Major D-1 University Is About To Be In Hot Water
I know this is frowned upon but I read a really interesting thread on Rivals and wanted to hear what the board thinks. Apparently a major news source is about to publish a report about a major D-1 school that not many would expect. There are supposed to be names, dates and amounts. It was stated that it close to coming out, maybe before Summer. They have to get all of their facts straight before coming out with it. It's supposed to be a huge news story and sounds like it could absolutely devastate whichever school it is. A lot of people are speculating that it is PSU or ND. If I find anything else out I'll let you know. Let the speculation begin.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:32 PM ^
does not think much of the hiring practices in the SEC!
February 24th, 2011 at 4:37 PM ^
Put me down for TCU.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:43 PM ^
I'd be cool with Wisconsin after last night and Bielema's dickery all the time.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:45 PM ^
I'm taking Texas or Bama
February 24th, 2011 at 4:49 PM ^
reading posts where people think it might be a southern school. The OP states that it's about a school not many people would expect. Do people really think southern schools don't cheat? I don't think to many people would be surprised if an SEC school got nailed for cheating.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:54 PM ^
It's probably the ESU Timberwolves.
February 24th, 2011 at 4:58 PM ^
That's true, the most shocking would be Stanford in my eyes, I've always felt ND does shit sideways.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:10 PM ^
More people haven't said Auburn.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:14 PM ^
It's supposed to be surprising.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:32 PM ^
Honestly, if this school is supposed to be a "surprise" then it isn't going to be anyone in the South (maybe Florida or Georgia), and it won't be OSU or probably even us, simply because there have been well published if not overblown violations in the last few years.
Notre Dame gets recruits because they're the Dallas Cowboys of college football. Everyone around the country wants to play for them and people will pick them to be good even when all evidence shows otherwise. I don't think you can look at their recruiting success and point to violations. It could be them but I don't think they're recruiting success would be the reason.
I think it's too early to make any real predictions outside of those.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:18 PM ^
For Clemson!
February 24th, 2011 at 5:35 PM ^
He said it wasn't an obvious choice. Any school in a former confederate state save Vanderbilt is an obvious choice.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:20 PM ^
My first thought was Oregon. I think they realized the shit that USC was pulling and figured the only way to compete was to go with the crowd. They probablyy even picked up the tab on a couple of Usc transfers
February 24th, 2011 at 5:22 PM ^
Lots of Nike money floating around, definitely would be a surprise, ......
February 25th, 2011 at 1:44 AM ^
Doubtful. Oregon's recruiting classes have flown under the radar the past few years. Come to think of it, I don't think they've ever even pulled in a top 20 class.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:49 AM ^
Dating back to 03 their classes have been ranked 26, 12, 28, 49, 11, 19, 32, 13, and 9. Over the last 5 years their average is 16.8. Not mind blowing except the jump between 06 and 07, but not really under the radar either.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:30 PM ^
The most likely outcome is that the rumormongering is complete bullshit, kind of like the rumors last fall that Auburn was going to be kicked out of the SEC by the end of the season.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:30 PM ^
The most likely outcome is that the rumormongering is complete bullshit, kind of like the rumors last fall that Auburn was going to be kicked out of the SEC by the end of the season.
February 24th, 2011 at 7:57 PM ^
there were rumors Auburn was going to be kicked out of the SEC?
February 24th, 2011 at 8:29 PM ^
a TigerDroppings (?) message board thread about someone who had connections that said the Cam Newton thing was being strung out because the FBI was investigating Bobby Lowder because he owns a bank that received bailout money.
Allegedly that investigation uncovered (or would uncover) a plot to use his failed bank and his casino interests to launder payouts to Auburn recruits and players (such as "OMG I went to Lowder's casino and won $5,000. What luck!" ) . And with Lowder being an Auburn trustee and his past transgressions with boosterism Auburn was going to get destroyed by the NCAA and could potentially lose their accreditation (because the school's board members involvement proves a lack of integrity amongst the university's leadership).
Then the loss of accreditation would force them to be kicked out of the SEC. But none of this could come out until the FBI had nailed Lowder on the bank/casino crimes.
In fact according to the TigerDroppings insider the only reason the Cam Newtown thing was on the FBI's radar was because it could corroborate things they learned about from wiretapping Lowder's business associates.
Here is a link that has that link
February 25th, 2011 at 1:58 AM ^
February 25th, 2011 at 6:05 PM ^
that even a fraction of the TigerDroppings stuff is true and Auburn gets its comeuppance. I'm just not holding my breath.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:32 PM ^
Pics or it didn't happen.. Seriously, some anonymous poster has some information from a "source" who says a major d1 program is going to get boiled. We know it happened, now we just have to get the facts straight? Err. Yah.
Why would top recruits go to ND? The same reason they would go to UM.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:58 PM ^
It wasn't an anonoymous poster it was one of the writers that is employed by the recruiting service.
February 24th, 2011 at 5:42 PM ^
Bo Pelini seems kind of shady coming from Youngstown. That city is corupt as hell.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:24 AM ^
Your logic would also make Oklahoma, Arizona, Florida State, Ohio State, Kent State, etc... all guilty since all of their head coaches or Coordinators are products of Youngstown.
February 25th, 2011 at 9:29 AM ^
Going by the list you provided, 3/5 of those programs have either faced recent sanctions or have a history of shady practices. So, you contributed to the supposition that Youngstown is a corrupt community.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:05 PM ^
If it's ND, and it's some sort of grading/cheating-related scandal, I can't say I'd be surprised.
