Lions open thread

Submitted by Sean Connery on
Go Lions!!!! Discuss.

GoBlueUSMC

October 2nd, 2011 at 1:43 PM ^

Backus has been called for a false start like 10 times already this year!  WHY DID WE NOT DRAFT AN OFFENSIVE TACKLE.  

Now a delay... this is getting ugly quickly.

Michael Scarn

October 2nd, 2011 at 2:30 PM ^

We drafted a tackle last year, who is currently out with a foot injury.  Starting NFL left tackles don't grow on trees, there's maybe one you can take per draft that is ready to play, and he'll usually be a top 3 pick.  Everyone else needs a couple of years to develop.

BRCE

October 2nd, 2011 at 2:41 PM ^

Jason Fox was drafted in the fourth round - that's hardly an investment.

Your post about the availability and career arc of LTs is laughable. Left tackles are drafted in the first round every year and plugged in immediately. One of the best rookie season by an LT in the last few years was from Marcus McNeil, who was drafted in the second round.

There were easily a half dozen OT prospects in last year's draft who would likely be an upgrade over Backus in the here-and-now. His play is flat-out disgraceful at this point.

Michael Scarn

October 2nd, 2011 at 3:04 PM ^

Marcus McNeil is a ridiculous example.  Save for his injuries he would certainly have been a first rounder.  Plus, why is he name people know? Because stories like his are rare.

To that point, Jason Fox was projected to be a high second rounder until an injury late his senior year.  If you feel pretty confident going into the off-season that your project will come along under the direction of a long-time (formerly mediocre, now bad) veteran, why draft someone that high? Then he gets injured in the summer and to the outside perspective it looks like you just ignored a need at LT.

Most of the tackles taken get plugged in on the right side and develop.  Do some come in and end up world-beaters that get the start sure? But the bottom line is unless someone is a freak, you don't know if they'll be ready right away because they don't consistently face elite pass rushers and complex schemes at the college level.  If you're drafting someone to play left tackle right away, you're making him essentially your franchise.  And until this year with the rookie wage scale, you're paying him ridiculous money. 

When Fairley and Leshoure get healthy people will be singing a different tune.

JT4104

October 2nd, 2011 at 1:48 PM ^

Reality is, they are still about 2 or 3 yrs away unless they can improve the OLine real fast. You still need to be able to run the ball and the lions cant. They are can still win 9-11 games this year but are going to have to win some shootouts.

GoBlueUSMC

October 2nd, 2011 at 1:52 PM ^

ya, i agree about not being able to run the ball is really hurting us.  the achilles injury to mikel leshoure really hurt us.  but our corners are getting made look silly by tony romo right now.  miles austin's backup is tearing us up.

 

My top needs for next year:

1. OG

2. OT

3. CB

Waters Demos

October 2nd, 2011 at 2:01 PM ^

You're not much for long term, steady-as-she-goes, even keeled approaches are you?

Living, dying (so to speak), distributing extreme praise and extreme blame based on every immediate moment has its advantages I suppose, but I wouldn't want that out of my coaches and players.  I also wouldn't want to live my life that way. 

True Blue Grit

October 2nd, 2011 at 1:51 PM ^

I love Backus, especially being a Michigan Man, but the one area the Lions haven't upgraded as much as they need to is the OL.  Backus has turned into a penalty machine.  Aside from that, what gives with the awful delay of game penalty?????   But hopefully, this is just another slow start for the Lions and they'll wake up soon. 

TheLastHarbaugh

October 2nd, 2011 at 1:58 PM ^

......Aaaaaannddd the Texans' season is over.

Andre Johnson's knee just gave out while he was running in the open field, and he crumpled up in a screaming mess on the ground, clutching it.