How is LSU only -6? Is WVU actually decent with Stewart gone?
LSU @ WVU /Evening game open thread
I think LSU is going to murder WVU so it will probably be a close game.
Maybe we should talk about Minnesota and NDSU? Not looking so hot out there...
It sounds a lot of NDS fans are in the stadium.
I thought the same thing. Short trip for a big game for them I suppose. I'm sure Minnesota/NDSU tickets weren't too hot i Minneapolis.
Or the Indiana-North Texas game? Not looking so hot over there either. I mean, Indiana isn't supposed to be world beaters or anything, but North Texas is 0-3 on the season already (though one loss was to Alabama)
LSU isn't really explosive, and I could see them being satisfied with keeping the game close. That said, -6 seems tasty.
Corso picked the tiger head so it is a done deal that LSU will win.
Rich Rodriguez picked WVU, so there's that!
Les looks like he is ready to eat field turf.
Lets get this out of the way, Michigan should not wear the all maize uniform ever.
WVU provides a valuable public service by giving us a demo of how bad the all-yelllow banana unis would look on Michigan. Thank you.
On the other hand, excellent "Maize-out" on their part. Why can every other school with yellow as a color - WVU, Iowa, etc. - do a proper full stadium "Maize-out" except us?
because we have twice as many people to coordinate?
In the ND game, the pom-poms actually were pretty effective at creating an illusion of a Maize-Out.
Because I've seen enraged elderly gentleman scoff at the notion of wearing maize.
A few years ago at a game I saw an old man shout at a student wearing a "Go Blue Wear Maize" shirt, "No! Don't wear maize, wear blue!" Ahhhhh, people....
On the field
apologies for the misplacement but I don't know how to get this it's own topic (not that it deserves it)
But Minnesota has gone to backup QB Max Shortell. the game is tied at 14 near halftime. should be a nice relaxing game next week.
Shortell played last week (or 2 weeks ago). So, it's not a shock, but yeah, it's not good.
Should have just been offsetting.
Weird, that it would be an SEC officiating crew in Morgantown.
Refs just fucked Vandy. Tie ball goes to the receiver, but they awarded it to South Carolina deep in Gamecock territory.
...and it was tipped about 700 times. Interesting, and lucky for LSU.
What a play to go to the half in the NDSU vs Minnesota game.
The Goofers! NDSU intercepts, fumbles it, teammate picks it up and runs it in for a TD. What a LIonesque play.
in the NDSU-Minn game. NDSU picked off Minnesota, ran it back a ways, the guy got tackled but fumbled the ball behind him and a teammate picked it up and ran the rest of the way to the endzone to close out the half. Minnesota is looking awful right now.
Some dude named Jenson is going all Hulkamania on them.
36 trucks remove fire fuel (couches) as WVU-LSU game looms
On the one hand, I'm appalled. On the other hand, I'm a little bit impressed.
Too much size, physicality, and yes, speed. Brute strength plus speed equals dominance.
nice punt too.
TD Missouri, 13-3 w/ point pending. FYI, it's on FX w/ Gus Johnson on the call.
I'm not so sure.
Missouri is up 14-3 on OU. At times like this I wish I had cable so I could hear Gus Johnson explode over this upset.
OU comes right back. The catch was whacky: Hands, thigh and back in his midsection. 14-10 w/ 4:07 in 2nd qtr.
All I ever pay attention to is Cornerbacks and I must say Morris Claiborne Is a complete STUD. I think hes the best in the nation or right behind Janoris Jenkins.
Passes the eye test for sure. They hardly threw his way. Actually, they hardly threw period. UNA struggled to a 28-20 win versus an option team.
Janoris Jenkins is basically perfect. I would take him over Patrick Peterson anyday.Better Zone Coverage, Off man coverage in better that Patricks, his press Coverage isnt as good but its still above average by far, nice size- i like my corners a tad bit smaller, better hips, nice speed, great tackler, only down fall is his off the field issues.
Both Zach Banner and Jordan Payton are visitng OU, so an OU loss would be great.
OU just scored a TD 17-14 Oklahoma
I underestimated LSU, more so the offense but even the defense some. Alabama-LSU will be the game-of-the-century for 2011.
Don't like the pin stripes and striped tie on Herbie.
LSU's defense is scary good. And Mathieu is Ed Reed. Hate him a little bit for that camera stare down just then.
I want us to emulate that kind of D. I think we are heading in that direction. We have the coaching and the recruiting is moving in the right direction.
