October 23rd, 2014 at 6:51 PM ^
that's pretty crazy and possibly illegal.
I understand small user mailbox limits and even short retention periods for things, but federal law requires all email that may be relevant to current or future litigation has to be archived. This one probably wouldn't be an issue there, but I find it hard to believe a univeristy as large as Michigan would let all of Brandon's (or any administator's) messages be permanently deleted in a week.
October 23rd, 2014 at 5:59 PM ^
The most surprising thing here is that when a message board poster says that the DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS of a major university emailed a fan telling them to find another team to cheer for, everyone believes it, and does so until an FOIA request reveals it was false.
This just shows how easily people will believe negative things about people they don't like (and I'm sure the opposite is true as well). I believe that's confirmation bias.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:02 PM ^
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October 23rd, 2014 at 9:51 PM ^
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:26 PM ^
Or it shows that DB has done enough arrogant, tone-deaf, fan-alienating things that the story was (kind of) believable. Moreso than with any other AD in the country anyway.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:39 PM ^
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/26/magazine/what-if-age-is-nothing-but-a…
Within this very interesting article about positive psychology is the mention of a study about this very thing (although not about people they don't like, but about labels - in this case job applicant vs. patient). In any case, it's well worth reading, especially if you're heading up into your 40's, 50's and beyond.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:54 PM ^
I absolutely agree. I will say that Brian commented that he heard similar stories from other people. Not calling Brian out, but he did provide some credence to it, even if unintentionally.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:03 PM ^
WD, learn from this. Exuberance of youth often leads the well-meaning astray. This case is proof of that.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:06 PM ^
Am I the only one here who remembers the original post? The source of the email was WD's (female) friend, who got it from her aunt. Why does everyone go on about WD's aunt? It's not his aunt!
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:10 PM ^
about WD getting banned for getting something wrong on the internet...I know MGoblog is the foremost Michigan sports blog in the universe but people get stuff wrong. Its part of life. A good natured ribbing of WD should suffice. Brandon is still a shitty AD and that is all that really matters here. If actual people in the know are correct Brandon will be yesterday's news very soon.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:16 PM ^
If it were anyone but WD, no one would care. But for some reason I do not understand, a lot of people seriously cannot stand WD.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:46 PM ^
Who post interesting Michigan sports related anecdotes and amusing quirks regarding their Michigan themed wardrobes on a Michigan themed sports blog...
wait, no I don't, and I don't understand why anyone else does either.
I think WD is the epitome of who you want on a blog like this. He is a die-hard Michigan fan who has been a contributor here since the age of 14. Give the kid a break.
October 23rd, 2014 at 8:18 PM ^
Straw man argument. The reality is he fabricated a email in order to drum up hate for DB and get him fired. Dave Brandon should be fired (or not?) based only on the success of the athletic program and his ability to translate the provided experience to all UM fans.
October 24th, 2014 at 12:26 AM ^
lies strictly with the treatment WD is getting. He fucked up, we are mostly in agreement there, but there are actual people on the other end of these cyber handles and sometimes those people do unfortunate things when they feel isolated or targeted. Despite his seemingly infinite number of MGoPoints WD is often targeted for unwarranted negs and negative comments because people don't like him. This shit is all fun and games until it becomes a bullying situation and I for one will do my part to prevent that.
October 24th, 2014 at 1:46 AM ^
WD is not the victim here, Dave Brandon is. It is Dave Brandon that is the target of a smear campaign...bad enough when it's his own failings that are being smeared in his face, he doesn't need vicious false accuasations to fend off as well. Brandon has done things and said things that people love to mock and denigrate, but as far as I know, he has yet to sully anybody's good, or bad, name.
October 24th, 2014 at 10:45 AM ^
We don't know that WD fabricated the email. Maybe he did, but maybe his friend did. We do know that WD is guilty of one thing - posting the email - but let's not accuse him of something else entirely without some proof.
October 23rd, 2014 at 7:57 PM ^
I give him a lot of grief, but unless it can be proven that he made this up himself, I don't think he should be banned. But he should LEARN FROM THIS (he probably won't). He should be neg banged to bolivian, and never be allowed to live this down. Maybe give him a unicorn avatar, and an embarassing sig line or something.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:16 PM ^
WD just needs to learn his lesson with a good neg-bomb. He has enough points where he can survive one, right?
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:16 PM ^
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:38 PM ^
The FOIA request was from Jon06, not WD.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:52 PM ^
Please substitute Jon06 for WD. Next.
October 23rd, 2014 at 8:39 PM ^
I believe a FOIA request freezes the document from the time of the request to 180 days after the U's written denial (at which point my legal right to appeal to the President and/or sue them for disclosure expires).
