to be... he was openly disdainful of both Harbaugh and Don Brown, and I never understood why.  It seemed somehow personal.  He carried out his attacks into trolling territory with abandon, unafraid of saying things that flat out made no sense.  Callers trying to curry favor with his moods, which changed regularly, were more painful to listen to than anything Marcus said.  He did try to temper his criticisms with some perspective at times, perhaps as a reaction to some of these callers.

Towards the end of the season, I had the feeling someone at WTKA talked to him because he did a complete turnaround with Brother Love, who was not only more fun to listen to, the underlying satirical quality caught me off guard and I started laughing while in rush hour traffic. 

I was actually looking forward to the 2018 season with Brother Love, so I hope he continues to call in for his Rays of Light segment on Sam's show.

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:58 PM
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Marcus can be a real jerk at times

He has some football insight, no doubt, but he comes off as being very arrogant. He seems really frustrated to me.

Jamie Morris is a much nicer guy and has an equal or better level insight of insight to offer.

Make no mistake, though, the players I've spoken to from the NC team are not JH fans -- he demeaned their degrees.

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December 27th, 2017 at 7:42 AM
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degrees

How can his overall good (AFAICS, anyway) reception from other former players be explained?

It's not like he said "All those guys from Lloyd Carr's University of Michigan got lousy degrees. Ours were much better."

Here's an idea: Winning a national championship tends -- in some people -- to encourage an inflated sense of (football) self-worth. It maybe leads to conclusions like "Mike DeBord would be a good head coach. He was on the staff of a national championship team."

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December 27th, 2017 at 12:53 PM
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The Mike Debord truthers astound me, but you see

The Mike Debord truthers astound me, but you see them every time his name pops up.

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December 27th, 2017 at 10:54 AM
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'97 team

Between these accounts and what JUB says in his book, it seem some players from the '97 team have some issues.

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December 27th, 2017 at 12:52 PM
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If a former player coaching another team made a

If a former player coaching another team made a somewhat tepid (if stupid) remark about the agree programs usually associated with athletes bothers them that much that they hold a grudge years later, that says as much about them as Harbaugh. I thought Harbaugh was an asshole for saying it, but it astounds me that people like Toomer and Ray seem to hold real anger toward him for really minor slights.

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December 27th, 2017 at 12:08 AM
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His moods, my goodness.  That

His moods, my goodness.  That embodied his largest problem: he couldn't let go of his ego.  Indulging his moods on air was just the most overt expression, but that colored his entire program. 

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December 27th, 2017 at 12:10 AM
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Brother Love started last

Brother Love started last week or the week before, not at the end of the football season.

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December 27th, 2017 at 6:49 AM
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I haven't listened to WTKA in

I haven't listened to WTKA in over a year.  My favorite segments were when Marcus was on with Sam.  I had no idea he had gone downhill so fast in the last year.  Maybe he is having some personal problems that carried over to his on air show.  That tweet is worded like something of a "F U".  I hope he gets it together.  

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:32 PM
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Seems like he's always wanted to coach

Hope he gets the opp.

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:36 PM
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There seems to be a consensus

Situation is well described above.  I found some of his stories insightful but I don't think I would be able to remember him if he wasn't the guy opposite Woodson on an undefeated team.  I was about to write him a letter suggesting that he should pause and put a period on some of his statements.  They used to run on like a fan with too many ideas.

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:44 PM
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I Won't Miss Him

And I'm sad for anyone that does. Sometimes, sports guys shouldn't have a platform.

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:45 PM
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I will miss

Marcus Ray.  His honest opinion was appreciated and his knowledge of breaking down defenses was unsurpassed.  Go Luck 29.

Go Blue.

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:07 PM
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I agree, he was the polar

I agree, he was the polar opposite of Sam(everything is always positive!). Which was refreshing at times. I don’t need someone to tell me my team is great after they get blasted. He was always critical when the time called for it. And gave them praise when it was warranted.

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:54 PM
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"I've decided to get fired."

"I've decided to get fired." - Marcus Ray 

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:56 PM
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"I've decided to get fired."

"I've decided to get fired." - Marcus Ray 

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December 26th, 2017 at 10:58 PM
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I believe he always wanted a

I believe he always wanted a position on the coaching staff. As time went by and he didn't get any looks, I think he became more and more sour.

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:02 PM
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Thank you

Listening to him just piss all over our program, our coaches and our players was just awful. He was the most negative sports commentator I've ever listened to

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:02 PM
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Shedding no tears,

never found him that insightful, rarely listened to him.

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:07 PM
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No more stories

On how great he was or relating every possible sports story to his days at Michigan.
Good riddance. The guy obviously had a chip on his shoulder because he didn't get tan assistant coaching job under Harbaugh after basically begging for it on WTKA.

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:07 PM
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Fisch calling a great game

Fisch calling a great game for UCLA right now.

