Here is there matchup over the whole game. SIAP but I searched and didn't see it:
edit: sorry it's below
1:04 and 2:06 are possibly the slowest and least effective spin moves of all time.
for pointing that out. I would have never noticed, but now I have had myself a couple of chuckles at Tom's expense.
I would definitely not classify those moves as explosive.
You obviously never saw me play defensive end in high school.
"He's gonna try to go outside again, and I don't think it's gonna work."
That was great blocking by the o.line on that big throw to get within fg range at the end. lewan owned him. d.robs foot work was incorrect on the missed throw to gallon. get your technique down son.
true about denard's footwork on the miss to gallon, but you can see that he also throws off his backfoot on the final pass that gets us in field goal range
gotta take the bad with the good
On the replay of that, it looks like Denard is fitting in the throw between two defenders and Gallon didn't do a great job of sitting down in the hole. Perhaps that one is not necessarily on Denard.
The Donkey Rodeo and pancake breakfast @ 0:20 is by far my favorite. Gholston is so terrible. It's great.
Gholston was completely ineffective the entire game. Either his draft stock is way too high, or Lewan deserves more attention than he's already getting.
I hope to see the same match up next yr.
He has no moves at all, just bull rushes and the slowest spin move ever...what a waste just like his cousins.
My favorite Gholston moment was when he was completely stone walled by AJ Williams.
Where's the threat?
You racist bastard.
in my opinion.
forgave Lewan for calling him names. He didn't even try to break his arm this year.
There are Rotisseries that spin faster than Tom Gholston.
By fun, I mean not fun. My dad's rotisserie has some crappy plastic piece in it that always melts after a month or so of usage (obvious design to create the need for further rotisserie purchases). I believe a metal piece was fabricated by my dad/brother to replace it. Not sure what I'm trying to say. I guess Gholston is the plastic piece.
He has the work ethic of cousin vernon.......
And the pad level of a leaping tacopants.
My favorite gholston moment was after the final play. When all the other tool off their helmets, he strapped his on. He was afraid to show his face. Watch the replay.
I just don't understand it.
He had the wind knocked out of his head vs OSU. But other than that I don't know. Maybe an injury during packaging class...
And Gholston discover that his MSU meal plan covered donuts and chocolate cake
lineman this whole video which i usually dont do (my eyes usually follow the pass/ball carrier) and other than the o-line's excellent play i noticed that denard has really, really improved his footwork in the pocket. he's pretty instinctive at side stepping the rush and sliding in the pocket, etc.
nice to see.
Lewan was handling Gholston well all game, and really, the whole offensive line was effective in giving Denard time to work, I thought, as well as opening gaps for a few long runs. As for Gholston, the only sack this year was against CMU and, now and again, I think you actually have to shed a block if you want to actually be effective as an edge rusher. Somewhere around the 4:00 mark, even Elliott Mealer knocks him back a yard or two. Nice to see others get involved in the "Whatever, William" sweepstakes there. Gholston is just not an explosive playmaker, but that's hard when you only sort of have one move.
I believe you mean the "Whatever, Tom" sweepstakes
You talking about Tom Gholston ?
Today's Tom Gholston
Not so much mean mean stride
They move Gholston to the other side away from Lewan a lot of the game. Do they do alot or was it to keep him away from Lewan?
No, that's just Gholston's position. It has nothing to do with Lewan
Poor Taylor Lewan. Did you notice how many hands to to the face penalties should of been called against Gholston. He's the one that said Lewan played dirty. RIGHT!
someone should post this over at RCMB and solicit comment. I'd be curious what kind of reaction it drew.
There was actually a thread on RCMB on Saturday night after the game bitching about how Gholston is terrible this year and should not even think about going pro. A lot of people in the thread were saying that Worthy was responsible for all of Gholston's success. They even had people acknowledge that he wasn't all that great last year, but had an amazing bowl game which led to the slurp fest this offseason.
Fail!!! Replied without reading the whole thread and the response directly below yours says the same thing as mine. Apologies
"there was a thread on RCMB bitching"
Even the lunatic homers at RCMB had a thread after the game about Gholston being pwned by Lewan, well except for the few who complain after every game that the refs aren't fair, they hate State, and if they called even half of the obvious holding calls, State would be undefeated and Gholston would be an All American.
(Btw, their is an editing issue in the OP.)
Watch the Omameh block starting at 1:24. He gets tripped from behind and continues blocking and driving Marcus Rush back while he's on his knees.
Patty O'mameh is an awesome irish name, too.
I noticed that during the game and was amazed at how well he did even when on his knees...that was a great play on his part.
So much for that pre-season All-American, first round draft pick hype, Gholston.
I hate to be "that guy" but check the aftermath of the pass to Vincent Smith right around the 1:00 mark. Looks like Tom runs into the pile after Smith is down and works him over with his knees a bit. Classy guy...
Worthy made Gholston last year. Tom is no worthy.
I don't like the Sparty but this isn't a fair game to evaluate his pass rush. It's clear he wasn't going upfield by design so he could pinch down when Denard stepped forward to run. State plays Denard to stop the run on every play.
