Football Display Case
i find this extremely interesting
i may have altered the title
i thought this was america
like I said on twitter: that was almost as intense as Iowa NIT games
...talks about how UConn hasn't been in contact and how they're out. (HT: UMHoops)
Jalen, Burke, and Simmons.
Mike Hart the heavy favorite in the trolling competition
just what the Pistons need: a third string center. Joe Dumars was replaced by a mean ol' alien a few years back you guys.
this would be a close approximation of hypothetical graduation speech
no you guys they're just super pumped about COLLLLLLLLLLLLEGE
not a surprise
premature congrats. One thing we can be sure of: he'll take fewer asinine penalties than Abdelkader
Thanks to ugly transitions between Fulmer/Kiffin/Dooley/Davis, Tennessee is on the edge of APR penalties for football.
i approve of this message
I don't think this letter reflects too highly on the man. I actually happen to agree with much of what he says in the letter, but his smug, condescending tone is unfortunate.
"You will suffer humiliation when the team from my area defeats the team from your area." -- The Onion
and I'm glad he's a former UM athlete. But if I had a kid in little league and got a letter like this, the words "control freak" would pop to mind. It was a little too much. Plus, let's face it, if he had kept every word in there the same but replaced "my Christian faith" with "my [other] faith," watch the fireworks ensue and the kids get pulled off the team.
"You know, for a bartender/bookie, you're pretty judgmental."
That's exactly why he sent the letter, though. He wanted to make it clear to the parents beforehand and if they didn't want that he wouldn't be the coach.
Whatcha gonna do, little brother?
From a kid's perspective (18 on saturday), I loved when my coaches were tough on my team as it brought focus. When coaches are lax, it tends to end with playing for "fun," or messing around. This letter sounds pretty legit. Where was he immediately before coaching the Cards??? No way little league to MLB?
The Cardinals job is his first time managing, although he did spend a few years as a special assistant to the GM.
yea... a bit overkill. He would have been better suited writing about 2 paragraphs and just saying be respectful at the games.
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler
$2 says that parents still yelled at the umpires.
$2? Come on man, let's not get carried away.
I did several of his games over the past 3 or 4 years.
He was so even keeled you couldn't tell if he was winning or losing. and the parents never said a word.
He coached his kids. Never yelled. Always was teaching even when losing.
As a coach I agree with almost everything he says...
But putting something like this in a letter is stupid. This should be his SCRIPT for a parent meeting, a script that no one else sees or can nitpick after the fact.
Tenim un nom el sap tothom. Barca, Barca, BAAARCA!
The kind of person who would nitpick after the fact is the same person who would have been recording a reading of it as a script and nitpicking after the fact anyway. It probably saved him a one or two hour bitch session. When parents get together and a few become adversarial, they seem to draw strength from each other's bitching.
I think the open letter format was perfect. I would have used a bit of bulleting or numbering and more white space, but that's just me.
he sounds demanding and some may not like the tone,
but i agree100% with everything he says. the many parents that are the annoying, selfish types matheny decries, absolutely need to hear this.
"I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." -Evelyn Beatrice Hall
..they are free to have their kids play elsewhere. As a youth baseball and soccer coach for years I'm here to say I wish I had written as good a letter as this one.
Adams Axiom: The major difference between something that might go wrong and something that can not possibly go wrong is that when a thing that can not possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair.
I don't really mind this letter. I wish more coaches would do this in my town. He obviously cares about the kids, but has seen too many times where the parents become destructive to the boys' love for the game. I think this letter is great.
Parents these days are out of control. Nothing has caused me more personal frustration in my life (I am not kidding) than youth sports
I am struggling with my kids running into the same coaches in every sport who make everything about their own kids.
On the flip side I had a parent complain about my coaching (he said I played favorites) when his kid was disprectful, didn't know the positions and the dad had his head burried in his phone during the entire game. There is an asshole or several of them for each team.
I see the problem as coaches who are setting the wrong examples and being selfish. Often these are guys who didn't play too much themselves and don't get what sports are about for 99% of the kids. They think their kid is headed to the NFL or MLB or they just want bragging rights.
We need more coaches who have the cajones to say stuff like this and more parents stay out of the coaches way.
No disrespect to Matheny, but really, FU<K the cardinals.....
that is all
It's tough being Blue in Columbus!!!
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Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me. - the_big_house 500th
I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm
....but if you were a parent of a child on this team, if nothing else, the expectations of YOU would be crystal clear, and it seems like lately, it is an expectation that a fair number of coaches apparently need to set nowadays, and very sadly with good reason.
As someone who coached for a time after his insignificant days in baseball, I can identify with the sentiment - some parents almost want their kid to be Hank Aaron on offense, Brooks Robinson on defense, and Billy Martin with the umpires and it just isn't a realistic (or in the case of the last one, desired) expectation of someone still muddling through the 3rd or 4th grade.
"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."
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Little Jonnie is an angle, and will be a Major Leaguer some day. Takes after his old man. Ya’ll are just jealous because your kids are failures. You must just not be very good parents. If coach would put Jonnie in more, you would all see. It’s just that he plays favorites with all the other little brats on the team.
