Lou Holtz just said on the ESPN pre-game, in reference to the Cam Newton story, that "Under the Tarnished Dome" came out in 1989 and we went on and won 11 straight. Okay, sir spit-a-lot, it was 1993 you asshole. Please, besides for not spitting on my living room floor, get your shit straight. I am Michigan fan and I knew when the book came out. What a douchebag!
Lou Holtz is a frickin' idiot...
Is?, how about always has been.
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He is the only one who picks ND every game to win. I want him out there casting that negative light on that school. Remember, he is considered there good ole days
Beno Cook and Lou are on the same ND medication. ND gotta chance every year and every Irish QB is a Heisman winner.
and gains more publicity for ESPN by people posting threads on message boards about it. They certainly know how to manipulate their audience.
Yeah I'm sure ESPN is rolling in all that "overblown outrage on sports forums" dough. You really think Disney's grand plan to increase ESPN's value (in the billions now) involves Lou Holtz misremembering book publishing dates so people will get upset?
And getting viewers to advertise ESPN themselves without compensation is pretty good business. They make money by attracting more viewers. They gain viewers by getting people to talk about the stuff they heard on ESPN.
There is very little that comes out of anyone's mouth spontaneously. It's all very tightly scripted. They say what they say for very good reasons.
It's not all "tightly scripted." I agree that the personalities are chosen for their general dispositions and fame (we know Lou Holtz will act like this) but how out of touch do you have to be to think that what these guys are saying is "tightly scripted"? They are speaking, more or less, spontaneously.
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How? The OP's title has been current for over a decade.
Someday people will stop being surprised by this.
I don't know, if people haven't figured it out by now they are probably deaf and blind so they never well.
Don't hide your feelings - tell us how you really feel
I can't wait to see Holtz pick ND to beat Utah on Saturday, then watch Mark May's head explode.
I will be videotaping this for sure!
It's all about DVRs now man.
I'm going to go send some electronic mail now on my PC with Windows 95
Honestly, I don't think that's as far fetched as you make it sound. Utah's a solid team, but I haven't seen enough out of them to immediately think they will roll ND. They've beat a bunch of lower level BCS-AQ teams, which isn't much different than Tulsa, who just barely beat ND. I really think Utah is VASTLY overrated. They came off a good year in '09 and rode that reputation and an opening week, "big win" over a then ranked Pittsburgh team to where they are today.
Do I really think Utah will lose? No.
Would I be surprised? No, not at all.
Completely agree on your opinion of Utah. Everyone thought the pitt game was huge at the time, but looking at everything know, pitt isn't the team people thought they would be. There was no reason they should have ever been top 5, let alone top 15.
But I still think ND without Crist gets rolled.
Pitt may not be the team everyone thought they would be but since they play in the worst Big 6 conference in America, they can still make a BCS bowl. Which is downright ridiculous if you ask me but who cares. I'm just some guy on a Michigan message board.
I wish Cronenburg was still making movies.
You scared me for a sec. Cronenberg is alive and well and not retired and still making movies.
Ha sorry didn't mean to scare you. Ehh besides Eastern Promises I haven't really liked his work since the 80's. He had that great string of movies from Scanners to The Fly.
Has he picked against ND yet?
You just figured this out?
Can happen over a period of time before a book is published, so maybe, the interview happened in 1989, possibly. I presume Tony Rice is noted in this book as well and he was no where near still playing in 1993 (McDougal, maybe). So maybe there was an excerpt or a leak that gain notice to Holtz and staff in during any point in time. Whether you like Lou or no, whether he wasnt precise with his words in a short span of time. I think what he was talking about could be further away from what your complaining about.
Then why are you watching him on tv? I think Dr Phil is a tool, but I also don't watch his tv show. (Does he even have a tv show anymore?) In short, don't feed the tv trolls.
Lou Holtz is an idiot?!!!
following his tenure at that given school except for one. I wonder why THEY never went on probation......
...... nd ......
OH MAN! YOU TOLD HIM! LOU HOLTZ DONE FUCKED UP!
i also liked the espn Dr Lou segment when holtz is talking about integrity and how student athletes should make the right choices (ie. players shouldn't take money and cheat the system), when he left every school he coached under a cloud of probation or shadiness.
So it was obviously the fault of the guys following him.
And your point is...
Of the many reasons to think Lou Holthshz is an idiot, I'm not sure incorrectly stating the publishing date of a book cracks the top 100. Though it is stupid, given the book in question.
punch Holtz one day. I can see it coming soon.
I feel like you could find a better example of his idiocy than him getting his years mixed up.
This is what Mark May thinks about Lou Holtz's love of ND.
Ok, maybe I am a bad parent, but the vid had my 12 year old son and I laughing our asses off.
Lou Holtz is loyal to a fault, and he isn't fit to be an analyst for ESPN. He speaks with a lisp. That doesn't make the guy an idiot. I don't get all the hate for the guy, honestly. Ya, he coached for Notre Dame, and he is a homer. So what? He is a stellar example of what kind of person a coach should be, imo – something in much shorter supply these days.
He is a stellar example of what kind of person a coach should be, imo – something in much shorter supply these days.
Every program Holtz coached went on NCAA probation. (And yes, it was for more serious offenses than stretching too long.) Don't believe his "aw, shucks" act. The guy was a rogue coach.
Arkansas, Minnesota, ND, and South Carolina all had issues with the NCAA during his tenure. He has no credibility when discussing NCAA infractions.
I certainly was no fan of Holtz when he coached at Notre Dame, but it is hard to argue against the fact that he was a damn good coach. But the truth of the matter is that he has been embarrassing himself for years with his off the wall predicitions and generally goofy behavior. He has become the college football version of Howard Beale.
And water is wet
"Sky is blue. Women have secrets ... Who gives a f@#$?"
What Holtz didn't say is that the book pretty much paralyzed him as a recruiter, and his program was never the same afterwards, nor was he ever able to get any subsequent program to the level he had previously attained. That book was the greatest aid to negative recruiting that was ever writter. All opposing coaches had to do was buy a copy of the book for parents of recruits and highlight the passages where Holtz allegedly would pretend injured players didn't exist.
According to the book, he wouldn't even say "hi" to an injured player or acknowledge his presence until he was able to get back on the field. Whether it was true or not, I think it's safe to say that it had a major role in his inability to pull in top five recruiting classes from then on.
ND also raised its academic standards around that time. Their 1988 championship team had a bunch of Prop 48 non-qualifiers on it.
I just read the title and wondered, what is it this time?
that this post was turned into a "sticky"?
careful, you'll get spit on...it's a weapon
is the Cam Newton of college coaches; he has cheated at every place he has been. Thathh
thehh facthhh Jackthhh.
Lou is an back stabbing dishonest jackass. Just ask the people in Minnesota....told them he would be there to win a championship and left the moment ND called. Probably can't blame him, but the people here in MN haven't let it go and never will. I refuse to watch coverage with him on it.
Leave my grandpa alone A HOLE
I think he's entertaining as hell, albeit probably in ways he's not intending. I don't take him seriously, so he doesn't bother me at all.
I don't know how anyone can read Under the Tarnished Dome and ever look at Lou Holtz with any degree of seriousness ever again. I know that's how I felt about it, and I didn't even like Holtz before I read it.
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