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Are you suggesting the Texas might be interested in Mark Dantonio??
I would think he has to be in the conversation. Dantonio has averaged 10 wins with MSU. He plays pro-style offense and defense which should keep all the high-profile Texas recruits in state and last well know MSU coach worked out pretty well for Alabama.
You're not helping your own argument. Dantonio has 43 wins over 5 seasons, which averages out to 8.6 per season.
That must be that "new math" I've heard about through the years. But for the sake of argument, I wonder many stretches Perles or Duffy Daugherty had that were that successful. 8.6 isn't bad for them.
They just round up out there, I suppose.
Duffy and Perles weren't playing 13 to 14 games a season though. So straight up win comparison per season may skew it.
Sorry, 10 wins over last two season. It is what the announcers said during the broadcast last night.
In what bizarro world has he averaged 10 wins at MSU? They've had a couple good seasons but he has also averaged 7 wins per for the majority of his time there. See what I did there?
Dantonio has not averaged 10 wins a year at MSU
But Brady Hoke has at Michigan.
I don't think that Texas is looking at Dantonio, but I do agree that he's better off to take a better coaching position (say Ole miss), than stay at MSU. That said, he's probably not going anywhere.
Ole Miss is probably one of the few schools in the country in a worse position than MSU. The SEC West is brutal and they have a huge disadvantage with the history/culture there. UNC is probably the best available job outside (possibly) Texas or PSU, but they're going to want someone with ACC ties.
I agree with your assessment of Ole Miss, but I still think it's a better job than MSU. Also, UNC would be a good destination. He should move on. There are so many openings and he's taken MSU as far as he's going to take them. Plus, his stock will not get higher.
Why would Texas want Dantonio, again? The closest he's coached to Texas is Kansas in the early 1990's. He's doing a decent job at MSU, but there are questions about his ability to win big games, and Texas could bring in a coach with a proven record.
I don't know why Dantonio would leave when he's treated like a diety in East Lansing. All you have to do is listen to the guy to understand that he is a strange, smug, and egotistical man. He LOVES the way he is treated by all the sparties.
But how long would that last if he keeps losing all the top in-state recruits to Hoke? Sooner or later the quality of the team will decline as it gets harder and harder to attract local kids.
Guys. How about we win some games vs state first? This is kind of ridiculous.
Nope. He's not going anywhere. This is his dream job.
Dantonio ain't leaving MSU, and he sure as hell wouldn't receive any interest from Texas if Brown retired. I wouldn't put him in the top echelon of coaches nationwide, but he's a solid coach nonetheless. The fact that he's an insufferably sanctimonious hypocrite doesn't change that.
It takes time to bring in your guys and build something up if it wasn't humming when you got there. After 3 years at Cincinnati, Dantonio handed his program off to raving lunatic Brian Kelly and they averaged 11 wins over the next three years. After three years building things at MSU, he's gone 21-5 the last two seasons.
Texas could (and probably will) do a hell of a lot worse.
I don't really know, man. Saban never manage to do much better at MSU than Dantonio's doing right now. It's not like Michigan hasn't been winning the recruiting battles all along, but somehow, Dantonio finds a way to develop his players remarkably well. I'm not sure what about him isn't upper-echelon. He's found a way to go 11-1 and now 10-3 in consecutive seasons with MSU-level talent, picking up a conference and division title along the way. Remember how we were talking awhile about how MSU's offensive line was going to suck? Remember how that just magically disappeared and they piled up more rushing yards than Wisconsin did in the Big Ten Championship Game? I think that Dantonio has done some remarkable things, and I'm not totally sure why Texas wouldn't consider him if that came up.
So far, as well, it appears that Dantonio and his staff are doing a great job identifying talent in the Midwest run-off (e.g., Cousins, Worthy, and Martin). Except for '09, he hasn't taken *that* many recruits from UMich.
money $$$$$$$$$ was right
Only place I could see Dantonio leaving for is OSU. But obviously, that ain't happening. He might leave for an elite job elsewhere, but I doubt those schools are interested in a coach with 1 3-way split conference title.
Let's see, start with a faulty premise, then leap to unrealistic conclusions that only exist if the fautly premise is accepted. Yep, mark it down, Dantonio is the next Longhorn coach!
Dantonio is not going anywhere. I would be surprised if he did anyway.
I am no fan of his, but I will give him this: quite uncharacteristically of him, it did not occur to him to say anything snide about Michigan in the post-game interview I saw. I was waiting for it, too.
He claims to be one of two best teams in the B1G and they deserve to go to BCS bowl...subtle shot at M. He wouldn't miss the opportunity to take a shot at us cuz he's an insecure prick
Must've have missed that. Thanks for correcting me. My faith in MD is restored.
