He did that weeks ago, and his parents have confirmed his commitment.
...says Denzel Valentine of Big Ten Tourney favorite MSU, which is 5-7 in its last 12 games. Cumong, man.
He did that weeks ago, and his parents have confirmed his commitment.
He had the Michigan background and info until today, I think.
This is the second time we've gone through this "he removed Michigan from his twitter" stuff. Overanalyzing.
A 16 year old kid changing stuff on twitter?
"He changed his background! OMG...he's gonna decommit! Fire everyone!"
He took it off a while back, but I am not worried. He is good friends with Peppers and even tweeted today saying how much of a role model Peppers is for him. Peppers will keep him around.
Also he is playing as Michigan on NCAA. Come on now, everybody knows that whoever you use on NCAA is your dream team.
Lord, please forgive me for being so unholy to this man @GalenHarris__
This is one source, none of the michigan guys have said anything.
No one on scout, rivals or 247 has said anything so I don't buy it.
...so I am not taking this as bad news for 2014, just reaffirmation of a crappy 2013 thing.
Will someone put me in a medically induced coma and bring me out of it when there is goods news?
Probably just get some life perspective.
Go down with you!
And we haven't so yea that's how the cookie crumbles
The best news I have to offer is an unsubstantiated rumor [from Ace Williams that is certainly fabricated because it came from Ace Williams.]
\grasping at straws
ED:BISB - NO ACE WILLIAMS.
Make me extremely happy.
Too bad DB won't even make a call to gauge interest. Oh well, hopefully he or his brother are interested in 2015 after another subpar Michigan season in 2014.
Even if that rumor were true, the interest would have to be mutual. Brandon already has his Michigan man in place. Hooray for the program.
Did you just create this rumor?
With emphasis on rumor, this comes from Ace Williams.
Like Aerosmith said, "Dream on. Dream on. Dream on. Dream on. Dream unitl your dream comes true."
ACE WILLIAMS ISN'T A THING.
Quoting Ace Williams is punishable by catapult
"unsubstantiated rumor" and ""emphasis on rumor" is clearly not quoting anything. Is it? Keep it straight.
But now that you mention catapult, Johnny of Jimmy could catapult Michigan into the Empyrean heights of college football in a heartbeat. Do you want to try to tell me stranger things have never happened?
Thank you. Seriously, cool dog BiSB.
Never ever ever EVER use anything from Ace Williams. Remember Chunk from Goonies, and all his fantastic stories? That's Ace Williams. IIRC, he's the same guy that made some outrageous claims about The Horror.
Isn't The Ace Williams a kid in suburban Detroit according to fearless leader?
"Ace" rumours not historically credible though periodically interesting for conversational purposes.
Trebuchet has a nice ring to it.
Harris took the UM stuff down weeks ago, but is still committed to UM.
You don't go through a season like Michigan with players saying they did not have their heart in it without consequences. As well as Hoke can recruit, the stench from this season has become toxic. The coaches need to be all over these recruits trying to keep them in the fold. Let's hope the MIchigan brand with its outstanding academics will prevail.
and I think we're going to have at least one additional high-profile decommit.
Any thoughts as to who you suspect that would be?
We've had an enormously disappointing season that ended about as poorly as you could fear, which in turn simply amplified the growing questioning of our coaching staff's abilities that arose during the season. The success of MSU has brought to the forefront the issue of developing talent, and right now it doesn't look favorable to UM.
Combine this background situation with the fact that so many kids are committing so early these days, and I think that it's just human nature that some kids will be privately wondering about the direction of the Michigan program, and I think it's likely one of those will break ranks and bolt. Other schools don't back off just because a HS kid verbally commits to UM, and if one of those schools has a football program that at the moment is on the upswing, it will be very seductive to at least some of those kids who are wavering.
If Hoke & Co. manage to keep all the present commits and add a couple more quality kids with the remaining scholarships, it will be a tremendous sales and marketing job.
Wouldn't Malik McDowell have to commit prior to decommit occurring or are you relating this to G. Campbell?
I'm just thinking of the class of current verbal commits, that's all. Believe me, I hope I'm dead wrong. If anybody can keep the class intact, Hoke is up to it, but I think it will be a very tough task.
I hope you're right Don, and I hope that high-profile decommit that we're going to have is Da'Shawn Hand, in what will be the first miracle performed by the Commish.
kid has got to do what's best for him, if he somehow commits to Mich, I will welcome him with open arms, if not, on to the next guy and so on.
The decision of a 17/18 y.o. Will not send you off a bridge?
Why so calm? The sky is clearly falling.
I read that we made his top 7, which is it?
It sucks, because I bet if Michigan had won 9-10 games (PSU, Iowa, Nebraska) then a lot of this would've died down. It would've still been an underachieving season if they had pulled out those wins but 9-4 or 10-3 looks a hell of a lot better than 7-6.
Three losses are still more than what has been suggested as his top 3, have combined.
Jerry Montgomery made the right career move after all.
I have wondered about the loss of Coach Montgomery. The D line has sucked since he left. Talent and all considered here.
Michigan hasn't done very well on the recruiting trail since he left either. As the best or one of the best on the staff at recruiting, it'll be interesting to see how they do down the stretch and in to 2014.
Michigan will prevail. Though it might require a different regime.
There is, of course, a NOLA.com article from yesterday - HERE - which still includes Michigan on the list and reports that he does not yet list a favorite.
"I feeling all of them a lot right now," he said. "I wish I could go to all of them. It's going to be hard. It's going to be real hard."
It may not be us in the end, but this is simply to illustrate that not all sources believe we are more or less out of it as the OP seems to suggest.
