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Mack Brown not thrilled with Longhorn Network

Appears that Brown doesn't like the scouting opponents get of his team with the LHN coverage.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/ncaa/10/22/mack-brown-tex...

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:07 PM | And Texas fans aren't (Score:5 Normal)
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And Texas fans aren't thrilled about a defense that ressembles a GERG defense

If you don't like Michigan you are a peasant

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October 22nd, 2012 at 10:06 PM | What would they know about a (Score:5 Normal)
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What would they know about a Gerg defense?

 

Oh. Right... /somuchempathy

Colors That Float

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October 22nd, 2012 at 11:35 PM | You mean the 2004 Texas defense... (Score:5 Normal)
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that gave up 16.2ppg (14) and 317.2ypg (24)? I don't think they felt anything like our pain, although some linebackers might have had to feel the beaver.

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October 23rd, 2012 at 9:57 AM | Knowing what we know now, (Score:1 Normal)
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Knowing what we know now, that defense performed that well DESPITE Gerg's presence, not because of it.

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October 23rd, 2012 at 10:38 AM | GERG (Score:3 Normal)
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never ran his defense here.

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October 23rd, 2012 at 12:44 PM | Good point (Score:4 Normal)
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In retrospect, Rich Rodriguez would've been better served to meddle less on the defensive side of the ball and let GERG design the defense the way he knew how.  Of course, that would've inevitably lead to the uncomfortable, "You know Rich, I'm not really comfortable with Tony Gibson being on my staff" conversation.

 

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October 23rd, 2012 at 9:03 AM | I just can't believe those (Score:2)
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I just can't believe those are real photos of Gerg. In every single photo of him coaching, it's feels like it's being staged. Nobody can look that foolish all the time right?

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

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October 22nd, 2012 at 11:46 PM | I liked your tag better when (Score:2)
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I liked your tag better when it included SueLyn Medeiros.

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October 23rd, 2012 at 6:00 AM | Ehhh it's too attention (Score:2)
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Ehhh it's too attention grabbing

If you don't like Michigan you are a peasant

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:07 PM | He's grasping at straws, (Score:4 Normal)
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He's grasping at straws, trying to provide an excuse for his team's poor performance.

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:09 PM | Considering everything we (Score:5 Normal)
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Considering everything we hear from Hoke seems intended to give out zero information and the total lockdown of practice I think Hoke would feel the same way.

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October 22nd, 2012 at 11:07 PM | Both of these things are (Score:4 Normal)
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Both of these things are true.

For the record, I'm not a eugenicist.
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October 23rd, 2012 at 10:43 AM | Yeah, (Score:1)
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he is.  If Mack Brown retires as the end of the year his exit could still be considered to be a graceful-like substance, but I think he may be getting into Farve-Paterno-Bowden territory if he stays much longer.  I have always liked him and think he was/is a hell of a coach, but is message is just not getting through right now and I just don't see a big turn around coming soon.

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:08 PM | Michigan needs their own (Score:-1 Offtopic)
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Michigan needs their own network for hockey. ND gets all of their games broadcasted on their website. ND wishes they were an inch close to the tradition rich program Michigan has.

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October 23rd, 2012 at 12:01 AM | Yes and as an avid michigan (Score:2)
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Yes and as an avid michigan hockey fan I would pay more than I should for this

If you spell Crisler like the car company you should hand in your fan card before the next meeting.... Same goes for Ferry Field

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:20 PM | Because his opponents (Score:5 Normal)
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Because his opponents wouldn't get film of his squad without the LHN? I'm having trouble feeling sorry for Texas when they make a ton of money from that network and their arrogance and selfishness was one of the main driving forces for the exodus of other Big 12 members. 

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October 23rd, 2012 at 9:18 AM | Agreed.  Unless they are (Score:2)
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Agreed.  Unless they are showing exclusive all-22 film that opponents could not get elsewhere, I'm not sure what the huge advantage for opponents is.  Besides, wasn't the last controversey that LHN was playing high school games and the fear was that would make every TV-craving TX high school player want to go to Texas?

Perhaps they could fill the extra time with non-revenue sports (which would actually be very good exposure for those sports) and campus programming? I doubt Brown will be able to blame his pillow-fight defense on opponents watching Texas's cross country teams compete or the class project of Film 201 students. 

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:27 PM | So in other news (Score:5 Normal)
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I hate Texas even more now.  

