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I don't think they changed Les at all actually
national champs baby
Patrick Hruby is doing God's work.
first comment: "EVERY ATHLETE HAS ASPIRATIONS OF WINNING AND WE HAVE OUR FAVORITES BUT IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO OTHER STUDENTS ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS, TOO!"
stupid Pistons and their refusal to tank properly
rundown of Michigan's riser
needs moar usage
so much for that
This list is completely arbitrary and not a genuine analysis of the relative merits of state fossils.
will be michigan's highest pick in a while
money has to go somewhere
I am only motivated by people who have no opinion about me.
the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection
but I thought that draft was supposed to be incredibly loaded?
lol @ the Lions moving.
I wish Lions Ownership would be discussing firing Lions Ownership.
Yes. For the love of everything. Get us new owners. The Fords are the most incompetent family in the world. I wish I could be a completely stupid billionaire simply because my great grandpa was a genius.
The Mccaskey family says hi!
Obviously William Clay Ford Sr. hasn't been a good owner but you could give his son a chance.
His son who they tried to put in charge of Ford Motor and quickly realized that he had no idea what he's doing, and sent him back to play with his father's real life train set that is the Lions?
A gross exaggeration of what happened. Bill Ford Jr. had a lot of really solid ideas for Ford that were way ahead of their time (like developing hybrids and getting into the public transportation business). Ford was in a shit spiral and bringing in a first time CEO was probably a really, really awful idea. And Ford himself stood aside in favor of someone with more experience.
The guy's an MIT grad, I'm pretty sure he can figure what it takes to get an NFL team running smoothly.
When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing. -- Bo Schembechler
and start a franchise in Grand Rapids? Afterall, the Rampage were a better team than the Lions during that span until it folded. Build a stadium on the west side of the state and have the DeVos's run it. Their track record is much better than the Ford family.
Overrated Edit: west is the best, east is the least, central is mental and the UP stinks!
I would love a Grand Rapids franchise. It's a pain to drive 3 hours to the east side for every major sporting event.
Yeah having the DeVoses own a sports team is an awesome idea. Amway logos on the jerseys, just exactly what I want associated with my state.
But let's face it, the wealth, power and influence in the state are no longer on the east side. Even tne population is shifting toward the west. It only makes sense to put the sports teams where the people and resources are. Detroit may rise again some day, but it won't be in my lifetime.
This isn't based on anything tangible. All of the wealth and power in this state are firmly entrenched in Oakland County, and everywhere outside of Detroit itself in the Detroit area posted growth at the last census. Grand Rapdisites can keep on dreaming, but odds are much better that Southeastern Michigan continues it's evolution into a polycentric urban area ala the Ruhr area of Germany.
From the OP: "Mayhew put this roster together, and has to shoulder as much blame as anyone."
Sure about that? The Fords (as others have noted, the common thread in all the dysfunction of the past fifty years) are legendary for their micromanaging. Don't assume that they weren't calling the shots on some of the picks and roster moves. It has happened before (three straight WR as first round picks, etc.).
Yes, you're right, my entire topic should've been on firing the Ford's. While I completely agree that in the past, ownership has influenced draft choices, see Joe Harrington. But, for the sake of argument, now that Ford Jr. is more involved in the day to day operations, I think every draft since 09 has been Mayhew and company.
Can't. NFL owners are not allowed to own other pro teams if I'm not mistaken.
Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. - Ephesians 6:11
Except he said "in a dream world."
Michigan Resurgent? Michigan Resurgent!
The beatings will continue until the uniforms improve!
Saints owner Tom Benson bought the N.O. Hornets recently. Also, T.B. Bucs owner Malcom Glazer also owns Man U. Not a U.S. pro team, but a pro team nonetheless.
Never make eye contact while eating a banana.
You are. NFL owners can't own teams in competing NFL markets, but they can own teams in their own markets and in markets without NFL teams (Paul Allen owns the Seahawks and the Trail Blazers, Tom Benson owns the Saints and the Hornets)
And if memory serves, Kraft owns the MLS team in Boston as well.