As big a douche cake as he is, he is doing a very good job in East Lansing. Expect at least 5 more years of Douchetonio
Would it be possible to hold off on the posts that mock MSU and proclaim M's superiority to MSU in all ways until after we break our 4-game losing streak to them?
Wise? Yes. Possible? Errr.... But I've been meaning to say that your avatar rocks. 'Mats rule(d)!
Let's focus on our own team and not just create flame threads about our rivals when some huge news is coming our way in a couple hours.
He's not going anywhere. Decent coach but those schools do not want him.
Saban left State before the bowl game following his fifth season on the job. Saban was 35-24-1. At the same point right now, Dantonio is 43-22. Saban finished better than 5th in the Big Ten just one time. Dantonio has shared a conference title, gone to the conference title game after winning his division, and finished in third place another time. Dantonio has averaged going 6-2 in the Big Ten over the last four seasons.
The guy is a really fucking good coach.
If what Saban did at MSU was such a big deal that he got hired at LSU, why does Mark Dantonio, who has done even better than Saban did, receiving no attention?
The Tigers missed bowl games the two years prior to Saban's arrival. They won two conference titles in the thirty years between 1971 and 2000 (Saban's first year on the job). They only went to three bowl games in the 1990's. They had a strong recruiting base and were viewed as underachievers, but it wasn't a national power by any stretch of the imagination.
I don't know what would be a current equivalent job opening (maybe UCLA?), but Dantonio could get a job of that quality in a heartbeat.
1. Saban had heat on him, always had. Might have been his NFL time. I don't know. But he was a hot name the whole time he was there to move up.
2. Saban was there when his instate rival was at it's peak, and he was always going to be 2nd fiddle in his own State. Controlling a State like Louisiana had appeal. Dantonio has had a down Michigan, and cashed in on it, so he's built a foundation and a legacy that will keep him untouchable probably ever there, unless he loses like 3 in a row to Michigan.
3. Dantonio may be a douche, but he fits along with everyone up there perfectly. Saban never really got along with anyone, and was just kept for the winning.
4. There aren't really any sleeping giant jobs out there right now, that would be better than MSU. OSU was it, and he would have had a shot if Meyer wasn't fake vacationing. UCLA can be good, but they're not LSU with that recruiting base. They can't even bounce up when USC is getting hammered. Texas is, but there's just no ties there. A&M might be interesting, but going into the SEC, with Texas-sized expectations, is that really a better situation than what he's got at MSU? The problem is, other than Texas, most of the jobs open are other little brother jobs. And why build up one of them when he already has to the level where he walks on water?
But I agree with your last statement. Mondo-dick he may be (which I'm sure we don't disagree on either), but the guy can coach. The fact that everyone thought the Spartans were going to get smoked last night, but really should have won, that was coaching. Lloyd said the rivalry was going to get closer after his last game/win against them, and it was an acknowledgement that the jokes that have rolled through E. Lansing since Saban left were done. Frankly, if Fake Bo doesn't start winning big at Nebraska, and gets the boot, I can see the battle for Michigan deciding the Legends division for a lot of years.
People of a certain age can remember when Perles was rolling, or even Saban, and they were a contender. Dantonio has them in a similar position.
"What do you think? Does Dantonio finally bolt MSU? Will RCMB servers crash from all the crying? "- from the OP
What would be Dantonio's incentive to leave again? He's got a comfortable job with a school that couldn't get anyone remotely better on short notice, and they are paying him nice wads of cash to get them within striking distance of what they would consider "greatness".
Texas is a headline job that could easily attract someone that not only knows the region better (Dantonio was in the B12 for about 15 minutes 20 years ago, as I recall), and it could also attract someone arguably better than Dantonio. Texas has no incentive to look at him seriously, in my estimation.
I am not saying he would definitely get it. But he would be in the conversation...
And there are a lot of other positions open.
But why, if there is no realistic shot of him ending up there for the reasons mentioned in this thread?
Nah he won't leave MSU. I always knew saban would leave, but I genuinely think Dantonio is there for the long haul.
He just re-did his deal, didn't he? I don't see him going anywhere. His Buckeye-bred Wolverine hatred serves him uniquely well in EL. That visceral anger and morosity cannot be replicated toward some other regional rival.
Dantonio is odd but we should focus on UM...still anxious to see Hoke's second recruiting class when it is more than promising "early playing time". Missing the 2013 MI OT to ND was not a good start on that class - for Hoke or S. Morris.
Getting Shane Morris was a great way to start his second recruiting class. So your point already fails.