"Those who stay will be champions" -Bo

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:30 PM | Clear Explanation... (Score:3 Normal)
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I suppose when your team is giving up an average of 472 yards of offense per game and that is about a 36% increase over last year, it comes down to either the television obligations of the team or Manny Diaz simply not being thrilling or a talent deficit at vital positions. Clearly, if your defense fades to the tune of 36%, it is all on ESPN and the Longhorn Network and that deal. 

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:31 PM | Mack Brown might not like it but (Score:4 Normal)
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That just comes with the territory at being at the richest football program in the country.  I bet he likes all the money that leads to better facilities and all the exposure that leads to better recruits.  I agree with the posters above, he is just making excuses for a shoddy defense which has put them out of the Big 12 race midway through October.

Go Blue!

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:33 PM | Nebraksa, Missouri and Texas (Score:5 Normal)
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Nebraksa, Missouri and Texas A&M left the Big 12 because of that network overexposing the Longhorns.  Now Mack Brown is complaining about it? 

Go Blue!  Always!

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October 23rd, 2012 at 12:20 AM | Exactly (Score:2)
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I was going to say neither does the Big 12.

I love Greg Mattison

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:39 PM | mack brown is a cry baby. (Score:4 Normal)
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mack brown is a cry baby. always has been.

Vice.com

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:44 PM | But it's all for the kids, (Score:4 Normal)
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But it's all for the kids, remember? That's why he thought televising the HS games of his recruits should be allowed. For the children!

Don't quote laws to us. We carry swords.

-Pompeius Magnus

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:56 PM | (No subject) (Score:2)
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Go Blue!  Always!

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:48 PM | I can kind of understand (Score:3 Normal)
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I can kind of understand Brown's point of view just a bit. He talks about having to do TV shows like 3 times a week and do a good bit more with covering up injuries so it's not on TV. Sure, Texas makes millions of it but Mack doesn't get to buy jetpacks for his team with that money so they can score easier. All Mack really sees is probably some better facilities and 10+ more hours added to his work week

Rudy watches inspirational movies about Shawn Hunwick

 

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:54 PM | Have you seen the Longhorns (Score:2)
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Have you seen the Longhorns stadium? It is a monument to greed. They have advertisements shoved every place possible. It doesn't matter that there's a point of diminishing return for the program, especially since it was meant to benefit the program in non-monetary ways...namely, as a recruiting tool.

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October 22nd, 2012 at 11:11 PM | No zoning laws in that state (Score:2)
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free for all chaos, but that's the way they like it.

“We have no rival. We are Nebraska.”

--Bob Devaney

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October 22nd, 2012 at 11:20 PM | Actually, I believe that's just Houston... (Score:1 Normal)
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as far as the big cities down there go.

http://austintexas.gov/development/zoning

/publicpolicynerd

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:55 PM | Fuck Texas. Their shaggybevo (Score:1)
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Fuck Texas. Their shaggybevo ms paints are awesome, but if you take some time to read that board, they are HUGE whiners. You think we're bad about things? They had a plane fly over their stadium last year that said "Greg Davis is not our standard" (he was their OC). Then after the Oklahoma game, they posted pictures of their tickets to the Baylor game ripped up.

I hate Texas A&M too by the way. They are like msu but worse by ten-fold.

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:58 PM | This is actually a fair (Score:2)
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This is actually a fair comparison. UT is like us...but worse. And A&M is like State...but worse. Same interactions of blueblood pride and deep seated inferiority/resentment...but worse. They make it real ugly.

Don't quote laws to us. We carry swords.

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October 22nd, 2012 at 10:46 PM | Everything is bigger in (Score:5 Normal)
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Everything is bigger in Texas, right?

We ARE Michigan....COME GET SOME!!!

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October 23rd, 2012 at 8:00 AM | Blue blood (Score:1)
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Yeah, they're kind of funky with the blue blood thing. Tons of wins, but very few titles.

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October 23rd, 2012 at 9:02 AM | Another reason to hate TAMU (Score:1)
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They tried to steal Bo from us in the early eighties.  I was too young to remember the details but my father talks about Bo almost leaving for a $3 million/10 yrs payday to Texas A&M.  Back then, it was richest ever I think.  But the Alumni got together and took care of Bo.  I think they gave him a couple of pizza franchises or something.

