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Lou Holtz is a frickin' idiot...

Lou Holtz just said on the ESPN pre-game, in reference to the Cam Newton story, that "Under the Tarnished Dome" came out in 1989 and we went on and won 11 straight.  Okay, sir spit-a-lot, it was 1993 you asshole.  Please, besides for not spitting on my living room floor, get your shit straight.  I am Michigan fan and I knew when the book came out.  What a douchebag!

"Forty-two Big Ten Championships!"

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:38 PM | Is?, how about always has (Score:1)
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Is?, how about always has been.

cheat, cheat, and cheat some more, and when you get caught, do the right thing, lie!

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:40 PM | How about "once again proves himself to be" (Score:1)
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"Forty-two Big Ten Championships!"

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:14 PM | Riveting…Please watch (Score:1)
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Riveting…Please watch out for SpreadGuru’s next two post.  “Water is Wet” and “Studies Show the Sky is Blue.” 

 

Sorry

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:40 PM | yes (Score:1)
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He is the only one who picks ND every game to win. I want him out there casting that negative light on that school. Remember, he is considered there good ole days

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November 12th, 2010 at 8:14 AM | Negitive (Score:1)
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Beno Cook and Lou are on the same ND medication. ND gotta chance every year and every Irish QB is a Heisman winner.

Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:41 PM | Hey, another ESPN guy says something stupid (Score:1)
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and gains more publicity for ESPN by people posting threads on message boards about it.  They certainly know how to manipulate their audience.

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:19 PM | Yeah I'm sure ESPN is rolling (Score:1)
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Yeah I'm sure ESPN is rolling in all that "overblown outrage on sports forums" dough. You really think Disney's grand plan to increase ESPN's value (in the billions now) involves Lou Holtz misremembering book publishing dates so people will get upset? 

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November 11th, 2010 at 10:14 PM | It's called word-of-mouth advertising. (Score:1)
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And getting viewers to advertise ESPN themselves without compensation is pretty good business.  They make money by attracting more viewers.  They gain viewers by getting people to talk about the stuff they heard on ESPN.

There is very little that comes out of anyone's mouth spontaneously.  It's all very tightly scripted.  They say what they say for very good reasons.

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November 12th, 2010 at 10:20 AM | It's not all "tightly (Score:1)
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It's not all "tightly scripted." I agree that the personalities are chosen for their general dispositions and fame (we know Lou Holtz will act like this) but how out of touch do you have to be to think that what these guys are saying is "tightly scripted"? They are speaking, more or less, spontaneously. 

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:44 PM | INSERT OVERREACTION TO THIS (Score:1)
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INSERT OVERREACTION TO THIS POST HERE!

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:36 PM | this is news? (Score:1)
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How?  The OP's title has been current for over a decade.

Go Blue!!!!!!

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:44 PM | Someday people will stop (Score:1)
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Someday people will stop being surprised by this.

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:41 PM | I don't know, if people (Score:1)
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I don't know, if people haven't figured it out by now they are probably deaf and blind so they never well.

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:46 PM | Don't hide your feelings tell us how you really feel. (Score:1)
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Don't hide your feelings - tell us how you really feel

Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:48 PM | I can't wait to see Holtz (Score:1)
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I can't wait to see Holtz pick ND to beat Utah on Saturday, then watch Mark May's head explode.

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:48 PM | I will be videotaping this (Score:1)
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I will be videotaping this for sure! 

"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"

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November 12th, 2010 at 12:33 AM | Videotape? (Score:1)
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It's all about DVRs now man.

I'm going to go send some electronic mail now on my PC with Windows 95

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:53 PM | Honestly, I don't think (Score:1)
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Honestly, I don't think that's as far fetched as you make it sound. Utah's a solid team, but I haven't seen enough out of them to immediately think they will roll ND. They've beat a bunch of lower level BCS-AQ teams, which isn't much different than Tulsa, who just barely beat ND. I really think Utah is VASTLY overrated. They came off a good year in '09 and rode that reputation and an opening week, "big win" over a then ranked Pittsburgh team to where they are today.

Do I really think Utah will lose? No.

Would I be surprised? No, not at all.

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:03 PM | Completely agree on your (Score:1)
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Completely agree on your opinion of Utah.  Everyone thought the pitt game was huge at the time, but looking at everything know, pitt isn't the team people thought they would be.  There was no reason they should have ever been top 5, let alone top 15.

 

But I still think ND without Crist gets rolled.

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:25 PM | Pitt may not be the team (Score:1)
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Pitt may not be the team everyone thought they would be but since they play in the worst Big 6 conference in America, they can still make a BCS bowl. Which is downright ridiculous if you ask me but who cares. I'm just some guy on a Michigan message board.

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:55 PM | (No subject) (Score:1)
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I wish Cronenburg was still making movies.

Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:42 PM | You scared me for a sec. (Score:1)
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You scared me for a sec. Cronenberg is alive and well and not retired and still making movies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Dangerous_Method due 2011

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November 11th, 2010 at 10:33 PM | Ha sorry didn't mean to scare (Score:1)
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Ha sorry didn't mean to scare you. Ehh besides Eastern Promises I haven't really liked his work since the 80's. He had that great string of movies from Scanners to The Fly.

Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:57 PM | Has he picked against ND yet? (Score:1)
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Has he picked against ND yet?

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:55 PM | Lou Holtz is a frickin idiot... (Score:1)
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You just figured this out?

