the just released schedules were a flat-out statement that the B10 doesn't believe SOS will matter in playoff selection
Les Miles stepping down?
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:22 PM | 
Awful if true. I really hope
Awful if true. I really hope
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:35 PM |
I'm sure college football
I'm sure college football
I'm sure college football will be just fine. In fact, maybe this will help us start realizing con artists like Meyer, Carroll, Kelly and Petrino are fakes
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:12 PM |
You're right. College
You're right. College
You're right. College football will survive. I do wonder, though: which Kelly do you refer to? Chip, I'm guessing?
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:16 PM |
Brian. If you think the
Brian. If you think the
Brian. If you think the deaths at ND (Declan Sullivan) and St Mary's (Lizzy Seaberg) are bad just start digging into his time at CMU and GVSU.
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:29 PM |
I suppose I haven't been
I suppose I haven't been
I suppose I haven't been following college football long enough to know what was talked about when he was at CMU and GVSU.
March 3rd, 2013 at 3:12 AM |
at GVSU
at GVSU
it was just questionable disciplinary decisions. Star QB getting in trouble multiple but never seeming to face much discipline among other unseemly things.
The CMU murder case could have been a much bigger deal but it was really swept away.
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:29 PM |
That's a pretty hefty
That's a pretty hefty
That's a pretty hefty suggestion. Why don't you just explain what the heck you're talking about? And what did he have to do with either of those deaths? He's not the overseer of all the goings on in South Bend.
"Michigan Defense" is dominating everything, in every aspect of life. That's a rough definition.
-Craig Roh 10/29/2011
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:37 PM |
Death and cover ups seem to
Death and cover ups seem to
Death and cover ups seem to coincidentally follow this guy wherever he goes. Just an unlucky guy I suppose.
Chicago Tribune December 2009
Kelly responded with team discipline as well as any new coach could. But he embroiled himself in controversy explaining why several CMU players may have perjured themselves trying to protect a teammate.
"For example, a number of them were African-Americans that had been in that culture of violence, and they're taught to look away," Kelly said in the Sept. 22, 2005, edition of the Detroit Free Press. "You don't want anything to do with it. Get out of there. You don't say anything to anybody.
"That is a culture that they are immersed in. When they come here, their first reaction is to react the way they've been taught to react in their culture and in their environment. That's difficult."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2009-12-08/news/0912070751_1_cmu-cent...
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:46 PM |
I'm on my phone...
I'm on my phone...
so searching and linking is tough, but I'm pretty sure ESPN anonymously interviewed a few FBS coaches and they all claimed that their job wouldn't survive an incident identical to Declan Sullivan's death.
Go Blue!
March 3rd, 2013 at 1:17 AM |
He refused to give up the tape
He refused to give up the tape
Investigators wanted to see Sullivan's video footage to figure out what happened. Brian Kelly refused to give the tape up because he said it showed parts of their walkthrough for the upcoming game.
Eventually OSHA was allowed to view edited clips of Sullivan's recording, they were only permitted to view them in a designated location and not allowed to take the tapes with them.
March 3rd, 2013 at 11:12 AM |
Is that really possible?
Is that really possible?
Does OSHA really have so little power they can't demand the tapes? How wasn't this alone a bigger scandal?
March 3rd, 2013 at 11:28 AM |
OSHA is almighty
OSHA is almighty
If OSHA has jurisdiction over your workplace they can do anything they want. The only reason why they wouldn't do anything is if there was pressure from above. Eventually Notre Dame was fined 77 thousand dollars but that's spare change for them.
In the first part of ther report Brian Kelly said it was a "Beautiful day", OSHA says otherwise. Here is small portion of the report.
March 3rd, 2013 at 1:05 PM |
What a joke. I never had much
What a joke. I never had much
What a joke. I never had much dislike of ND before Kelly but there is just too much weird stuff with him.
Things like this make me think the whole Teo saga was cooked up by Kelly and Teo. If ND is willing to cover up negligent homicide and sexual assault what would stop them from making up Lennay Kakua?
