Why wouldn't he want to play for his dad?
Les Miles wants his son to play at Michigan (2015 QB)
He's scared of the bag man.
Doesn't have the chest for it.
On the one hand it's kind of cool; on the other hand it kind of sucks for both parties: there always seem to be people suspecting the kid gets favorable treatment and the parent tends to overcompensate. Would you want to be John Lickliter?
I mean, when the girl says, "C'mon, Lickliter", does he increase or decrease the intensity?
he had issues maybe playing under his dad as a kid at some point. I won't coach my kids, my dad was great but I was overwhelmed and failure sucks as a kid especially when your dad is your coach. I won't coach my kids, I want them to experience it without me lecturing them at home and on the field. I was burnt out from baseball by 14, I was scouted starting at 10, went with high school kids to college pitch camps after they invited me. It was to much, I hated failing, losing. It wasn't fun any more to me, it was a job. Anyways yeah I understand Les if this is the case.
and we've never had an issue separating the playing field from our home or intertwined the coach/father thing. In fact, I'm pretty certain the only reason my daughter plays soccer is bc I coach her...
Les may know something about 2015?
Screw Les Miles.
Les Miles screws you. You the man, Les!
Knowing the SEC, Les would probabaly cut him... as he is a 5-foot-11, 175-pound quarterback.
I'm not a huge fan of Miles as a coach, but it's hard to question his devotion to the University of Michigan, so this makes a lot of sense. If he was ever actually offered the job here, I'm sure he would have taken it in a heartbeat.
whose wife would he sleep with this time?
His ethics are terrible, for sure. I would never want the guy as our coach. I'm just saying that--aside from the sleeping with other coaches' wives and negative recruiting against Lloyd Carr--he is devoted to Michigan. I think. Okay, those are two pretty bad things. Maybe not.
I'm not sure him sleeping with another coach's wife makes him any less devoted to Michigan. I think maybe it makes that wife less devoted to said Michigan coach, but has little to do with his loyalty to his alma mater.
I tend to agree with you, but I'm sure someone could make the argument that it destroyed camaraderie amongst the coaching staff, thus hurting the team, or something along those lines. And then you could say that his actions were disloyal to the University of Michigan as a result...in some vague sense. I don't really buy it, but I guess the argument could be made.
Anyone with a shred of honor and who could think a few steps ahead would know it was going to strain relationships and create distractions at the "office."
If anything it shows the opposite- that he's extremely loyal to Michigan. So much so that he likes sleeping with women who are married to its coaches.
Yes, I don't think it's something you should do. You probably shouldn't tap anybody's wife, really. But my only point was that is doesn't say much about his loyalty to Michigan.
Allegedly, Les and Mrs. Gary Moeller were sleeping together. When Gary found out, he was naturally upset, hence his drunken episode at that restaurant
All the hatred for Les...what about Mrs. M?
She hasn't been mentioned as a candidate when Michigan was looking for a coach.
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I've heard the rumor and remember the outburst but I didn't realize it was the reason for it. Is this true?
You have no clue what really happened with Miles do you? Les Miles wasn't the person who screwed around with a former assistants wife. He was the person that called Carr out for it. Maybe you remember Bill McCartney well if you and some of the other board people would do some investigation they would have seen Carr's wife is actually Bill McCarney's ex wife. Miles called Carr out for it along with another coach who had a break down at a local restaurant when his wife found out about his infidelities.
This is the correct story. I've told it many times on this board, but that ire against LM is so deep on this board, facts get twisted.
Upon deep investigation, I have concluded Bill McCartney's dead wife Lyndi McCartney and Lloyd Carr's current wife Laurie McCartney are not the same person.
Guess we still don't know the whole story.
Laurie Carr, use to be married to Bill McCartney's brother. Laurie was not Bill's wife, but rather sister-in-law.
"If" Lloyd was cheating with Laurie while she was still married, she wasn't married to an assitant coach, but rather an assitant coach's brother.
Aside from mixing up the people, the timing makes no sense. Les Miles was in high school when Lloyd and Laurie McCartney got married. Their third oldest child was already a senior QB at UM when Moeller was fired. Shouldn't you have been the one doing the investigating you called for?
I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Cougar.
another with the "you're clueless and I'm smart" behavior when in fact they are truly clueless. The poster even said allegedly. That means no proof. Not something he witnessed in person. You give him the "you're clueless" bit and then tell a total bs story because you are seriously clueless. You weren't there. You didn't witness it either. But you're so smart you're going to talk as if you know. Ha classic.
he could sleep with my wife if that is what it would take to have him coach here...
As a preferred walk on?
Once Sparty makes him an offer...
It would be difficult for him to pull a scholarship from his son. The usual form letter, hide in his office trick won't work as well when he has to see him again.
wanted me to be a doctor. Until she saw my 1st term GPA and recalculated to Garbage Collection.
Since then, it's been nowhere but up.
Mom told me I could be anything I wanted to be, "within reason". When I asked her what "within reason" meant, she said, "You ask a lot of questions for a garbage man."
Does this have the feel of a "He's probably not good enough for LSU/SEC football but he could play in the Big Ten" type of quote?
I think Les knows he would be a walkon at Michigan.
I would imagine we'd take him in some form or another.
Yeah, gas or liquid form for sure. Not so sure we'd take him in solid form.
I would take a gaseous form QB. Hopefully the wind curents would be in his favor so that he could fly the ball over everyone's heads and into the endzone.
Tacopants is in gaseous form, right?
getting the snap from center.
Don't see this working at all.
It's a gaseous center that you really need to be worried about.