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October 23rd, 2012 at 8:26 PM | One of them was in Columbus, (Score:1)
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One of them was in Columbus, OH I think.

M'Dog

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October 22nd, 2012 at 9:57 PM | It would be impossible to (Score:5 Normal)
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It would be impossible to understate how little sympathy I have for Coach Brown on this issue.

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October 22nd, 2012 at 10:36 PM | Manny Diaz was supposed to be (Score:2)
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Manny Diaz was supposed to be the greatest thing since canned beer.  What the hell happened?

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October 23rd, 2012 at 12:36 AM | He's not playing (Score:5 Normal)
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Diaz isn't the problem with the defense just like Harsin (and Davis before him) haven't been the problem when the offense has struggled. 

If the way Mack and his staff have handled the QB position the last few years is any indication, their scouting is either terrible or totally dependent on Rivals rankings and guys who fall into their laps as early commits.  Texas didn't offer in-state prospects Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III.  If they have been making anything close to those kinds of mistakes at other positions then no coordinator is going to solve their problems any time soon.

It is spelled HOKEAMANIA.  Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!

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October 22nd, 2012 at 11:14 PM | As yes Mack, that's why your (Score:4 Normal)
bronxblue
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As yes Mack, that's why your team gave up 50 to Baylor.  They saw your Coachspeak-laden pregame show.

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October 22nd, 2012 at 11:21 PM | Sounds like a sorry excuse to (Score:2)
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Sounds like a sorry excuse to me.  Texas should never be bad.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day. 

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October 22nd, 2012 at 11:22 PM | (No subject) (Score:4 Normal)
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October 22nd, 2012 at 11:28 PM | At first I laughed (Score:4 Funny)
miCHIganman1
Joined: 11/24/2009
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At first I laughed. Now after my 20th time watching this it may be the saddest thing I've seen outside of this lion's offense

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October 23rd, 2012 at 7:09 AM | No! (Score:1)
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Its still funny!!

Mom, MGrad and life long fan living in So Cal

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October 22nd, 2012 at 11:25 PM | Mack Brown should have more (Score:1)
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Mack Brown should have more pressing concerns, like the overall mediocre quality of his football team. And mediocre is being nice.

Brady Hoke: Kicking Ass And Signing Names On The Recruiting Trail

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October 22nd, 2012 at 11:26 PM | I don't see how this a real (Score:3 Normal)
trueblueintexas
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I don't see how this a real problem since most people in Texas can't actually see the longhorn network.

/ohsnapnohedidn't

"Anyone who isn't confused, really doesn't understand the situation." - Edward R. Murrow

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October 22nd, 2012 at 11:37 PM | My response? (Score:3 Normal)
CompleteLunacy
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Tough. Shit.

You (your program) signed up for this, and nearly took down the whole Big 12 conference as a consequence if not for some key teams joining in TCU and WVU, and that took some serious magic to get done anyway. 

You made your own bed here, so it's hard to feel any sort of sympathy towards it. Maybe this should have been an issue brought up while negotiating the whole TV channel thing in the first place? Nah, who could EVER expect anyone to have such crazy foresight?!?

 

I'm not a lunatic. Seriously, i'm not.

Ok, maybe just a little bit. 

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October 22nd, 2012 at 11:54 PM | Well (Score:5 Normal)
Tagg
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Maybe the Longhorn Network is not thrilled with the subpar Texas football team they have to show. Luckily they still have the Texas womens volleyball team! 

Not being sarcastic either. I have AT&T Uverse and get the Longhorn Network here in Michigan and it's not hard on the eyes unlike Mack Brown's football team.

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October 23rd, 2012 at 12:57 AM | Blaming the media is to (Score:3 Normal)
SFBlue
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Blaming the media is to football what blaming short sellers is to finance: a desperate attempt to steer the dialogue away from one's own performance.



Missing Ann Arbor

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October 23rd, 2012 at 2:46 PM | How can anyone feel sorry for Brown when.... (Score:1)
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he's at a school with a goldmine of high school talent within the state, they have beautiful facilities, tons of money, and a highly supportive fan and alumni base?  He should stop making excuses and start leading and coaching his team better.  For $5 million a year, I'd expect a lot more if I were the Texas AD.  Probably time for MB to ride into the sunset. 

"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans!  Now go out there and make it happen!"

- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22  OSU 0)

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