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December 27th, 2017 at 12:21 AM
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Jedd Fisch's one year at UCLA

Just looked up the stats:

UCLA 2016 S&P+ Offensive Rank (pre-Fisch): No. 82

UCLA 2017 S&P+ Offensive Rank (Fisch): No. 16

Obviously, Rosen's health also played a part, but that's a pretty remarkable change (even bigger than the improvement when Mattison and Hoke's staff came in and replaced Greg Robinson, et al.).  

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:14 PM
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I'm also watching...

I always liked Jed. I've got KState in my bet pool, so I'm hoping they find their footing here.

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:27 PM
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Rick Flair , come on down

Rick Flair , come on down

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:44 PM
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Good

His Harbaugh hatred was too much for me. The Shea Patterson comments were way over the top. I enjoyed Rays of Light very much but he's been dark space for a very long time. I love Jamie though, I'll tune back in.

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December 26th, 2017 at 11:55 PM
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Looks like Ray fell out of favor.

You can only keep things so real before you're no longer welcome. Even if youre Champion Alumni.

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December 27th, 2017 at 12:12 AM
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I wonder how many people on

I wonder how many people on this thread throwing shade at Marcus have a framed, autographed picture of the "Take That" SI cover hanging somewhere in their home. It's sad how much this fanbase loves to turn its back on former players just because they've said something fans don't want to hear.

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December 27th, 2017 at 12:34 AM
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Right on the money.

This is supposed to be a family. Family says and does stupid things at times. No reason to turn your back on them. I feel like Marcus did try to provide a different outlook and analysis most of the times. He did troll at times, but nothing out of hand. Sad that the fans drove one of their own to quit.

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December 27th, 2017 at 7:59 PM
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Thank You Fharajli

Well Put.  We are all Michigan Family and should pull for each other, even if we disagree with their opinion or way of doing it.  I enjoyed Marcus's story telling of the past.  Some of his inputs were excellent.  How he has reacted to the Michigan Mafia afterthey got after him was poor.  I will miss some of his inputs, Go Blue

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December 27th, 2017 at 1:58 AM
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Salute to you Mocha.

Well said.

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December 27th, 2017 at 1:27 PM
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Yet you are here complaining

Yet you are here complaining because you didnt like what others had to say about Ray? Hypocrite much?

People dont hate Ray the player they just didnt like his radio persona. He was not a good analyst period.

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December 27th, 2017 at 12:39 AM
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I wonder how many people on

I wonder how many people on this thread understand that you can celebrate great memories of Michigan football and can at that same time disagree with those that created said memories.  The idea that you have to agree with the ridiculous things that Marcus says to get a reacton in order to have this signed in your man cabe is ridiculous.  

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December 27th, 2017 at 1:13 AM
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Who said you have to agree

Who said you have to agree with him? I just don't think people have to go out of their way to bury the guy. My point is I bet most of the people wouldn't have the guts to say their criticisms to his face. A lot of what he's said in the past has been taken out of context. It is what it is. He's a Michigan man whether people like it or not. 

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December 27th, 2017 at 2:13 AM
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Did you read what you wrote

Did you read what you wrote above? You literally write that people that have that photo hanging in their home and think Marcus is a blowhard have somehow turned on him.

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December 27th, 2017 at 5:25 AM
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Well when you’re an

Well when you’re an entertainer or on air personality you’ve got to be able to take it. Marcus could give it out but the first time anyone have any back he shut stuff down immediately and acted like a baby. And because I don’t agree with him trashing a guy that’s had a top 5 defense for half a decade because he has to busts a game doesn’t mean I have to say something to his face. What are you 12?

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December 27th, 2017 at 7:01 AM
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Who’s going out of their way?

Who’s going out of their way?

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December 27th, 2017 at 7:45 AM
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0-3

I see the MLivers have shown up.

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December 27th, 2017 at 12:46 AM
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In my opinion Marcus Ray made

In my opinion Marcus Ray made the M Zone the most entertaining segment of all of WTKA. I love Sam Webb and the recruiting roundup but Marcus always made me laugh. Sure his analysis wasn’t always rainbows and butterflies but damn he’s funny and he has some great stories (like how they trolled Peyton Manning on their official visit together). I for one will miss Marcus. I like Jaime Morris as a person but without Marcus there’s no way in hell I’ll be listening to the M Zone anymore.

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December 27th, 2017 at 8:10 AM
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Hey Marcus.

Hey Marcus.

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December 27th, 2017 at 1:01 AM
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Good

His schtick of being a Michigan contrarian on the Michigan home radio station was not a very bright strategy. He was almost as annoying as Valenti. Glad to see he's moving on. Despite my dislike for his radio persona I do wish him the best of luck in the future.

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December 27th, 2017 at 2:40 AM
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But where will I get

But where will I get insightful analysis with such comments as, “You can’t make the club, if you in da tub”?

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December 27th, 2017 at 2:45 AM
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I always enjoyed his defensive analyses

I generally felt I could learn from him when he focused on that.