In the words of Tom Brady "not everyone gets to be a Michigan Wolverine".
OSU has been to 10 of 12 BCS bowls, the only 2 missed were due to probabation and Fickell. MSU has had 3 seasons out of 4 of 11 wins or more, something UM has never done (yes there are more games nowadays but its been a long time since UM won 10 games 3 out of 4 years if you want to adjust), and is playing in the 2nd best bowl game this year (#4 v #5) after a great performance versus said team which has been to 10 of 12 BCS games.An
And then you have UM with the all time winning %...err ok, well all time wins. And his parents like it. And its defense just looked like swiss cheese vs OSU and KSU. I mean this should not be a question anymore if you are a defensive player. If a kid wants tradition AND winning you go to OSU in the Midwest. If you dont care so much about tradition and you see a staff that takes a bunch of 2-3 star talent and turns it into NFL stock you take a close look at MSU. An annual top 10 defense now now that Dantonio has had time to build his program. If you care about what happened in 1938 or 1986 you look at UM.
Mattison had a window of opportunity with "come with me and Suggs, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed etc"...and Hoke had a window of opportunity post 2011 Sugar saying we are a year or two away to be OSU level...we need you to help us there. But now as we move further away from the Mattison NFL years and the 2011 BCS bowl glow and replace that with the on field results the past 2 years, this will happen.
I think the real damage is in the 2015 class because there is no way to now which kids who would once consider UM now will not, and which kids who would have had UM in a top 3, now just throw them in the top 10 because hey its Michigan and my dad said they used to be good and they have cool helmets.
Longer term the RR/Hoke era probably is going to do even more damage if things dont turn around quickly as many teens now dont remember a "very good" UM program - one year like 2011 doesnt change perception.
UM still is getting a lot of good kids and I guess the staff needs to do what every other staff does - you know, develop them. Build a team from the ground up, and not insert 4-5 stars everywhere and clap your hands and expect it all to just happen. I am not saying they are not working hard but apparently something is amiss since we are not seeing results on the field. And dont blame youth - the team was not "young" in November and was horrid on offense a few games and then horrid on defense the last 2. Not bad, horrid. That is coaching.
I largely agree, though I'll take issue with dismissing the "youth" argument because they played a bunch of games. Lots of those kids playing on defense had only played for part of the year because they were true freshmen and those guys have to earn playing time. And at the same time, they are playing against significantly older players - OSU had a very old and experienced offense, and KSU imports so many JuCos that there is a significant age difference in addition to skill. Players don't usually improve more than incrementally during the year, but in the off-season I expect we'll hear about all of these first and second-year players making far greater strides.
It is true that Michigan has lost some luster, but it was still one really "down" year after two decent seasons. 11-2 in 2011 was a bit of a mirage, but 8-5 last year came against three teams that lost a total of one game between them (and that was Alabama beating ND in the MNC), a last-second loss in a bowl game to a top-10 USC squad, and at Nebraska after Denard went down (UM was very much in that game before it happened). I wouldn't be surprised if this season is treated as the anomaly, and next year the squad bounces back to 9-10 wins, which has been the general pattern for UM for the past 10-15 years.
OSU will always have more resources because of their recruiting footprint, storied history, and lax enforcement policies. And maybe MSU is a sleeping giant of sorts awoken by Dantonio (though, again, "player development" of 2 and 3-star kids is usually not sustainable at this level. Look at Iowa for a better example), but I still think UM is a destination school for good kids who also favor an elite education and all of the ancillary benefits that come from the program. Maybe it means UM will struggle to get some kids, but a couple of down years aren't going to change the academic rankings, the history, and (one hopes) NFL prospects for elite kids.
Its been almost a decade since Michigan could be considered elite. They've had one decent year in 2011 when they won 11, and the rest of the seasons have been what any other top program would consider terrible -- 7/8/9 wins.
And they are at least a couple of years away from being able to be considered elite since you've got to string together a bunch of 10 win seasons or championship games appearances to get to that level. And it sure as hell ain't gonna start next season.
Like I said above, its sad.
And dont blame youth - the team was not "young" in November and was horrid on offense a few games and then horrid on defense the last 2. Not bad, horrid. That is coaching.
Well, because you said so. Srsly.
Is it really just coaching though?
You talk about Dantonio "building" the Sparty program but you don't acknowledge that upper class depth matters. Would have been nice to have introduced RS seniors Vlad Emelien, Isiah Bell, Anthony LoLota and Adrian Witty on Senior Day before the Ohio game. Would have been nice to have Cullen Christian, Demar Dorsey, Carvin Johnson, Davion Rogers, Ray Vinopal and Ken Wilkins on the field...
Plainly, this is a young team and, unlike your cited Mark Dantonio, Hoke has not had time to "build his program" as you discuss. As is clear above Michigan also been devoid of upper class depth and it absolutely impacts the defense.
You say "build a team from the ground up" and Michigan's recruiting is doing that (Pipkins, Taco last year, Mone etc.) but this takes time regardless of "stars".
The lack of upper class depth is the telling factor on defense.
And dont blame youth - the team was not "young" in November...
There's an element of truth to this but the flipside is a lot of these first year players are getting mentally and physically worn down toward the end of the season, so you can see inconsistency and even regression. You can make a case for a quantum leap forward next year when all these new guys have had a chance to stop and process everything.
Trying to stay positive.
Malik is not coming. Those that still have hope are kidding themselves. Guys like him with this type of protracted recruitment don't seem to work out for us. If he's looking at osu, FSU, Bama he's not coming. Now I hope I'm wrong but save yourselves the trouble and consider him not part of our class and you'll be happier for it.