M - 8 MSU - 0 (FB recruiting)
Unbelievable. MSU coming off of their dream season and we're 8-0 (9-0 if you count Shane)against them in head to head recruiting. Lets keep the streak going and right things this fall in Spartan Stadium. Next up.....
While I'll miss the spread O, Hoke and company seem to be doing all the right things. Keep it going in recruiting and hopefully on the field this fall.
Hmmm...8-0, they must've gone for two. Why did they go for two? Because they couldn't go for three...yet.
Quoting Woody Hayes will never be in good taste.
Even considering the circumstances under which he said that, I still like that one quote of his.
all-time classic quote. Even Bo chuckled about it. I am fortunate to have witnessed several Bo/Woody moments over the years. Woody was a class act and Bo loved him even though Woody coached that team down south.
Except when he punched that opposing player. That wasn't very classy.
Oh, and when he got his team on NCAA probation for giving money to players. That wasn't classy either.
Oh, and when he was put on probation by the Big Ten for assaulting a cameraman. That wasn't very classy.
If you also count Poole and Clark, along with Morris, its 11-0 for Hoke against Dantonio
Hoke is cleaning house. I made a comment last fall on here that didn't go over too well with the board that the best thing to happen to MSU football wasn't the hiring of Mark Dantonio, but it was the hiring of Rich Rodriguez. I still stand by that. Although coach D seems to get a lot out of his 2 and 3 star diamond in the rough recruits, we can't continue to build a program on that. Your defense will be a nightmare in a couple of years.
Couldn't have said it better myself, very well put!
Your melon hat has made you wise.
Can you shed any light on the RCMB's habit of locking any thread that discusses Michigan recruiting? I only glance over there every now and then (I've never posted; I just read for a sense of reaction and a touch of schadenfreude), but I can't help but notice the speed with which the lock falls.
I don't get the quick locking and even sometimes complete removal of threads Are they that high strung?
I'm guessing they are super insecure and delusional over there. They seems to talk about out of state recruiting and how MD develops talent better than anyone in the universe.
People have started pointing out these meltdown threads more on Mgoboard and it makes 247 look as crappy as it really is. scUM ho!
Considering the two posts:
"Bump when your wife is a bitch" and "Bump when you kill a house centipede", I'm forced to agree.
Who needs Mathlete analysis when you can talk shit about your wife behind her back? That's what sports are all about, right?
but those house centipedes are creepy. I lived in a house senior year with a cracked foundation and the basement hallway outside my room kept flooding. I got an 'up close and personal' view of the insect life of the state of michigan every time it rained. On the plus side, we had a lovely backyard and garden with a lot of huge trees and wildflowers and stuff.
Well, the only times I lived in MI I was a bit young to remember stuff like that. As far as staying there now, I have an uncle in Grand Rapids where deer is more likely to be a problem than bugs, and uncle in A2, but in a newer house without a cracked foundation, and then an uncle in Brighton who, when I was younger, had a playhouse set up in his yard with all kinds of bugs in it. If I were to post about centipedes in that thing, I would be on RCMB all day, but not in an actual house I've stayed in.
I don't think it's odd. Michigan is off-topic for them, and discussing us seems to lead to nasty arguments. So they lock UM-related threads before they get out of hand.
Michigan might be OT for them, but a) they have most generous OT allowances in the known universe ("Bump when your wife is a bitch"???), and b) when one of their targeted recruits goes elsewhere, I can't see that being OT.
I guess it's just a meltdown avoidance mechanism. I was just curious.
I don't read RCMB, so I have no knowledge of the thread-locking you guys are talking about, but it's not like threads here haven't been locked. There's an entire sticky thread about what's been deleted or locked and why (one that got so long they had to start another, and probably soon a third). Unless I'm missing something (which I usually am), I'm not sure why rampant locking and/or deleting of melt-down threads is such a mystery.
if we can put an end to the awful 3-0 streak this season, it'll be an even better finish
we are Michigan ... we need to stop obsessing over MSU and concentrate on more relevant opposition (read Ohio & Alabama in 2012)
but first we need to beat them, then we can return to normalcy and focus on the bigger games.
is everything. We obsess around them, we'll be stuck with them.
so many things wrong with this "argument". but i'll stick to the most basic one: since when has being focused on beating an opponent been a bad thing???
I am high on commitments and the celebratory beer.
I talk crap when I am high.
celebratory beer at 10am on a thursday morning? well now i'm just jealous.
"return to normality", Returning to normalcy would require a time machine.