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:35 PM |
I am from MP and know people
I am from MP and know people
I am from MP and know people close to the program and it is safe to say Kelly didn't leave any friends in his wake. Being a jerk, making public statements about black culture and their hatred for the police being a reason his players didn't cooperate in a murder investigation and having members of the team murder a 150 pound gay kid outside of a bar for talking some smack didn't earn him too many friends in MP.
The Team, The Team, The Team.
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:41 PM |
You'll have to forgive me for
You'll have to forgive me for
You'll have to forgive me for my ignorance, but are there any links that you can show me that actually talk about this? I'm having a hard time finding anything.
Edit: There's now a link above.
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:55 PM |
Quick google found this
Quick google found this
Quick google found this article about the murder. It's a mobile link.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/mac/2005-09-09-cm...
I will take a look for something about the black culture statement but trust me he said it.
The Team, The Team, The Team.
March 3rd, 2013 at 12:02 AM |
Mobile link to an apology for
Mobile link to an apology for
Mobile link to an apology for stupid statement about black culture.
http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/stories/092505acj.html
The Team, The Team, The Team.
March 3rd, 2013 at 12:08 AM |
Appreciate the links. This
Appreciate the links. This
Appreciate the links. This has certainly been eye opening.
Thanks for educating me.
March 3rd, 2013 at 12:06 AM |
I'd recommend reading up on
I'd recommend reading up on
I'd recommend reading up on the circumstances surrounding Jerry Seymour at CMU.
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:43 PM |
Yup. Some of my buddies
Yup. Some of my buddies
Yup. Some of my buddies played for him at GVSU and I heard multiple stories of him being caught hooking up with secretaries, Coeds, etc. He always felt above it all and never thought he'd be found out since he controlled everyone in the athletic dept
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:23 PM |
If true
If true
The moral of the story is, that turning down Michigan might cost you your marriage. That's two coaches who basically accepted the job, ended up turning it down, then having an affair come out.
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:39 PM |
Who's the other
Who's the other
?
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:47 PM |
Rick pitino
Rick pitino
Rick pitino. His affair came out not too long after turning Michigan down (ironically because his wife preferred Louisville)
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:52 PM |
I guess I shouldn't
I guess I shouldn't
Say "not long after." It was probably 5-7 years later. But it was at Louisville, after taking that job over the UM job.
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:47 PM |
Rick...
Rick...
...Petrino.
LSA '89 - MBB Natl Champions, Big 10/Rose Bowl Champions | @MGoShoe
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:08 PM |
When did
When did
Miles turn down Michigan? If you are referring to post Carr, we screwed that up, he wanted to be the coach. If referring to post rich rod? Dave Brandon never was going to hire him nor did he offer, I have first hand knowledge of that. Les has burned many bridges in Ann Arbor...
Denard Robinson......They're not going to catch him!
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:23 PM |
"Then she was like
"Then she was like
will you do me and I was like wha-bam!"
"oh yeah"
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:44 PM |
Jesus.
Jesus.
This must be new, because I'm not sure how this magical .gif could have escaped me otherwise. Pure gold.
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:50 PM |
It's from last season and
It's from last season and
It's from last season and it's a classic.
The Team, The Team, The Team.
March 3rd, 2013 at 2:35 PM |
Nice touch with the
Nice touch with the
Nice touch with the sideburns.
M'Dog
March 3rd, 2013 at 12:18 AM |
Best gif EVAHHHH!!!!
Best gif EVAHHHH!!!!
Best gif EVAHHHH!!!!
"The goal, the expectation of this program is the Big Ten Championship"
March 3rd, 2013 at 2:49 PM |
This is amazing!
This is amazing!
This is amazing!
University of Tom Brady, B.A. '10; University of Peyton Manning, J.D. '13.
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:25 PM |
Somewhere
Somewhere
Gary Moeller is pleased.
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:41 PM |
He salutes you BiSB
He salutes you BiSB
He salutes you BiSB
Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:53 PM |
Also it is important to keep
Also it is important to keep
Also it is important to keep in mind that Mrs. Moeller is about 15 years older than Miles...
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:03 PM |
Really? Les has some unique appetite.
Really? Les has some unique appetite.
I would think that happened in the middle 90's. Les might be 40+, and Mrs Moeller might be close to 55+. Interesting.
