LSU/Miles NCAA violations
I think there will be plenty more of these coming (from other schools) in the wake of our and USC's troubles. Thanks for sharing. I'm sure ESPN will bury this somewhere.
ick! I don't like being lumped into the same pile as USC's issues.
These violations are totally different. A Michigan Man violation. Makes it all better.
EDIT: Up on ESPN now. Guess they aren't burying it.
haha this is great.. go figure this comes out after he looked like a coaching nightmare managing the clock in all those games, then topping it off with a piss poor finish against PSU
hmmm because of some event that happened in the 90s, I will go with the AP poll for national champ
Yeah, but in 1998 there was the Bowl Alliance, which required that the winner of Nebraska vs Tennessee be named national champs by the coaches poll. Or that's what I know from Wikipedia.
Ok, slightly different since Big Ten and Pac-10 weren't in the Bowl Alliance, but close enough for me.
The Bowl Alliance didn't require voters to do anything. In the post-bowl coaches' vote, Nebraska got 32 first-place votes to our 30.
So the fact that USC was #1 in both polls going into the bowls means nothing to you? LSU made the title game thanks to a bunch of arcane computer rankings. Human beings thought SC was better.
Anyway, you seem to be forgetting that the "national title" is mythical to begin with. The NCAA does not recognize college football as having a national champion. There are just two groups of people that cast ballots for unofficial "champs" after the last game. One poll requires its members to vote for the winner of the BCS game (although some voters have violated this rule) and the other does not.
This could be a complete non-issue. Athletic Departments self report stuff like this all the time (even UofM). It could be as benign as the JUCO kid heading to campus a couple weeks before he could get into the dorms or apartment, and he ended up crashing at a coaches house.
Back in the summer of 2004 (I believe) when a football house burned down, the day after a couple AD employees were at the mall purchasing clothes for the effected players to wear because all of their belongings were charred or smelled like smoke. This money was ultimately reimbursed through insurance or players' families, but at the time it was an NCAA violation. It was reported and nothing came of it.
The LSU situation is a little fishy w/ the coach resigning, but before we throw up our hands and act like LSU is full of cheaters we should understand that most AD's are overly careful w/ self reporting and things like this really do (for good reason) happen all the time.
i think the point trying to be made is not that lsu is full of cheaters. instead, it just goes to show that as soon as the losses start piling up people begin to put the microscope on anything the team is doing. do you really think the paper that shall not be named would have been looking into practice hours and tricking unknowing freshman into answering loaded questions had we won a couple big ten championships to start the Rich Rod era?
I'm not saying losing hasn't made the situation worse, it has; but clearly from the very beginning there has been a "lets expose RR/The Michigan Program" mentality in certain unreputable media outlets.
Totally different situations...
UofM is under the microscope because the Freep created this whole "end of innocence" situation in the prestigious and ever ethical UofM AD.
LSU isn't under the microscope, it's just been brought to light that they self-reported some ultimately meaningless secondary violations. Violations that, I would bet, amount to a kid crashing at a coaches house when couldn't get into his other arranged housing and/or being fed by said coach while crashing.
This wasn't a crusade by a local Baton Rouge paper brought on my a couple less than spectacular years under the Mad Hatter. It was, I believe, standing operating procedure for their AD.
In the end I was trying to temper the expected "OMG LSU cheats too...woe is me...Freep can suck it" meme that results from these types of posts.
I don't know... reading Doc. Saturday's post, it sounds like a lot more than a kid crashing on a coach's couch for a short period of time before he can get into the dorms.
He apparently was able to sublet an apartment at half price for three months before he was enrolled, had "student employees" to shuttle him around and take him to the airport, use of someone's car and was given $350. Plus, what sounds like a Kelvin Sampson situation with phone calls.
I get what you're saying. Athletic Department staff probably should and do take care of a kid when the situation warrants it, but that's not what this sounds like.
The NCAA is checking people out a lot recently
I for one am shocked and appalled that this would happen under the watchful eye of a "Michigan Man". At least there is one "Michigan Man" still clean. Harbaugh is our only shot.
Hey I hope this whole Rodriguez thing works out, but if he gets canned Harbaugh won't look half bad.
You're our only shot.
Doesn't have quite the same ring to it, does it?
He dropped something like $75,000 on putting a bathroom in his office when Stanford is having to implement work and salary fixes/reductions for university staff to avoid layoffs.
I'm just sayin'
this is really old. The assistant doesn't even work there anymore and they stopped recruiting the kid as soon as they found out about what had happened.
I'm sure ESPN will comment on how we almost hired Miles, immediately after they note the allegations surrounding his program. Thus, they can perfectly segue back around to our violations.
Dr. Saturday seems to place some significance on these violations, although the penalty may not be too harsh.
LSU SENDS RESULTS OF INVESTIGATION TO NCAA.
LSU has delivered to the NCAA a report detailing violations in its football program involving primarily one former assistant coach and one former student-athlete following an exhaustive internal investigation that began in September.
LSU announced in November that an internal investigation had been launched into possible violations of NCAA rules in its football program. Since that time, the two individuals who were the focus of the investigation have left the university. The student-athlete, who transferred to LSU last summer, never played in a game for the Tiger football team.
“As disappointed as I am in the violations that occurred, I have an equal amount of pride in our compliance office’s quick actions, in our thorough investigation and in our reactions to the findings,” said LSU chancellor Michael Martin. “I believe we have avoided potentially more severe sanctions because we self-detected these violations early and took immediate disciplinary measures.”
The 55-page report was delivered to the NCAA office Tuesday. The NCAA will review the report to determine if additional interviews are necessary in order to complete a full evaluation of the violations.
“It is a very serious matter any time violations of NCAA rules are discovered, but I take comfort in the fact we have a compliance program in place that discovered these issues early and took swift action to minimize the severity of the situation,” said Joe Alleva, vice chancellor and director of athletics. “We stand ready to assist the NCAA with any further information they may need to complete this process.”
Upon the discovery of potential rules violations in September, the student-athlete was not permitted to participate in varsity athletic contests and the assistant coach was restricted from participating in recruiting activities for LSU. The assistant coach resigned from the university in December and the student-athlete left the university prior to the spring semester.
The investigation centered around the recruitment and transfer of the student-athlete from a junior college to LSU in the summer of 2009 and the assistant coach’s role in the recruitment and transfer process.
LSU discovered potential violations associated with impermissible telephone calls to the student-athlete during the recruitment process, impermissible transportation before and after the student-athlete’s arrival at LSU, impermissible housing and reduced-rent at an apartment complex in Baton Rouge in the three months prior to the student-athlete’s enrollment at LSU, and the purchase of one meal by a football office student worker.
LSU, in the report to the NCAA, outlined a plan to strengthen its internal procedures for authorizing the engagement of prospective student-athletes who move to Baton Rouge prior to enrollment, to enhance its rules educations and monitoring process for student workers, the completion of more detailed administrative forms and a thorough review of policies pertaining to the maintenance of telephone logs.
Money to recruits isn't too good. LSU is going to try like hell to make this seem like an act of one desperate assistant vice a larger program issue. If not, those are actually pretty serious violations--and if it happened once, it probably happened multiple times.
Now I know why Lloyd didn't like Les...
In a 55-page report delivered to the NCAA on Tuesday, LSU outlined a plan designed to strengthen its internal procedures for handling new student athletes who move to campus before enrollment and to enhance the university rules education and monitoring process for student workers.
I like how they're acting like this was some oversight, when they almost certainly knew all along that they were breaking the rules. Improper telephone contact, transportation and housing? There is no way they didn't know what the rules were.
in the SEC? Surely this is some kind of joke.