President Harding created the word 'normalcy' and was badly admonished for it. Somehow it seeped into the U.S. vernacular as a new synonym for normality. Normality has tradition on its side, but both are now accepted parts of English language. Calling "normalcy" an English error is an exercise in ignorant esoteric elitism.
English/Theatre Major'd.
If you had asked me three years ago (or hell, even a year ago) if I thought of MSU as a rival, I would have said no. Beating MSU wasn't any better than beating any other team (although, losing to them hurt worse). But the fact is, the last three years have changed things. The in-state rivalry has been re-ignited. If you still don't think of MSU as a rival or not worthy of thinking about, you haven't been paying attention the past few years.
but not to the point where we go all obsessive over them. You obsess about mediocre teams, you can't focus on the bigger objective.
I understand one step at a time and all that but they don't deserve the attention from us they are getting is my more subtle point.
We're fans. Our focus has next to no impact on whether "bigger objectives" are achieved.
I like your topic of being 8 and 0 against Lansing, however, I just can't bring myself to like the spread. It was not RR, or anything like that, I just have never been a fan of any spread offense. I look at Purdue and the lack of success they have had running it, albeit lack of quality players, but still realistically it has not been very successful in the Big Ten. I am not sure if Hoke is the answer to all of our prayers, but his recruiting has been very successful thus far. I am hoping the trend continues on the field in the fall.
Some things just 'fit'
Its like love.
Hoke loves and understands Michigan. It is why he will be successful here at Michigan.
RR came here to do a job.
Yes, the spread offense that was featured by both teams in the National Championship game could have NEVER worked in the Big Bad Big Ten. I am not arguing that RR should still be the coach here, but saying the spread offense wouldn't work in the Big Ten is moronic at best.
Doesn't anyone remember how OSU beat us in 2006? They spread the field. They told us they were going to spread the field and they did. Then they won. When we beat Florida the following year, we spread the field. It wasn't read option, but it was spread. And it worked. In the Big 10.
I love having a offense that is diverse. You bring up Purdue, but Northwestern has had success with their 1 and 2 star talent running the "spread". On a national level, time and time again one if not both of the teams in the national title game are running the spread. Alabama, USC, and a others still run pro style offenses though. At the end it's the most talented teams that get there and this recruiting that Hoke is doing is a very postive sign.
that for the most part the teams that make the BCS title game have rock solid defenses no matter what style of offense they run.
I think that's a bigger factor than their spread offenses
People are also forgetting that it's Purdue. Tiller had nine win seasons in West Lafayette; how is that not successful? Also, like other people have said, look at NU.
To the original comment: I could also look at Minnesota and conclude that pro style offenses suck. I'd just forget to look at Alabama and USC and think it was a good argument.
yeah those spread offenses really struggle to produce. Oregon, Auburn, Florida, etc. all really have a hard time putting up points...
There is something about the Big 10 where third and fourth wide receivers cease to be good. Come on man; seriously? You look at the second least talented team in the Big 10 and deduce that spreads don't work because of them? I guess App State, Oregon, Florida (against OSU), TCU, and Texas (VY twice against the B10) don't count because they aren't technically IN the Big Ten. Also, I suppose we have superior athletes to the SEC where Spread Teams tend to win the conference more often than not these days.
I wouldn't like having Auburn or Oregon's offense either. Scoring that many points just wouldn't work in the Big Ten!
but I was laughing at the ridiculous "Bump When Your Wife is a Bitch Thread" and the "Hot or Not: the NEW Bristol Palin" thread.
Soooo......
What's the verdict? Is the new Bristol hot? Or is she not?
Thank god those guys are taking on the tough job of sussing that out. Truly God's work over there.
...We're discussing our possible recruiting goals for the class of 2013 with a high level of analysis. Night, meet Day.
for the first time last week to lurk. Holy crap, I can't stop reading it now. If there was a message board version of a train wreck, it's that page.
Feels, like the tides are turning back to us. This is the benefit of being Michigan though isnt it? You have 3 sub par years, bring in a new coach, it gets national media attention when it happens and after (Urban Meyer visit), and now the recruits feel the buzz around M and want to be part of it. I can't wait for the storm to finally clear and things to get back to the way they used to be.
2011 class: Frank Clark, Antonio Poole
2012 class: Matt Godin, Pharaoh Brown, Mario Ojemudia, James Ross, Devin Funchess, A.J. Williams, Royce Jenkins-Stone, Ben Braden
2013 class: Shane Morris