Defense wins Championships. LSU will be in the hunt for one because of their D, even though their O is pedestrian.
OU scores in "a NY minute" according to Gus. 24-14 OU.
Shaun King is calling the game and he looks like he went undefeated in crawdad eatin' contests rather than college football games. Good lord, did he get fat in a hurry.
LSU scores again. 27-7 just before halftime. And the Ess-Eee-Cee chant starts. Sigh. Don't think they're saying that in Starkville where La Tech is ties with MSU (ntMSU).
Did you see the crawl that Mauti is "likely out for the season" for PSU
Was the Minnesota thread deleted?
There were about 4 open threads at once, so we consolidated them.
Musberger said WVU had to be careful to avoid an interception about five seconds before the one in the red zone.
Looking like a laugher. Time to focus on our next opponent, who just got Pick 6d by NDSU. Minny trails 37-24 with 2:36 left in the game.
500, dead or alive!
...when you schedule a rematch with that FCS team that embarrassed you at home four years ago.
I'd like to think our program will be above a Minnesota level in 2014.
...is that from a public-perception standpoint these FCS games are a disaster. Look at Indiana and Minnesota tonight--N.D.State's Massey rating is well ahead of North Texas and I think that's probably accurate, but I suspect the general feeling tomorrow is going to be that Minnesota's loss was a lot worse. There's a perceived gap between the top of the FCS and the bottom of the FBS that I don't think is actually there, and the casual fan isn't familiar enough with the FCS to differentiate the teams. Good team or bad, it's just an FCS loss.
I'm sure the average FBS AD is aware of this. The reason FCS teams keep getting scheduled is simple: someone has to fill those slots. It's getting increasingly difficult to get teams to agree to come without a return trip. The FCS teams will still do it, so they get scheduled.
There are 37 teams in the C-USA, Sun Belt, WAC, and Mountain West conferences. Is it really the case that none of them (aside from SDSU) would come to Michigan Stadium without a return trip? I find that hard to believe.
ADs at BCS schools all say the same thing. For whatever reason, it's becoming hard to fill those slots.
Some of those schools in the leagues you mention would come play a guarantee game. But they may not have an open week at the same time as us - or if even they do, it may be inconvenient for them (they may have a rivalry game the next week). They may demand too much of a financial guarantee. The FCS schools are generally dying for publicity and will come cheap.
Which is why we're playing an FCS team in 2013 that we've never played before.
The name escapes me at the moment, but all I know is that we've NEVER PLAYED THEM BEFORE.
I don't want to get too ahead of myself for next week, but. It's amazing how bad Minnesota looks tonight.
USC @ ASU in fifteen minutes. Go Devils!
Minnesota-ND St stats look even before turnovers w/ Minny's 2 perhaps the deciding factor. So, maybe the Gophers are just even w/ an FCS team. Yikes, the Big 10 stinks.
With Illinois just holding on, who can you be impressed with, besides Wisconsin? Nebraska is starting to put away with Wyoming, but the D has been a disappointment. I gotta believe the Big Ten gets only 1 BCS team.
Minnesota and Indiana suck, but I'm not sure we can evaluate the entire conference based on the bottom-feeders.
Nebraska looks pretty good. Wisconsin looks like a legitimate juggernaut (thanks, B1G Schedulers!!!), Michigan and Illinois look decent, and Ohio State doesn't suck as much as I had hoped.
...and seeing a bit of Toledo/Syracuse, maybe the Western win was better than we thought? And maybe OSU's and PSU's struggles with Toledo and Temple weren't as embarrassing as we thought? Temple put an absolute beatdown on Maryland today--it was 31-0 at the half.
The Western performance today is a good signal for the good guys, and you're certainly right about Temple. On the other hand, Miami losing to Kansas State isn't a vote of confidence for the bad guys. While I have a hard time rooting for some Big Ten teams, yeah, I'd rather the conference look good than not. The fanbase that really as to have its panites in a knot is Wisconsin. Can't you see the Badgers going undefeated but standing outside of the BCS championship game this year? It's a long season, but I can't say it wouldn't be undeserved depending on who else has an equal record.
OU looks like it's about to score again.
That KSU-Miami game was kind of weird - Miami was able to move the ball reasonably well, but just couldn't score when it mattered. They nearly stole the game at the end as it was, and after a tough game against OSU I figured they overlooked the Wildcats a bit.
