Line on the game?
I haven't seen a line on the game; google turned up nothing but a line where we are -7.5. But, looks like that webpage was from several years ago.
So I can truthfully say, I don't know who's favored. But watching these two teams, I'm going to guess we are favored like -1.5 or its close to pick'em. OSU has no passing game, and we have that secondary. They're going to have to run; IU proved you can do that against us, but it's not a guarantee. I think Rudock can carve them up, IF he gets time to throw. We aren't going to run. It's a mess, frankly. But no way should tOSU be a heavy favorite, if at all?
November 22nd, 2015 at 1:48 AM ^
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I am going to guess it will start out at Ohio State -1 or some weird shit like that.
I am not saying thats what it should be, just a guess on the initial release.
November 22nd, 2015 at 1:52 AM ^
If Zeke gets his way with the coaching decisions then we may have some IU flashbacks... gulp.
Our oline can't fuck around like they did against PSU or Bosa n co are gonna have a field day.
toss up imo.
November 22nd, 2015 at 2:44 AM ^
I know it won't happen by Elliot shouldn't play next week. You can't air your grievances like that in public, keep that shit inhouse. The way all of OSU's players leaving for the NFL behaved after the MSU game was pretty disgusting.
November 22nd, 2015 at 3:18 AM ^
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I mean, if his leg is f-ed up (that looked disgusting) or if he and Meyer decide his head or heart isn't in it...the by all means.
I could see sitting him for a half.
But if you're a coach, why not have him hit the stadium steps and sit down and have the balls to talk this out man to man and figure out where we stand?
Suspending him a game doesn't seem like it's an effective solution - especially since Barrett just got a game for a DWI.
If it's me, we go handle this shit like men and I'm going to make you uncomfortable as FUCK in the process. You're big enough to air our laundry to the media. Come be big enough to have a grown my conversation in my office, on my time and accept some grown man consequence for your actions.
Simply getting suspended isn't teaching you anything and is too convienient for any Michigan fan to suggest.
November 22nd, 2015 at 7:05 AM ^
Meyer can't make him do anything so the stadium steps quip is just niave. He is gone to the NFL.
November 22nd, 2015 at 7:13 AM ^
That's my point.
I don't suspend him...I test his manhood and loyalty to the program. Demote him and test him mentally to see if he's committed to earn his spot back.
Test him physically and see if he's going to quit on his team.
I'm testing him over and over...but only after have our man to man coversation, the way issues SHOULD be handled.
I don't think he's strongwilled enough to handle it - and that is fine. If he isn't suspend him indefinitely and let him go train for the NFL.
But to just attach an arbitrary 1 game on it like it's a speed ticket...that's not solving the problem.
I want to know how committed are you...where is your head? How loyal are you to your teammates and this program? Do you understand how to handle issues like this in the future? Are you willing to suffer to prove you want to be here?
I'm not sure I'm going to get the outcome of Elliott on the field. The choice is all on him, no one is making him play...quit if you want. But if I'm the coach, you're going to be tested like you've never been tested before and the team is going to see it. Cardale, you too...you need to prove to me you want to be here. Otherwise, just leave now.
For me, punishment is one thing...I'm not punishing you, but I'm going to test you in every way I know how. I punish for breaking the law/ and things like that. This is different.
November 22nd, 2015 at 9:55 AM ^
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November 22nd, 2015 at 7:37 AM ^
Elliott still wants to play. Meyer's got the rest of the team to worry about, not just Elliott. What would doing nothing do for team morale and discipline? That's what he needs to consider. Honestly, he'd be in a weaker position if he was worried about Elliott leaving in response.
November 22nd, 2015 at 8:08 AM ^
"Meyer can't do anything" comment. So Elliott said he's going pro? Look at recent NFL drafts to see where top running backs have been going. Unless they are special special, or a team reaches, most are seen as interchangeable.
Then, add to that the comments from yesterday (which I understand, but I don't think he phrased it or did it the right way). And, on top of that, your assumption seems to be that he could just turn down Meyer's punishment? I think there is a lot Meyer can do.
November 22nd, 2015 at 1:55 AM ^
I say it starts at OSU -4
November 22nd, 2015 at 2:00 AM ^
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November 22nd, 2015 at 2:06 AM ^
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November 22nd, 2015 at 2:23 AM ^
the line will go down.