Also, BiSB is a lawyer, and saw my FOIA request a long time ago, and also I believe submitted one of his own on behalf of MGoBlog. But I appreciate the unwarranted sanctimony of your response; sometimes I think I know everything, too.
October 23rd, 2014 at 9:14 PM ^
Then your requestor either failed to properly scope his request, basic English language requirement, or there are no compliant records (in which case why the apparent falsification in support of the request?), else malfeasance on the part of recipient. Which aspect, express or implied, harbors the failure? You? The University? Please do share.
October 23rd, 2014 at 10:12 PM ^
First, holy unnecessary legal argot. Please see item 1 at http://www.kentlaw.edu/academics/lrw/grinker/LwtaLegalese.htm. If you want further replies from me, you'll have to speak regular English so everyone who is interested in this exchange can follow it easily. I would also like you to either (i) acknowledge that you were wrong on the law re: what it takes to freeze FOIA'd documents in Michigan or (ii) provide evidence that you were not wrong on that question. (To satisfy (ii), please cite Michigan or federal legislation or a case that constitutes binding precedent on Michigan circuit courts, and provide direct hyperlinks.)
Second, the FOIA request is already reproduced above, so you can read it for yourself if you're interested.
Third, I believe I've already adequately responded to everything else on this thread.
To reiterate: I will not respond to any more posts from you unless you cut the legalese and speak plainly.
October 24th, 2014 at 12:32 AM ^
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:16 PM ^
The FOIA request was very specific. Is it not possible to FOIA all emails sent from DB's email account on a certain day between two points in time?
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:19 PM ^
That's what Brian did, but he's still waiting for his request to be completed.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:54 PM ^
Brian received this same reply, and his request for help on twitter this morning was an attempt to make an idependent inquiry into the email's legitmacy.
EDIT: Brian's twitter suggests he may not have received a response yet.
October 23rd, 2014 at 7:56 PM ^
I FOIAed emails from two addresses from 9/26 to 10/15. Michigan is making me resubmit the 10/2 to 10/15 request on a technicality.
— mgoblog (@mgoblog) October 23, 2014October 23rd, 2014 at 7:15 PM ^
I don't think you can do fishing expeditions like that. Presumably you have some key words/info or name specific people with whom he was corresponding.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:17 PM ^
Everything's coming up Milhouse..err..Dave Brandon! between student ticket prices going down today and this development. Blah.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:17 PM ^
Wolverine Devotee's aunt is none other than RollDamnTide.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:20 PM ^
October 23rd, 2014 at 7:30 PM ^
Please don't make the mistake of categorizing all African princes this way. I don't want you to suffer the wrath of King Jaffe Joffer when he defends his son.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:20 PM ^
No worries mate - just make a "ghost of" account and all is forgiven and forgotten!
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:22 PM ^
He decreased prices and now this is debunked.
Schlissel and the regents would much rather reign him in than she'll out a 3 million buyout.
And Brandon doesn't wanna be fired. He knows what it'll take to save his job and he's not stupid.
We're stuck with him. I think we need to start coming to terms with this as a serious possibility, if not the likely outcome at this point.
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October 23rd, 2014 at 6:36 PM ^
Thats exactly what Brandon wants - everybody to just shut up and stop complaining about him until it all just fades away and he picks up right where he left off....So, if you want him fired, keep complaining, keep making noise about it.
They want him gone, but he won't agree to resign. He's fighting to stay on and being quiet about it only helps his cause.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:27 PM ^
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:29 PM ^
Color me shocked that the Internet lied to me again.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:38 PM ^
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:48 PM ^
Unfortunately, my giant penis and the large stack of cash and cocaine on my desk keep blocking my view of the screen. Really hope Keith Olbermann doesn't tell everybody about this while my home address scrawls across the bottom of the screen.
+1 anyway.
October 23rd, 2014 at 8:20 PM ^
On the next Olberman...'I want to send a sincere congratulations to PurpleStuff from MgoBlog...Dude is packing heat!..'
October 23rd, 2014 at 9:05 PM ^
My girl is going to be super pissed if ESPN keeps broadcasting that I'm rocking a baby arm dipped in ya-yo. Sure, I have the cash to support all the curious young ladies that show up, but that shit puts strain on a relationship.
Fuck you, Keith Olberman!
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:52 PM ^
WD should have been more careful, but he's a fan on a blog and not, say, a professional journalist on national TV.
October 23rd, 2014 at 6:43 PM ^
October 23rd, 2014 at 7:03 PM ^
October 23rd, 2014 at 7:54 PM ^
I believe Brian should be held responsible for those actions.
October 23rd, 2014 at 8:44 PM ^