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Leon Hall for MVP?

I know everyone is on the Charles Woodson bandwagon (as am I) but I'm here to post why Leon Hall should get consideration.

Leon Hall: 56 tackles, 5 INTs, 19 Pass Def, 2 FF
Charles Woodson: 61 tackles, 8 INTs, 14 Pass Def, 4 FF

OK, so looking at those numbers Woodson has a lead in everything but PDs, but that is a big category for CBs.

Looking at Leon's opponents by week, though:

1) Brandon Marshall - 4 rec, 21 yards
2) Greg Jennings - 0 rec
3) Santonio Holmes - 1 rec, 18 yards
4) Braylon Edwards - 0 rec
5) Derrick Mason - 0 rec
6) Andre Johnson - 8 rec, 135 yards
7) Devin Hester - 8 rec, 101 yards, 1 TD
8) BYE
9) Derrick Mason - 3 rec, 31 yards (13 targets!!)
10) Santonio Holmes - 7 rec, 88 yards (but 14 targets)
11) L. Murphy - 1 rec, 29 yards
12) M. Massaquoi - 1 rec, 12 yards (8 targets)
13) Calvin Johnson - 6 rec, 123 yards, 1 TD
14) Sidney Rice - 4 rec, 39 yards, 1 TD (but 9 targets)

Looking at his "bad" games, they really weren't that bad.

Week 6 - 12 tackles, 1 FF
Week 7 - 7 tackles, 2 INTs, 4 PDs
Week 13 - Was he hurt? Looking at the stats, this would have been a bad game (1 PD)

And his averages look like: 3.3 rec, 46 yards, 0.2 TDs per game. This includes three shut outs.

Looks pretty phenomenal, no?

(and yes, I realize the counter argument is "he probably didn't cover these guys every play and they do play some zone D", but given the data available, this is the best I could do)

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December 17th, 2009 at 3:43 PM | lol (Score:1)
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how bout not only did he not cover these guys every play, but Jonathon Joseph covered them on most plays?!?!

Taking nothing away from Leon, as he's having a great year, I do think this a particularly redonkulous argument. Woodson is changing games and making HUGE plays every week.

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December 17th, 2009 at 6:27 PM | Really?! (Score:1)
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Can we agree that you just got carried away with your love for Hall? He is having a great year. He is probably in the top dozen corners in the league right now. He is not on Woodson's level. Not even close to be honest.

I disagree about looking at the stats of the #2 WR. Holding Mohammad Massaquoi to 8 rec for 148 (week 4) does not make him look better.

Again, I want to stress that Hall is having a great year, but MVP! Not defensive MVP or All-Pro. MVP.

C'mon man!

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December 17th, 2009 at 3:44 PM | A small chance (Score:1)
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Theres still some football left but there is a chance that the first team all-pro selection for corners will be two Michigan Men.

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December 17th, 2009 at 3:46 PM | More evidence (Score:1)
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Can you show the same statistical breakdown for Woodson?

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December 17th, 2009 at 3:55 PM | Didn't ole Chuck score a few (Score:1)
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Didn't ole Chuck score a few tds as well?

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December 17th, 2009 at 4:37 PM | Other than when you (Score:1)
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Other than when you completely discounted them, of course.

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December 17th, 2009 at 4:04 PM | He is good (Score:1)
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But come on, we are talking about C. Wood

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December 17th, 2009 at 4:32 PM | how many different positions (Score:1)
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how many different positions is Woodson playing on defense again? and for someone who has aruguably "lost a step", gets my vote.

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