That's a different story... soccer is exempted from ownership restrictions altogether, so any NFL owner can own any soccer team.
Fuck it. Hire Nick Saban. After he skullfucks Notre Dame, of course.
I don't think Schwartz is going this season. Next year, OTOH, the hot seat is going to burn his asscheeks off.
We should hire Nick Saban as our head coach and Chip Kelly as our offensive coordinator.
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler
if Saban would be on-board w/ Chip Kellys extremely unsafe pace of play.
John L. Smith as HC and Charlie Weis as OC. They couldn't do any worse.
"You owe it to every man, woman, and child in the State of Michigan to beat the Buckeyes and silence their fans! Now go out there and make it happen!"
- Bo Schembechler (Result: U-M 22 OSU 0)
EDIT: Oh, oh. The dreaded double post. Don't know how that happened.
No run game in the foreseeable future. Saban won't come here.
I put the blame on Schwartz not Mayhew. The Lions have playoff level talent (not Super Bowl talent, mind you). There is no excuse for this team to be 4-11 and the amazing ways that they got to that record are mostly on Schwartz. He has no control over his team.
I didn't liked Schwartz in the begining, but after last year I came around to thinking that he might actually be the guy to bring the Lions around to respectability. Instead I sit here in Wisconsin and have to watch the Lions choke away another game against the Packers and have to listen to people bitch about the Lions being dirty.
and see how he reacts. The Fords can afford this now.
As much as I like this idea, I can't imagine Detroit fans getting behind a former OSU coach. I also can't imagine the MSU component of the Lions fans getting behind Saban.
I'm afraid your imagination is lacking. Lions fans will approve of Saban or Urban if they win. In fact, why would any Lion fans be unhappy to see Urban ditch OSU after one season? Other than among the small contingent that are also OSU fans I think he would be a popular hire.
Eating is murder.
Why not? If he wins, Detroit would be more than happy to have him. Seems to me we had a LB who personified the franchise for years and was a total buckeye from head to toe plus never let anyone forget it. He was loved and still is for his grit and passion.
if it fucks over OSU, I'm for it.
I'm imagining your avatar speaking those words, and I like it.
Seriously, I guess you are all right. If Urban would dump the Buckeyes after one year, most Michiganders would embrace it. (The Spartan contingent will still hate Saban forever, or at least until that generation dies.)
In contrast to other years, are the Lions such a laughable product now?
* Have people at skill positions (running game not included)
* Have some pieces on defense (secondary not included)
* continuity in ownership (yeah, I know its the fords)
But compared to other slots that might be opening (NYJ, Cleveland, Jacksonville) and compared to previous years, coaching the Lions might be one of the better jobs out there.
NB: Sure, I'll do it. Sign me up.
No radio. Nothing of value.
Ya I agree it is time to get rid of schwartz, lots of terrible game management and an inability to get this team to the next level with all of our talent says a lot
"What" ain't no country I ever heard of. They speak English in What?
That franchise hasn't made a wise or proactive decision in 55 years...who honestly believes that they will get this one right?
they drafted Barry and Calvin... and that is it in 55 years
Any player who can be on the Lions for over 2 decades deserves a spot in the hall of fame or at least the key to the city
This might sound arrogant, and if it is, it is. We’re Michigan.
Billy Sims was pretty good, before a knee injury ended his career.
I'll miss seeing him punch the air after squeaking a win out.
Nobody punched better, except maybe Suh. Another horrible draft pick.
You are just on a roll here
on the court.
Clean house and get bill cowher
Cowher would never go to Detroit. Being the coach of the Lions is asking to destroy your career and coaching reputation.
It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk
Great idea, but he would never come. The lions inability to ever pick up a highly regarded head coach makes me believe that our management and ownership really is that bad. No big name ever comes here. Are any of our former head coaches still head coaches on other teams? I guess if you want to revert back to being a coordinator after your years after head coaching then Detroit is the place to come.
IIRC, no former Lions head coach during Ford's ownership has ever been a head coach after departing Detroit.
Lions should at the least be looking for a new QB coach. Stafford's fundamentals, particularly his footwork and throwing motion, have regressed.