Then again, Stand and Deliver was based on a true story.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:12 PM ^
to look good in comparison to the likes of the SEC. We'll soon be wiping the floor with MSU anyway.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:14 PM ^
As much as I hate ND, I don't think it's them. They recruit so well regardless of performance because they're the biggest Catholic university in the country. That alone gets you in with a lot of players and families. Add the constant TV exposure and (now seemingly pre-) historic success and ND doesn't need to cheat to get good players. List of major programs that would surprise me:
Northwestern
PSU
Stanford
Wisconsin
Iowa (though I have a funny feeling it might be them)
...and I guess Nebraska and Oklahoma
February 24th, 2011 at 9:56 PM ^
"ND doesn't need to cheat to get good players"
Except maybe for this little incident...
Following an investigation in 1999, the NCAA placed Notre Dame on two-years probation for extra benefits provided by a representative of the university to football players and one instance of academic fraud. The NCAA found that Holtz and members of his staff learned of the violations but failed to make appropriate inquiry or to take prompt action, finding Holtz's efforts "inadequate." (straight from wikipedia)
February 24th, 2011 at 6:16 PM ^
Yeah what about Clemson? They're doing something dirty there for sure.
Or Florida (aka Urban Meyer pulling the Pete Carroll)?
February 24th, 2011 at 6:40 PM ^
All these teams (aside from PSU) are teams I wouldn't really be blown away by. I mean any SEC Team you have to figure is dirty from the get go, but what if it were Texas or Oklahoma?? I mean as much as I hate Texas for beating us in the best Rose Bowl Game ever (except for our national championship win), I respect the heck out of Mack Brown and Bob Stoops. If it were either of those two teams I would be absolutely shocked.
February 25th, 2011 at 1:54 PM ^
Texas played USC in the best Rose Bowl ever, sorry dude.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:45 PM ^
man some of you guys are really sounding pathetic
February 24th, 2011 at 6:58 PM ^
If it's wrong to wish ill upon our hated opponents then I don't wanna be right.
February 24th, 2011 at 6:59 PM ^
don't get me wrong I got more than one laugh out of the thread, but the off season is only getting started...
February 24th, 2011 at 6:54 PM ^
this could be telling.
February 24th, 2011 at 7:05 PM ^
If Anthony Zettel was offered money to go to Penn State, do we owe bkFinest an apology?
February 24th, 2011 at 9:30 PM ^
Maybe?
February 24th, 2011 at 7:00 PM ^
"a major D-1 school that not many would expect"
If that's the case, you can rule out OSU, USC, Oregon, UNC, and the entire SEC. I don't think that many of us would be surprised to see these allegations levied against those schools. My picks would be Texas, Clemson, Iowa, or Kansas State. Clemson & KSU are probably out because...really..."Major D-1 Program"??? That leaves us with Texas or Iowa.
Where's your money?
February 24th, 2011 at 8:43 PM ^
why wouldn't you be surprised by oregon. I've never anything dirty about them. They even kicked their heisman candidate QB off the team. They've got the nike money burning holes in their pockets (and apparently on their basketball court), they have become much more relevant in the last 5-6 years, their in the same conference USC, and whats more shocking than the MNC runner up recruiting scandal.
February 24th, 2011 at 8:43 PM ^
why wouldn't you be surprised by oregon. I've never anything dirty about them. They even kicked their heisman candidate QB off the team. They've got the nike money burning holes in their pockets (and apparently on their basketball court), they have become much more relevant in the last 5-6 years, their in the same conference USC, and whats more shocking than the MNC runner up recruiting scandal.
February 24th, 2011 at 7:04 PM ^
It cam out yesterday that they 'may' have some damning stuff on Auburn, Miss State and 'bama...but they are still trying to get a few people on the record.
EDIT: It cam out yesterday, haha
February 24th, 2011 at 7:07 PM ^
Is this bet-able on Bodog yet? If so, I'd like to put a few bucks on Wisconsin. Brett Bielema is such an ass-hat; he deserves the (football version of the) death penalty.
February 24th, 2011 at 7:26 PM ^
Sorry, the +1 won't help return you from Bolivia, but +1 just the same. I also can't stand Beilema. I think tagging him Ass-Hat is AWESOME!
February 24th, 2011 at 7:08 PM ^
I know we're all looking at football here, but could it be Duke basketball? That would shock the shit out of (nearly) everyone.
February 24th, 2011 at 7:19 PM ^
Must be a slow news day.
Nothing against the OP, but this reads like one of those fortune-tellers who use generalizations and some murky language to "divine" that I had a dog growing up that I cared about, broke a bone playing a sport, and liked hotdogs at baseball games.
Yes, a big-name team will be caught paying its players -- just like they have for years. UM, USC, most of the SEC, FSU, SMU, etc. - it happens, and saying stuff like "oh yeah, it may be out by the summer" is just nebulous enough that when you hear Tenn. or Auburn are being investigated in April it will sound like foresight instead of mere generaliztions.
February 24th, 2011 at 7:27 PM ^
What about Boise State? It seems whenever they're playing they talk about how they recruit so well out of California. Would any decent player really want to go from California to Idaho to play on that horrendous abomination of a field?
February 24th, 2011 at 7:44 PM ^
They don't recruit that well out of California. Their team overachieves and its not full of blue chip recruits.
But back to the OP, when will it be revealed?