It does seem like MM is trying to fight crazy with crazy.
"Relax you panic monger" -Megatron
Sometimes setting a tone with the parents is necessary.
I vividly remember being a kid on several youth basketball and baseball teams my father coached, and there were always a few parents who were awful. It brings down the whole team, and most of the cheering or yelling of instruction from the peanut gallery was completely uncessary.
My father has numerous overbearing sports parent stories that I was not privy to as a kid.
On one of our middle school teams there was a kid whose parents would show up to every game and make out like two 13 year olds just discoerving their bodies. They rarely paid attention to anything that was happening on the court, and yet one practice they showed up demanding to know why their son was "always coming out of games as soon as he'd been subbed in, and sat the bench more than any other kid."
My father explained that their son always asked to be taken out of the game, and whenever he would say "Who needs a break?" he would be the first with his hand in the air.
He tried to play him as much as possible to be fair, but wasn't going to play a kid who wanted to be taken out of the game, over a kid sitting on the bench who wanted in.
They asked their son if it was true, to which he nodded, and they dropped it, but I shudder to think of the more zealous parents who make it more about themselves than their kids. We had a few of those on some little league teams I played on, and it makes it an uncomfortable atmosphere for all of the kids.
HOKEAMANIA RUNNIN' WILD
I dunno. My little league coach managed to keep the kids and parents in line pretty well without having to be so over the top with it. We even won a championship. He coached with honor and integrity and led by example while other coaches in the league acted like asses and their kids foloowed suit.
I'm also pretty sure his religious affiliation never came up, and I find the idea of religion entering into a game of Little League patently ridiculous. The kids are there to play baseball, not attend seminary.
Religion affects values, and values affect how you carry yourself on and off the field. As he said, he wasn't going to preach about Jesus to the kids, but he wasn't going to hide his beliefs either. I think it's fair.
"C'mon, Jimmy. Christ Our Savior would've taken that pitch for ball four, instead of waving at it up there. You got greedy, Jimmy, just like the money lenders, but you'll get 'em next time."
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I agree with you and besides he did say he would not push his religious belief on anyone. however, he did say he would not ignore it either in the right situation. I would love my son playing for this man.
Religion affects values? Not to touch the 3rd rail here and end up in a political discussion, but I have known athiests that were the among the best people on this planet, and i've known deeply religious people (at least from THEIR point of view) who were absolute garbage human beings.
People with character and values have character and values. People who don't don't. Who or how people choose to worship or not worship is rather immaterial to what kind of people they are.
Religion at it's core tries to teach people values to live by. Just because a person chooses to believe that religion, doesn't mean they will follow them. There are plenty of atheists that live a more moral life than many Christians and vice versa. Some people don't need religion to live a moral life, but some do, and some others use it to do terrible things.
Regardless, I guess I just don't understand why anybody cares that he openly states he's a Christian.
Great letter for a 13yo+ travel team up to High school ball.
seemed a bit much for LL
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I enjoyed this quite a bit. Especially
"Our culture has lost this respect for authority mostly because the kids hear the parents constantly complaining about the teachers and coaches of the child."
It's the reason I definitely will not coach youth hockey or baseball ever, something I always thought I would eventually do.
“ The best way to predict the future is to invent it.” — Alan Kay
I don't have much of a problem with this. But it isn't as funny as this email from a youth soccer coach in Quincy, MA. The fact that the parents flipped out and the coach was forced to resign suggests that Matheny may be on to something.
I would SO let my daughter play on that team.
Love & Hate are horns on the same goat.
That can't possibly be real. If it is, it's more proof that people should have to take some sort of test before being allowed to reproduce.
Oh, it's real, Mojambo.
You're shocked that parents flipped out and he was forced to resign after that? Girls' soccer parents? His resignation was inevitable the moment he hit send! He basically told the parents never to talk to him, cracked both Michael Vick and steroid half-jokes, and spent the rest of the letter acting like he was Béla Károlyi. Matheny's letter was coming from a good place and was full of painful truths. Just like little league baseball. /sheds tear... I would just love to see that ex coach bump into some of those parents at an Applebees, still wearing his Green Death official coach's windsuit.
To paraphrase Jack Nicholson from "Batman"
'Our culture needs an enema!' *tweet*
Would it have helped if the coach ended with a /s ?
I think he was being what's it called ironical. And I considered them full jokes, so yeah, I am shocked. I mean, come on:
...while blood doping and HGH use is frowned upon, there is no testing policy.
...resist the urge to become sweat-xedo-wearing yuppies who sit on the sidelines in their LL Bean chairs sipping mocha-latte-half-caf-chinos while discussing reality TV and home decorating with other feeble-minded folks.
That's gold, Jerry! Gold!
I love the letter. Plus, if I was a parent I would be happy to have a coach for my kid that is actually qualified to coach that sport. Something that is rare, at least in Northern Virginia.
