MSU Coaches after 30 games
Nick Saban 17 Wins 12 Losses 1 Tie
Bobby Williams 16 Wins 14 Losses
John L. Smith 17 Wins 13 Losses
Mark Dantonio 17 Wins 13 Losses
She's the same cute little girl we've always known. See ya next week little sister!
thats kind something weird right there.
That is a pretty crazy stat.
It's one of the most remarkable things about college football. Teams always revert to their median performance. It doesn't matter whether it's Sparty, Indiana or Ohio State. After one or two unusual years they revert to whatever level they're used to, whether it's bad, good, or average.
Sparty, for instance, just can't help being average.
I think average may be giving them an awful lot of credit in the last 20 years, I think mediocre is more true overall in that timespan...
what is the difference between "average" and "mediocre?" They are the same thing.
.... sleeping dogs lie?
Yeah, it's called "regression to the mean" or something like that. You can apply it to most anything in our world.
Was at the Sparty game today- they looked pretty bad. Mainly, the quarterback play and defense was responsible for eventually giving UW a 38-17 lead halfway through the 4th quarter. Cousins is not impressive in terms of decision making, and both him and Nichols (who came in near the end, in garbage time) have pretty good looking arms but they both made bad decisions that resulted in turnovers (Cousins' being the worst, of course, as his came while the game was still a game)
MSU's defense, honestly, didn't seem to hold up long at the point of attack. By the second quarter, John Clay and Zach Brown were taking pretty much 4-5 yards each time they got the ball, and well, they could NOT cover Garrett Graham (the tight end). Scott Tolzien is not anything special in terms of being a QB, either. Conversely, the defense that looked shaky against NIU and Fresno State looked like solid brick against MSU.
Basically, against Sparty, we can't turn the ball over. Sparty turned the ball over 4 times against UW and paid dearly for it. We can't have that turn around and happen to us next week.
Yeah, but this time it's TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
I used that line on high school girlfriends when I screwed up...
Well to be fair, Saban's last season was a 10-2 season with a January bowl win over Florida* until he left for a bigger paycheck. I think Saban had that team on the upswing and could have kept that momentum for the most part had he stayed.
*yes I understand that Williams coached the bowl game, but it was still the team that Saban built.
He made some remarks about always being #2 in Michigan.
Poor Nick. He had no idea that Mark Dantonio would own the state.
Saban left because of a lot of interference on the part of the MSU administration. It was when the NCAA was beginning to trend toward academic personnel having more say in athletic departments nationwide. IIRC, Saban was especially incensed with John DiBiaggio, their former president.
Here's a Knight Commission quote from DiBiaggio concerning coaching salaries:
"They should be paid at levels that are more reflective of what university employees are paid. ... Of course, not more than the president. And not more than other people who have comparable responsibilities, (like) deans. I don't care what you want to use as your barometer."
Saban knew MSU wasn't willing to commit the resources neccessary to compete on a national level or to even beat UM more than three out of ten times a decade, had personal emnity with the MSU administration over their "meddling" in athletic department affairs, and was definitely tired of playing second fiddle in "his own state."
Consequently, what he referred to as his "dream job" when he was hired became another stepping stone in what has been a great, if controversial, career so far. What I find humorous is that MSU pretty much blew their opportunity to possibly eclipse the school and football program by which they have measured themselves for about a hundred years.
MSU: long may they blow.
And with respect to the last three, they seemed to win quite a bit with the last guy's players, but then couldn't continue the success with their own recruits. It seems crazy, but MSU should keep the last coach around for recruiting only.
Without John L. Smith recruits Javon Ringer and Brian Hoyer Dantonio is struggling
MSU actually had a Top 20 class in recruiting for 2009, and are in the running for some real good recruits for 2010.
Dantonio really does seem to be struggling this year though, luckily for him they just gave him and Izzo contract extensions through 2035 or whatever this year.