Betcha noone pulls a Harbaugh '86 move...which Coach did in a similar situation
November 22nd, 2015 at 2:34 AM ^
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November 22nd, 2015 at 7:06 AM ^
They are also out of the playoff and with little to play for. If you think that doesn't change how a team plays take a look at LSU.
November 22nd, 2015 at 7:20 AM ^
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November 22nd, 2015 at 9:14 AM ^
If MSU loses and OSU wins out they are in the playoff, they have plenty to play for.
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November 22nd, 2015 at 8:59 AM ^
Hey, they had that pretty good first quarter against VT....
November 22nd, 2015 at 7:43 AM ^
Yes, but we know more about that team now. Obviously OSU should play better against us, but it seems quite unlikely they'll reach the level most had been expecting.
November 22nd, 2015 at 2:44 AM ^
You just know OSU is going to open it up against Michigan. That's how this year has gone. I would guess OSU -5.
Michigan is going to have to win this game on intangibles.
November 22nd, 2015 at 2:56 AM ^
so you know we're getting a crap ton of #15. And I just don't know that I believe we can stop it with Glasgow out.
As much as I am enjoying their meltdown, they still have enough talent to give the D that got carved against Minn and IU fits.
People are saying they have no passing O, but on a clear day with the speed they have at the skill positions, particularly if we start getting hammered by #15, they still have that big play capability.
Our kids are going to have to find a very different level to stand up to that - a game nearly free of mistakes - and a fight that shows yet another level of aggression.
I'd favor them, but I hope Harbaugh and Durkin can show us even more than we've seen so far.
November 22nd, 2015 at 3:10 AM ^
Other than maybe 2011, when was the last time UM was favored over OSU?
November 22nd, 2015 at 3:15 AM ^
I would guess 2005.
November 22nd, 2015 at 3:20 AM ^
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November 22nd, 2015 at 6:30 AM ^
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OSU -4 in Columbus, give us the 3 for being at home... OSU -1.
November 22nd, 2015 at 7:35 AM ^
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November 22nd, 2015 at 7:49 AM ^
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November 22nd, 2015 at 9:47 AM ^
Well, then I'll say.
-7, -4, -1 to my prediction can still stand.
November 22nd, 2015 at 7:41 AM ^
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November 22nd, 2015 at 8:16 AM ^
start somewhere around OSU-3 and then sway towards a pick or Michigan. Most public bettors rely heavily on the last thing they saw.
As a fan, and perhaps a pessimistic one at times, I just can't help but thinking that Elliott will bust through the line on some short yardage situation for a 50+ touchdown. I also expect Meyer to pull out all the stops offensively, maybe seeing Jones and Barrett on the field together, and I think Braxton Miller will throw a pass at some point as well.
November 22nd, 2015 at 8:27 AM ^
OddsShark does have the line summary yet, but their matchup summary to go with it is already up, at least most of it - the summary stats for each team are available anyway - LINK
The predicted score on their site favors OSU by only one point. I would imagine the line opens a little broader than that (as others have said, OSU -3 or thereabouts), but on a lot of algorithms, this game seems to be turning out to be a tossup. I would take that.
November 22nd, 2015 at 9:14 AM ^
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November 22nd, 2015 at 9:53 AM ^
We all know for this game the records mean nothing. Emotion plays a key element. I think it is even at this point. Since JH is coaching and the game is at AA, the line will come out UM -3. After the meltdown of the MSU game, we will see if Urban earns his money in getting the Bucks ready.
November 22nd, 2015 at 9:58 AM ^
This game has been available to bet all year as a "game of the year". Don't get too excited that's just how they bill it but there are at least a dozen "game of the year" listings for every week.
This line has bounced around and has been as high as OSU -14 (early in the year) and OSU -1 (early October before Michigan lost to MSU).
Last week it was OSU -6.5. I expect it will be OSU -4.5 when it opens around 4pm today.
Last five times Michigan was favored over OSU
2011 Michigan -8.5 (SU WIN and ATS Win)
2004 Michigan -4 (SU/ATS LOSS)
2003 Michigan -7 (SU/ATS WIN)
2001 Michigan -8 (SU/ATS LOSS)
1999 Michigan -11.5 (SU WIN / ATS LOSS)