Maybe Les is worried about his kid's education. Recently I was at a cooking demonstration in New Orleans. The chef - a former NFL player - commented during the demo that he hadn't gone to college, he'd gone to LSU.
“I would love to see him at Michigan,” Miles said of his son, who wants to play football and baseball in college. “The first place that I took him to tour was Michigan, and he fell in love with the place. He said, ‘Dad, I know why you went here.’”
I will say this - that last sentence there is something I would love to hear from my kids if I took them on a tour of the Michigan campus as a teenager (rather than a 7 year-old wondering when we can sit down) at some point.
So much hatred for Les on this board. That's fine, he'll keep winning championships and/or winning 10+ per year while we bask in 31-14 shellackings in the esteemed Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl.
its comical that people hate both Miles and Harbaugh, on this board.
I don't get the hatred. We would be in better shape on the football field if Les got his shot as the coach of Michigan after Carr. Imagine what Could of been.
I was just going to say something like this. I know, for whatever reasons, people are anti-Miles but I would bet that we'd be winning this whole time if were him instead of RR. I'd also be willing to bet that all the ethics, quirkiness, etc. that everyone brings up would go away if we were winning 10 games every year.
Hoke can win 8 games per year he will be in good shape here. I don't expect a coaching change for quite sometime. Only way would be if Hoke did not reach .500 this season.
I love Harbaugh. Do i wish he didnt say what he said? Yep. But that was a dig at Carr who spurned him good. And look at our program now. Imagine had Carr hired Harbaugh and not Loeffler as qb coach....thered have been zero falloff. In fact wed have risen.
This is an established fact.
The guy plays like Johnny but doesn't have the same tools as him. He does not look bad though.
how he stacks up to other quarterbacks when he's a 2015 recruit and Les Miles son. I would think he would have a pretty good idea where he is at. Miles said in the article that he could have played for them last year which may be why his son doesn't want to play for him. He has LSU and Louisiana-Lafayette looking at him according to 247 Sports.
It said he threw two no hitters in high school and wants to play football and baseball. It sounds to me like he's more likely to get a baseball scholarship and can walk on for football.
I don't believe thats how it works. If the kid gets a scholarship, it'll have to count against the football team. This rule prevents teams from giving a bunch of guys "track" scholarships to free up more football scholarships.
If the kid wants to play football at Michigan, Les will be paying his way.
Manny Miles is not a well regarded prospect. Also, he's listed at 5'11", 170 lbs.
But he could be a legacy recruit!!!!1!!one
Do you think Les might be pushing him to be a preferred walk-on?
Unless he hits a growth spurt, I don't know many FBS schools that are going to offer him a scholarship. I'm sure the Miles family has the money to foot the bill for tuition anywhere he wants to go. I wouldn't be surprised if Miles would like to see his son go to Michigan as a preferred walk-on, but if I'm the kid, I'd probably prefer to go to a smaller school (FCS or D-II) and actually play rather than sit on the bench behind Shane Morris, Alex Malzone, etc. for four years.
but he's not great there either. He has two no hitters but throws in the high 70's. He's probably not a large school pitcher.
The experience at Michigan beats most schools, especially if you're an athlete.
Even if I weren't playing a sport and needed a bunch of loans to go to Michigan, I'd rather do that than attend say, Ferris State on an athletic scholarship. That's totally in retrospect though.
Does he eat grass?
somewhere for every recruit to see
I'm sure Les doesn't want him near his troublemaking players.
until Herbstreit says so.
But the guy loves Michigan and we would've had a hell of a lot better last six years on the football field. It still amazes me that Martin knew from the beginning of the season that Carr was retiring and he still fucked up the coaching search so badly. Brandon's "process" was only marginally better. If people are still wondering why we have been down for so long just take a look at those meandering coaching searches and you'll find out.
Do ethics not matter to you?
What exactly has Les Miles done wrong other than being a "character" during interviews? Never been cited for a violation, never had off-field legal issues, and won 2 national championships.
So, where exactly does he fall short on your "ethics" stick? Don't say he "over recruits," because as far as the NCAA is concerned, nothing is wrong with that.
the average LSU grad barely passes the educational standard of a High Schooler.
Maybe the kid actually wants to get an education?
young people do dumb things they regret later or life, or not. But they will most assuredly pay for it for the rest of their lives because in this world there is no shortage of judgemental people.
He's probably like that one kid we all knew in high school that was pretty good at everything but not exceptional at anything. A good enough athlete to contribute on several varsity sports but not a major D-1 athlete.
In the conservatory, with the candlestick.
EDIT: Upon further review, I think that was Colonel Mustard and Mrs. Peacock.
In the closet, with the rope.
EDIT: Wait, I think that might have been David Carradine.
On The motorcycle, with the lead pipe.
EDIT: Dammit, that was Bobby Petrino.
I give up.
I currently own the building and have for several years....I have no idea if Les banged Moeller or Carr's wife....But I know what happened at the Excalibur....Excalibur was a hangout for Michigan coaches. At that time it was a well-respected steak place and "lounge"...It always had entertainment and alot of bigwigs would go there. The lounge area attracted some of the Detroit area's biggest movers and shakers which of course meant lots of women (including many that got paid).
Coach M and his wife went to The X for dinner as they and many other coaches/wives did from time to time. At dinner, they started fighting. No idea about what. Coach M was not a "good drinker" and started to drink. His wife meanwhile starting dancing on the dance floor with either one or more other men...Coach obviously was pissed and also very drunk and started his "tantrum"...The waitress (whom I had under my employment) told the bartender (whom I had under my employment) to cut him off. The GM (whom I had under my employment) could not control Coach M...the cops were called....thats where the tape came from....end of story