I do agree about Western and Temple, though. Temple in particular looks like a very tough MAC team, one that could knock off a couple of ranked teams on a neutral field.
I hear you, but Nebraska and OSU are relative disappointments, as are Iowa, Penn State and perhaps Northwestern. The bottom is really bad, and that also includes Purdue. Overall, the list you gave isn't all that impressive compared to other non Big East conferences. To be sure, it's one of those things and shouldn't be extrapolated to future years. But for 2011, da-y-ng. Just keeping it real dog. Given your avatar, that's funny.
If the Big Ten has two 10 win teams, they'll get two BCS bids. It has nothing to do with merit or quality, and everything to do with alumni base, tv ratings, and butts in seats.
With 4 open spaces, you're probably right. Even on merit, the Big 10 number 2 will be better than the Big East #2 and probably better than any non-BCS conference, non-Boise team (I'm looking at you ND). So, on merit, it just has to be better than one of the #2 ACC and #2 Pac-10. Those odds are decent, even before you consider "butts in the seats".
When I line them up, the Big 10 isn't any worse than the ACC and Pac-10 and certainly better than the Big East. But, for 2011, it's way behind the SEC and Big 12.
I think the SEC is the class of college football - well, actually LSU and Alabama are the class of CFB, the rest of the SEC being a bunch of meh programs with outsized ambitions - but I'm not sold the Big 12 is that much better than the Big 10. Yes, Texas A&M and Okie St. are also highly ranked, but I'll reserve judgment on both until they play anyone else. And Baylor is a great story, but that TCU win might not be as huge an upset as we once thought, and again lets see how they handle a full season. I actually think the Big 10 and Pac 12 are vying for #2 right now, since I'd take Oregon and Stanford over anyone from the ACC or Big 12 save Oklahoma. And Clemson looks really good now, but they've beaten two good teams in a row for the first time since I was in college (early 00's), and I've seen this act from them before on their way to 7-6.
Unreal. Offense? Good enough -- and then some.
Loving the Beatdown in Morgantown.
Interesting that Minnesota lost at home to North Dakota State the week before playing us in Ann Arbor in 2007 as well. I went to that game (the weather sucked) and I'll be at next week's game too.
WVU scores again. I like the screen pass on 1st and long.
Absolute backbreaker and crowd quieter.
The 'eers scratch and claw their way back to within one score, and then their kickoff return team suddenly forgets how to tackle. The crowd shots were great, too.
I would pay money to be the cameraman for ESPN and only get reaction shots from horrified and disgusted fans.
Wow, it's windy at ASU.
The WVU offense is spreadtastic!
The great D teams like LSU always have these tall, rangy, ball-hawking DBs. I miss that. No more smurf-backs.
LSU's Ware (# 11) is a best. Sorry about the cliche, but he's a guy who is very hard to tackle.
LSU goes for 2 and misses. Hmm, I'm suprised Les didn't find a way to go for three.
I don't know if he was trying to be a jerk. The immortal "chart" says you should go for two when you score to go up 19.
at least. Couple of RB's, Rueben Randle, the DL, virtually the entire seconday. Man, they are stacked.
Is that fog in WV or couch smoke?
LSU has some interesting treatments on the sidelines...
I respect Rodney Gilmore, but he just said something dumb. Burfect (sp?) just had a great interception against Barkley (ASU-USC). Barkley tackled Burfect downfield, and Burfect went ove to help Barkley up. Gilmore called it sportsmanship. Obviously not a penalty, but no way was that a show of respect. That was gamesmanship---a very creative one at that.
LSU Alabama look like the class of college football right now, but I guess we'll see how it plays out during the year.
Now, this is probably sour grapes, but I can't wait until the NCAA really looks into some of these SEC teams and sees just how shady they are. There is a reason Urban Meyer constantly complained about some of the issues he saw in the conference, and how unlikely it is that a single conference would win so many titles "fairly" despite the fact that most of the arguments for it (better local talent, strong fanbases, better coaching, etc.) have all been largely disproven and/or shown to be inconsequential. It just drives me crazy that you see teams trotting out stud players left and right and realize that they basically cut the bottom 20% of their team every year to make room for them, while everyone else tends to stick it out with the kids they brought in.
How has the "better local talent" argument been disproven? It's not a coincidence that practically every program in the country recruits the South (especially Florida and Texas), while Southern schools often don't bother recruiting outside their home region.
Anyone watching the USC at ASU game?
Go Sun Devils. USC is at least as evil as Texas and Alabama.