In our little league, it's mostly dads (and some moms) who coach and they may or may not know what they're doing. Now that my son is in middle school, the dad coaches seem to be a little more serious and know a little more. Plus there's always travel, where you get the high school coaches getting involved.
There's a time and a place for spontaneity.
My son has been playing baseball for seven years (he's now 12), and the coaches have run the gamut. One coach in particular was truly an a**hole - he was so hyper-competitive that when we played the only other undefeated team in the league, he actually got into a screaming match with a grandfather who got too close to the dugout as he tried to take a picture. But my son will now say (that was two years ago) that he was "good" tough, that he knew baseball so it was ok. The guy hasn't coached since. As for parents, I have only run into one parent who lets her own competitiveness run wild, and it's really awful to watch. You gotta feel for the kids whose parents can't separate themselves from their kids in sports.
I coached youth sports for almost 15 years and i LOVED this letter. Trust me when I tell you that the parents are the bane of every young coach in America because 99% are delusional when it comes to their child. They all seemingly believe that their son or daughter is blessed with God-given talent that if only given the proper coaching (and playing time of course) would show itself to the world. I could count on one hand the number of parents capable of a realistic evaluation of their child's athletic prowess.....we simply are not hard-wired to be objective when it comes to a child.
My favorite parent story was during my second year of coaching youth football. We had the proverbial "Little Giants" team (before their amazing transformation) - we were BAD. In the league we were in every kids had to play 8 plays minimum or you forfiet so I had a dad assaigned to make sure every boy got at least 8 plays - usually 10 or more. Anyways one particularly terrible game we were getting drilled like 35 - 0 so I decided to let the "8 play kids" finish up the 4th quarter. I mean how much worse could it get right? So the final scored ended up like 49 to 0 and after the game I'm talking to my assistant coaches about the game when a parent got in my face and started yelling because his son (the starting QB) got pulled in the third quarter. He said this loss was all my fault cause I played the "8 play kids" too much and if i only left the starters in longer we'd be ok. Well he had more finished letting me know what a horrible coach I was when another dad came up and started yelling because I didn't give the "8 play kids" more time in the game. "How were they suppose to get better" he yelled if I didnt give them more playing time.
At that point in time I realized that there was NO way to keep parents happy and I just resigned myself to having to deal with their respective insanity. My standard response became "why don't you come out and help if you think you can improve things" which almost never got taken up on. After all - coaching kids is work...and in many cases thankless work at that. At least from the parents that is.
My husband coached flag football when my son was around 9. One mother - the mother of my son's best friend at the time - thought her son was the most gifted kid on the team and that because he couldn't run around the defenders and up field, the field wasn't wide enough. She was visibly upset with the playcalling and would openly criticize other players. My husband never coached again after that experience which is too bad because he was a pretty good coach.
Man ball. Formerly, somebody else.
If I had a son of little league age, I'd sign him up to play for him immediately. Everything I have ever read echoes what MGrowold has experienced: the parents are the assholes. Too many of them are looking at their little Johnny as their meal ticket to big bucks, or to validate Dad's manhood.
I don't give a crap about his religion; I'm as far away as you can imagine from his faith, but my kid would be playing ball, not going to church. Metheny sounds like he'd be a great teacher: firm, demanding, but fair.
Pitching coach a fmr big leaguer, and fmr all-American for Sparty. He was a born-again Evangelical and I'm an atheist. I would laugh at some of his comments but I respected and cared about him as a coach and person. I think Matheny is way cooler than this guy was so I doubt it would be an issue at all.
welcome to what it's like being a teacher.
Comes from experience. I disagree about parents providing the, "Silent encouragement". My father has worked with kids for 43 years and has a masters in counseling. He would always yell nonspecific encouragement to every kid on the team. Things like, "lookin' very strong you can do this!" many fmr teammates have told me 10 years later, that they still remember what he said because it inspired them in that moment. It's the only time they had fans cheering their name in their whole life. As for me, well I also earned a Big Ten baseball scholarship so I disagree that it put extra pressure on me. Also some of my teammates are throwing in the Major Leagues, including a couple World Series. So I don't think it negatively impacted them either. If Matheny strictly enforced the "silence" part on my Dad, I wouldn't play for him. Otherwise, that letter is beautiful.
I Have coached youth for many years, and writing a letter like this and giving it to the parents at the begining of the season is a must. I don't quite go as elaborate as this letter, but the points are the same. I as a coach have expectations for the players as well as the parents, if you are in disagreement with me, then I will try and help you and your child find another team.
I highly reccomend anyone that is thinking about coaching a youth sport to do this at the begining of the season. It nips everything in the bud and keeps everyone on the same page, which is for the kids.
As the parent of a kid who has played on school & rec ed soccer and baseball teams I think the letter is excellent and necessary. I might have thought it was over-the-top before I had been around other parents at the games, but not anymore.
Most parents are marvelous, but it only takes one or two bad apples to make it hard for everyone. They can make the coach miserable, impair kids' enjoyment and development, piss off the refs, and lead opponents to unfairly brand your entire team as unsportsmanlike.