Unfortunately his on-air personality and demeanor was so sullen and disinterested when the focus wasn't directly on him that he was unlistenable. Even Sam got after him on-air one morning after a particularly petulant rant. I completely stopped listening to the M-Zone months ago because it was simply not worth waiting for the valuable stuff. I think he's got things to contribute, but he has to get over himself first.

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December 27th, 2017 at 4:47 PM
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I think i heard that one

Sam prob told the big ups “done with ray. Time to go “ Then ray said he is leaving before they could say “you done”

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December 27th, 2017 at 6:59 AM
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He’s terrible on air

I listened to his podcasts a few times on The Wolverine. He was awful. Whether he was butchering metaphors or idioms, or the English language, or claiming he predicted ahead of time what transpired in the game, I quickly found him unbearable.

On the other hand, if you haven’t listened to Doug Skene’s podcasts or “In The Trenches”, you’re missing out. He’s excellent and should be on TV. He would immediately be in the top 2-3 analysts in football, IMO.

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December 27th, 2017 at 8:17 AM
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Great player

Mediocre analyst at best. I don't get why those two things can't be true to some of you.

I'll double down and say that as much as I loved Terry Mills as a player, he has got to be one of the worst color commentators on the radio.  Just terrible.  Incoherant half the time and he thinks he's on TV with his descriptions - as if we are all watching it with him.  It doesn't mean I appreciate his days on the court any less.  Get a grip people.

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December 27th, 2017 at 8:20 AM
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He's still

Better than Huge

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December 27th, 2017 at 8:29 AM
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Hopefully his depression doesn't come back and

Hopefully his depression doesn't come back and cause him to keep eating his way to diabeetus.

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December 27th, 2017 at 9:28 AM
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Timing maybe?

Most of the guys were in their early to mid-30's when Harbaugh spouted off.

I agree with them. JH was no rocket scientist while at UM -- his meme that "I was told not to major in history" is BS (he was dyslexic and would have failed).

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December 27th, 2017 at 10:21 AM
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I liked when he talked

I liked when he talked schemes and such but he is very, very arrogant and thinks he is the smartest defensive mind in the world. He continuously said over the last few months he could go toe to toe with any defensive coaches and teach them a thing or two. Surprisingly, he’s not even a coach at the HS level anymore.

See ya

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December 27th, 2017 at 11:29 AM
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Here's the real Marcus Ray...

When he was at CMU coaching for Butch Jones, he took many HS coaches out to the coaches social at summer football camp.  Let's just say he wasn't behaving and was an embarrassment to CMU. 

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December 27th, 2017 at 1:40 PM
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He's also terrible on

He's also terrible on the BTN but the BTN in my opinion is terrible as well. 

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December 27th, 2017 at 1:49 PM
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Good luck to him. I think

Good luck to him.

I think expecting him to jump from an hour segment once a week to 4 hours of co-hosting 5 days a week was a miscalculation. Enjoyed his stories, the one about the Northwestern running back coach who recruited him was pretty funny, think he's much more suited to a Rays of Light segment.

The awkward silences recently were very cringe inducing, I wonder if Jamie got tired of carrying the show all of the time. I remember mark from lansing calling and essentially easking them if they were high, neither really gave much of a response.

Guess this means we get more of Rick Leach's son Matt. Sigh. Guest says something,Matt says pretty much the exact same thing in a slightly different way,repeat. Someone needs to tell him he can just say, "Yeah, I agree," every once in a whle.

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December 27th, 2017 at 2:28 PM
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Great player, horrible

Great player, horrible analysts who seemed to have a closet hate for anything Michigan that wasn't the 1997 team. Also sometimes his scheme analsys was wrong, and felt he knew everything when it came to defense and always knew what was going to happen after it happen.

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December 27th, 2017 at 6:21 PM
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Marcus also seemed to have a

Marcus also seemed to have a clear preference for the guys from The Wolverine (John Borton, Chris Balas, etc.). I’m guessing because they clearly kiss his ass where the WTKA callers seem to question his critism. Crazy, fans of a team might be critical of the guy who criticized said team? Unfortunately, Marcus’ “keep it real” approach only included saying nice things about Ohio State and not Michigan. Sad!

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December 27th, 2017 at 3:24 PM
#113
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He can go back to Columbus

Since that's all he talks about anyway. Did you guys know he's from Columbus? And knows the neighborhoods too?

Good player, hard to listen to on the air. It shouldn't be hard to find someone better.

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December 27th, 2017 at 4:43 PM
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See ya Marcus

Don’t let the door hit ya on the way out ....now i can listen to Sam more without you there

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December 27th, 2017 at 6:15 PM
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Bill22
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Am the only one annoyed by

Am I the only one annoyed by Ira? If Sam is off, I can’t even listen.

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December 27th, 2017 at 8:22 PM
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Yes

You are the only one

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December 27th, 2017 at 11:06 PM
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Good luck to him. Great

Good luck to him.

Great player, but I really have gotten tired of his analysis due to his overwhelmingly disinterested attitude on Michigan Insider.

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