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Don't take this the wrong way, but every time you post I get excited because I think Brodie is back and then I get sad because it's just you.
I caught the pregame coverage on satellite radio, of course I could only find the MSU radio coverage. Anyway, they referred to Lewan as "the Convtroversial Left Tackle"
To Tom's defense, he was playing the entire game with the wind knocked out of him.
Why did you edit out all of Tom's sacks? MSU is going to report you to the Big Ten.
I thought Taylor Lewan played a very solid game. I didn't see exactly what he did for that personal foul (which set us back deep in our own zone) on the first drive, because I was there, not watching any tv replay, and he was away from the play.
But let's give a hell of a lot of credit to our other tackle, Michael Schofield. Because MSU's defense flips to the field side on every down, Schofield was lined up against Gholston as often as Lewan was, and Gholston had no more success versus Schofield.
I actually didn't think Gholston was awful; he was getting some pressure on Denard even without any spectacular sacks or personal fouls. He was in on a bunch of tackles. And yeah, I think Gholston is a filthy football player. Thanks to our entire O-line, not just Lewan, Gholston looked pretty ordinary.
If I remember correctly, Lewan's personal foul on the opening drive was a late hit when he blocked someone at the end of the play. He really tossed some poor guy just as the play was ending. The lateness of it was kind of borderline, from what I remember, but I think the refs were trying to put their foot down early.
I agree. People have fun insulting him but the more times I watch this the more impressed I am by Sparties game. He had contain responsibility and had to be prepared to pinch down. You're generally not going to get much rush when doing that because if you get to far upfield Denard is gone, if you go to hard inside Denard is gone. He only lost either responsibility about 5 times all game(the most significant being the 44 yard run where he went too hard upfield). He wasn't playing a stat game but what he was doing allowed State to play Denard as they do. It's rare that a DE is athletic enough to maintain both responsibilities against someone as athletic as Denard. It reminds me of why Peppers gives Vick fits. Great game by Tom, no. But we only put 12 on the board and he played a critical role in that.
Edit-for some reason this didn't reply where it was intended.
If Gholston "played a critical role" in shutting down the UM offense, then I must have watched the wrong video of the game.
1:34-1:36 of the above Taylor Lewan video.
Patrick Omameh drive blocking. ON HIS KNEES.
I love how after he finally completes that rotisserrie spin move, he's honestly surprised to see Lewan standing there waiting for him. He did seem to have a step on Lewan on a couple plays with a speed rush, but luckily Denard felt the pressure and stepped up into the pocket.
when he's unblocked. When even one guy blocks him, he's essentially neutralized. I'm amazed that they don't stunt him more.
BTW: Noticed this at the game, but while the anthem was playing and being sung, Tom raised his arms and helmet up 30 seconds before the end of the song (hard to miss his long ass arms) and started clapping them over his head and jawing to his teammates. He sure was pumped up and you could tell by his performance.
The funny thing is he will probably still go pro after this year, LeVeon, too. It's the Spartan thing to do.
When leaving the field, entering the tunnel after warmups, Gholston held up his hands to the earholes of his helmet to gesture, "I can't hear you; can you yell at me louder?" When re-entering the field just before the game, he did much of the same thing. He is something of a player version of Dantonio and Narduzzi. The kid is wound very, very tight from the perspective of trashtalking. I'm not exactly sure how opposing fans can use it to Gholston's disadvantage (!?), but I wish I knew.
I kind of feel like Gholsten played the same role Craig Roe is playing for Michigan.
State does an amazing job of staying disciplined, staying in their lanes and occupying their blockers to let their LB's run free. I think if you put a camera on the other end, Rush?, you would see similar results.
I will say as a pass rusher Gholsten seems disappointing.
This was awesome.
I'm the first to admit my knowledge of football technique is low ... so this video gave me a reason to take some time and actually focus on the interaction, play-after-play, between a LT and a DE.
Someone with better knowledge of this stuff correct me, but it seems to me Lewan is really good at (a) keeping his legs out for better stability, (b) lots of foot movement with really quick lateral motion, (c) keeping his shoulders squared to the DE, and (d) pushing the DE away from the play, even if that means pushing in a wide arc.
I only saw one play where Gholston got around Lewan ... but ultimately it did little harm because the play was already winding down by the time Gholston go by.
If what Lewan did in that game is a good example of quality LT play, then this game we call football is even more fascinating to me now than before. Freakin' awesome exercise in watching the details of a game.
That's how you shut down the All American.*
* preseason award hype is crap.
As for the missed Denard-to-Gallon pass, the more I watch it the more it looks like he was trying to throw it behind the ref while Gallon kept running. It wasn't a great throw, but Gallon could have slowed down a bit and given him the bigger window.
This is criminal. But remember guys, Gholston is still good, teams are just keying in on him.....
But what a block by Joe Reynolds on Fitz's big run. Cut him then jumped to his feet to get some more. Terrific stuff.
was qwned. And to think Taylor will be back next year.
I saw Gholston limp a few times.