Also Dymonte Thomas, who got all-Ohio honors as a junior.
Wow. How could I have forgotten him? He's a for sure 4 star possible 5 star as well....
are you kidding me, elmer is a fan of nd for a while, not just all of a sudden. his dad posts on their board. i was happy he held off and visited here.
The fact that Elmer even came to visit us was shocking. He has been a Notre Dame commit since he could actually play football.
Ah yes, because every ND recruit that UM lost turned out to haunt them?
There was a near-zero chance of Elmer going to UM, and I wish him the best. But this recruiting is going well for 2013.
Wait till our bcs bid is official
The irony is that most of the talk is about how Sparty is so pre-occupied with us, yet that's all I see in reverse here. We're obviously in their heads - let them obsess while we savor what's at hand and so clearly in our future. GO BLUE!
MSU has a really good AD, probably second in the B1G to Brandon, who hired Dantonio and loves him. He also has the support of the president and other bigwigs. They know what 4 in a row over Michigan means and they would pay handsomely to keep him. They know deep down that State fans care more about football than hoops and will pay him more than Izzo to keep him.
Plus, I think a big-time program would be apprehensive about his heart issue in the past.
Contrary to everyone else, I think Dantonio would be a pretty strong candidate there if not for the heart attack. He's had a really nice run at MSU and there just aren't that many sexy names out there right now.
If I were DeLoss Dodds, I'd probably start with Gary Patterson, move on to Chris Peterson, and then maybe go after Kirby Smart at Alabama. Beyond that, the big names are pretty slim--depending on which names you consider to be big.
and that job is not open.
Why would Dantonio want to go to Texas? The Longhorns mostly recruit only Texas--Dantonio is a NATIONAL recruiter.
You made me laugh with National
Dantonio is a decent coach, but decent isn't good enough for Texas. Texas has a good chance of snagging Patterson, Peterson or any other elite coach.
It's funny, because even though the OP writes well, with perfect punctuation and grammar, he/she is still an idiot.
Every season he won ten games. That is what I would describe, were I describing it, ergo, an excellent average given the variables therein and lackthereof, forewith. Posthaste. We're going Roses regardless of the Season.
Saint Dantonio is probably still pissed that his dream job went to Urban Meyer. I am guessing he stays at MSU until Meyer's head implodes like a grape in the next three years and he "retires" again. By then, he might have a good enough rezzie to get hired in Columbus.
is not leaving MSU for anywhere. He's 55 it took him 5 years to get MSU where it is today, he's not going through that again.
His one sole purpose for existing seems to be hating Michigan. He would have an empty soul anywhere but OSU or MSU.
I thought the thread about the "Worst NFL game of the year" was today's candidate for worst post of the year. But dammit, just like Oklahoma State made a big statement yesterday, so have you today.
but your post indicates you are no genius.
but your lack of creativity and style indicates you're no Ferragamo.
I thought this thread was going to be about the idiocy of going for a punt block with 2 minutes to go in the game and your team only down three.
If you have to have them go 3 and out, why not take a chance at 4th and 8?
You are a stain on the fan base. Do not post from now on.
The only chance Dantonio would have left MSU was if OSU came calling. They didn't, he's there until he decides to reitre, or his program collapses and gets fired.
Nope, no, not interested in Dantonio.
This post and the other ones of this ilk are atrocious. The majority of these commenters here are simultaniously trashing MSU and making fun of the RCMB for being more intreagued with Michigan travails than MSU success.
The board today is chock full of these comments. I suggest for all of you to ask before posting "Would this comment be at home on the RCMB?" or also perhaps "If an MSU fan posted this would I LOL at them?" If so please don't post.
I'm not sure D'Antonio having a heart attack would stop interest.
Didn't Texas A&M go after Bo after he had his heart attack?
Dantonio isn't stupid - he was only going to leave for one of two jobs:
The reasons being that he recruits the Midwest effectively and has zero recruiting inroads in other parts of the country.
I am actually very impressed by him as a coach. As a human being - he is a douche bag. Brady Hoke wins with class and loses with class. Never says anything negative about his opponent, gives credit where it is due. Dantonio isn't that type of human being.
But I will say I am very, very impressed by how he develops players. No one recruited Jerel Worthy - he turned him into a monster. The corners and the secondary at MSU were all low ranked players that have been coached up to be legitimately good players. He has done a great job in my personal opinion. I don't think this two year success rate will be maintained obviously (it is difficult to constantly coach players up and expect continued success - eventually recruiting better is how you maintain success - for example: Iowa).
Sadly we will be stuck with his smugness and condescension for some time. We will just have to beat that shit eating grin off is face.