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:55 PM | A Story and or Interview (Score:1)
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Can happen over a period of time before a book is published, so maybe, the interview happened in 1989, possibly. I presume Tony Rice is noted in this book as well and he was no where near still playing in 1993 (McDougal, maybe). So maybe there was an excerpt or a leak that gain notice to Holtz and staff in during any point in time. Whether you like Lou or no, whether he wasnt precise with his words in a short span of time. I think what he was talking about could be further away from what your complaining about.

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:56 PM | Then why are you watching him (Score:1)
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Then why are you watching him on tv? I think Dr Phil is a tool, but I also don't watch his tv show. (Does he even have a tv show anymore?) In short, don't feed the tv trolls.

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:56 PM | Thank you! (Score:1)
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This is home...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgijdypJUEQ

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November 11th, 2010 at 8:57 PM | Wait a minute! (Score:1)
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Lou Holtz is an idiot?!!!

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November 12th, 2010 at 10:35 AM | Every school he left went on probation (Score:1)
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following his tenure at that given school except for one.  I wonder why THEY never went on probation......

...... nd ......

bullsh!t

Born in Oklahoma
Raised in Ohio
Escaped to Meechigan

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:06 PM | OH MAN! YOU TOLD HIM! LOU (Score:1)
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OH MAN! YOU TOLD HIM! LOU HOLTZ DONE FUCKED UP!

Fucking magnets, how do they work?

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:09 PM | Dr Lou (Score:1)
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i also liked the espn Dr Lou segment when holtz is talking about integrity and how student athletes should make the right choices (ie. players shouldn't take money and cheat the system), when he left every school he coached under a cloud of probation or shadiness.

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November 12th, 2010 at 12:01 PM | He has never coached under probation (Score:1)
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So it was obviously the fault of the guys following him.

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:16 PM | And your point is... (Score:1)
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And your point is...

Upholding maize and blue honor in a warm climate

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:42 PM | Of the many reasons to (Score:1)
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Of the many reasons to think Lou Holthshz is an idiot, I'm not sure incorrectly stating the publishing date of a book cracks the top 100.  Though it is stupid, given the book in question.

Colors That Float

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:34 PM | Mark may is going to (Score:1)
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punch Holtz one day. I can see it coming soon.

Go Blue!

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:39 PM | I feel like you could find a (Score:1)
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I feel like you could find a better example of his idiocy than him getting his years mixed up. 

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:43 PM | Mark May/Lou Holtz (Score:1)
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This is what Mark May thinks about Lou Holtz's love of ND.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT0WU8y4QlE

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November 11th, 2010 at 10:44 PM | Bad parent (Score:1)
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Ok, maybe I am a bad parent, but the vid had my 12 year old son and I laughing our asses off.

 
 

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:51 PM | Lou Holtz is loyal to a (Score:1)
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Lou Holtz is loyal to a fault, and he isn't fit to be an analyst for ESPN.  He speaks with a lisp.  That doesn't make the guy an idiot.  I don't get all the hate for the guy, honestly.  Ya, he coached for Notre Dame, and he is a homer.  So what?  He is a stellar example of what kind of person a coach should be, imo – something in much shorter supply these days.

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:55 PM | What? (Score:1)
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He is a stellar example of what kind of person a coach should be, imo – something in much shorter supply these days.

Every program Holtz coached went on NCAA probation.  (And yes, it was for more serious offenses than stretching too long.)  Don't believe his "aw, shucks" act.  The guy was a rogue coach.

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:57 PM | Need to check the record... (Score:1)
HHW
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Arkansas, Minnesota, ND, and South Carolina all had issues with the NCAA during his tenure.  He has no credibility when discussing NCAA infractions.

I just destroyed that toilet with a huge Rosenberg.

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November 11th, 2010 at 11:06 PM | I certainly was no fan of (Score:1)
Bill in Birmingham
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I certainly was no fan of Holtz when he coached at Notre Dame, but it is hard to argue against the fact that he was a damn good coach. But the truth of the matter is that he has been embarrassing himself for years with his off the wall predicitions and generally goofy behavior. He has become the college football version of Howard Beale.

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:58 PM | And water is wet (Score:1)
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And water is wet

 

 

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November 12th, 2010 at 1:30 AM | "Sky is blue.  Women have (Score:1)
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"Sky is blue.  Women have secrets ... Who gives a f@#$?"

"If you shoot me, you're liable to lose a lot of those humanitarian awards."

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:59 PM | Lou who? (Score:1)
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Lou who?

Status: Pending

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November 11th, 2010 at 9:59 PM | Under the Tarnished Dome? (Score:1)
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What Holtz didn't say is that the book pretty much paralyzed him as a recruiter, and his program was never the same afterwards, nor was he ever able to get any subsequent program to the level he had previously attained.  That book was the greatest aid to negative recruiting that was ever writter.  All opposing coaches had to do was buy a copy of the book for parents of recruits and highlight the passages where Holtz allegedly would pretend injured players didn't exist. 

According to the book, he wouldn't even say "hi" to an injured player or acknowledge his presence until he was able to get back on the field.  Whether it was true or not, I think it's safe to say that it had a major role in his inability to pull in top five recruiting classes from then on.

 

 

 

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November 12th, 2010 at 6:44 PM | ND also raised its academic (Score:1)
jmblue
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ND also raised its academic standards around that time.  Their 1988 championship team had a bunch of Prop 48 non-qualifiers on it.

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November 11th, 2010 at 10:24 PM | I just read the title and (Score:1)
Calvin
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I just read the title and wondered, what is it this time?

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November 11th, 2010 at 10:43 PM | Isn't it about time (Score:1)
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that this post was turned into a "sticky"?

Love & Hate are horns on the same goat.

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