March 3rd, 2013 at 3:04 AM |
That is the age spread.
That is the age spread.
That is the age difference. Personally i do not believe that it happened. Les left Michigan for other reasons. Les remained very close to Bo after he left.
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:26 PM |
Pete Carroll apparently was
Pete Carroll apparently was
Pete Carroll apparently was having an affair with a grad student and Charlie Weis made a public comment about it once.
And in terms of Les Miles a) his wife is definitely not a looker and b) if this student affair is true, then I'm totally buying the whole rumor of how Lloyd wasn't too fond of him because of some inappropriate activities he engaged in with Gary Moellers's wife. Two rumors usually add up to something.
College football losing Les Miles would suck though. This gives me a whole new view to the Les Miles Loves to Eat Grass meme....
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:11 PM |
Before we all implicate
Before we all implicate
Before we all implicate Moeller's wife, we should note that that's just one version of the rumor. Others were that he was sleeping with students.
Keep in mind that when you spread this particular rumor, you're not just making Miles look bad, you're making Mrs. Moeller as well, and that may be totally unfair.
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:15 PM |
I have no first hand knowledge
I have no first hand knowledge
But I have it on good authority that this is the accepted story among those "in the know." In other words, this isn't an internet creation (unlike this latest rumor).
So regardless of what actually happened, whatever DID happen resulted in a significant falling-out between Moeller and Miles.
March 2nd, 2013 at 11:55 PM |
There are at least some
There are at least some
There are at least some insiders who swear that this story is nonsense.
Again, when you repeat this story you are not just implicating Miles, but also the wife of someone who is still part of the Michigan athletic family. Gary Moeller still attends athletic events frequently. I think we should exercise caution here.
March 3rd, 2013 at 12:13 AM |
I understand your point.
I understand your point.
And I'm not going to try to win a "my insiders are more insiderish than your insiders" battle, cause that's not my point. My point is simply that is is a widely held view in many circles (from message board trolls like myself to past and present Athletic Department hoi polloi). And these stories have existed for 17 years. Mentioning in isn't breaking any new ground.
In other words, the rumors (whether fatually true or not) and their general acceptance inform the current relationship between Miles and various Michigan factions.
March 3rd, 2013 at 12:27 AM |
I don't think we are
I don't think we are
I don't think we are implicating anyone here. We are just talking about what we heard, read, etc. I know that various idiot journalists surf these blogs/forums and use the information but that's more of a indictment on the state of journalism today. Anyways, it's not like this is some official place where everything is of fact. Everything will be okay.
March 3rd, 2013 at 12:43 AM |
BiSB is Right
BiSB is Right
can confirm
Quiverfull
March 3rd, 2013 at 3:46 PM |
hypocracy
hypocracy
This site won't tolerate an unsubstantiated rumor for a minute... but, if the rumor has been around long enough, and BISB heard it, then it must be true?
discretion is the better part of valor my friend and I would prefer that we not sit here like high school students and debate who slept with who...
We are the dead.
March 3rd, 2013 at 10:19 PM |
Long-Known
Long-Known
it's the reason moellar went ballistic at that restaurant and lost his job. player/friends have told me this on a number of occassions. therefore, more than 'rumor', not a debate, just confirming that BiSB was on solid ground with his comment, nothing more.
Quiverfull
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:30 PM |
Soooooo...you're telling me
Soooooo...you're telling me
Soooooo...you're telling me his wife has 'More' Miles? Since she's 'not a looker'...
You see what I did there???
What every longshot, come from behind, underdog will tell ya is this... The other guy, may in fact, be the favorite. The odds may be stacked against you, fair enough. But what the odds don't know is...this isn't a math test.
March 3rd, 2013 at 2:44 AM |
hmmmm...
hmmmm...
You imply that Les Miles wife is "definitely not a looker"...
If the haters don't hate you then you're doing something wrong. - David Cone
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:27 PM |
I wonder if it was with
I wonder if it was with
I wonder if it was with Katherine Webb
March 2nd, 2013 at 10:30 PM |
...
...
This wouldn't be that surprising.
THIS IS MICHIGAN
Awful if true. I really hope it's not. College football doesn't need any more negative news.