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Latest B10 Power Rankings from ESPN - M #3
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"Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future."
―Yoda to Luke
Powerful you have become, the dark side I sense in you.
Grave danger you are in. Impatient you are.
Try not. Do or do not, there is no try.
Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will.
Always in motion is the future.
Around the survivors a perimeter create.
Size matters not.
May the force be with you.
Blind we are, if creation of this clone army we could not see.
A Jedi's strength flows from the Force.
Help you I can, yes.
Strong am I with the force.
Agree with you the council does. Your apprentice Skywalker will be.
Always two there are, no more, no less: a master and an apprentice.
Lost a planet Master Obi-Wan has. How embarrassing.
When 900 years you reach, look as good, you will not.
There... is... another... Sky... walker
Indiana and Minnesota are both really bad. /obvious'd
Maybe he felt bad putting Minnesota last because of their coaching situation. I hope his doctors get things figured out. There are more important things than football, especially Golden Gopher football!
Ohio Polytechnic Institute <----- LOL
You ain't from around here, are ya boy?
I love you YANKEES!! LOL
this seems familar for some reason....but not in a good way.
atleast denard isn't getting big heisman hype like he did last year and tate the year before
just outside the hype http://espn.go.com/college-football/heisman/
Isn't he first according to espns predictor?
just be shortened to Ohio Poly ?
I think we should rotate between Case Western Reserve University and Wittenberg College
the Fuckeyes are underrated there. At 6, behind Illinois?
My take: 3. Ohio, 4. Sparty, 5.UM , 6. PSU 7. Illinois
We simply have to beat State before we can jump them.
So remember that thread earlier today where people were complaining about the declining quality of the board lately? One thing that should not be tolerated is immature and childish references to other schools. If we really want to clean up the quality of the board, then we should either encourage the mods to hit people like this with negative points or petition Brian to reinstitute negs.
Hey, man. Jalen called em the fuckeyes on the fab five documentary. And anything Jalen says is inherently cool. Jus sayin...
scUM is used with regularity everywhere, referring OSU as Ohio is an indignity in its own right, and if you ask half the people on this Blog Ohio State is some community college where all players sell championship rings, can't spell a word, and cheat all the time. With all the garbage (a good deal of it being fiction) about OSU on this blog and I am getting blasted for use of the "f-word." In a post where I said they were underrated?
Get over it.
scUM is used with regularity everywhere
Doesn't that prove my point? If our rivals are stooping low and using childish, classless references to our team, does that mean we should react in the same vein? Not at all. We make them look dumb by rising above it.
And you're right about some posters around here who spew out garbage about tSIO and Sparty. You can search through all my posts if you want, but you will never find me condoning that kind of talk. I think it's classless and stupid and I've called out others on it before (you're not the first). I just think, as a fanbase, we should be better than that.
The whole meme with referring to tSIO with out actually calling them Ohio State was started by Hoke and the team and is funny. Sure, it pokes fun at them, but it's hardly over the top and is not classless at all.
The problem here is that there is precident for not using these stupid sayings. Let Ohio fans use scUM all they want, it shows their juvenile level of intelligence and creativity.
But do what you want, I mean this isn't Brian's blog or anything...Read Here for further things you may not want to do. Or if you don't want to go click the link, I'll even add it here for you:
"How can I avoid downvotes?
Don't be redundant. Don't use stupid nicknames like O$U. Spell things correctly. Don't post useless replies like "I agree" and whatnot."
I agree with this, and whatnot.
Had SDSU's QB been a bit more accurate they would have moved the ball some. I would expect future opponents to be more accurate. There were so many times I let out a sigh of relief because of dropped balls or inacccurate throws. Our guys were often out of position in the secondary.
Not saying there weren't dropped balls or inaccurate throws, but I didn't see a whole lot of plays where our defenders weren't right there for a tackle even if the ball was on target. I didn't see many plays where they were out of position at all and I think a lot of their inability to get things going was more about the way our line was getting pressure on the QB than the QB simply being inaccurate.
I actually thought the defense played pretty damn good for the first time in years. I am hoping their offense really is as good as advertised and we just played a hell of a game rather than the altenative.
there were a lot of first downs they could have made with a decently thrown ball or a receiver not dropping a perfectly thrown ball. sure, tacklers were in the area, but it's moving the chains instead of stalling drives.
not to take away from the D though, because they did play great, but sdsu also missed a lot of opportunities on their own.
Yup tOSU is underrated. They got punked by the Miami offense, but I think their defense does well in conference play.
At this point Nebraska and Wisconsin are the true elite. Then there are a bunch of mid level teams and some utter crap at the bottom.
Honestly, I don't think we're that high. Too inconsistent on both sides of the ball. We've shown flashes, but until we can have a complete game, I remain worried this just the last two years. Again, I think the crux is the MSU game.
There are just major doubts about every team between 3 and 10 on that list. Nebraska even has some, even if they seem less pressing.
We can't pass and memories of GERG have everyone nervous.
Illinois was neck and neck with WMU
MSU doesn't have an o-line
OSU is starting a true freshman qb.
PSU can decide what they're doing on offense and just lost their best defensive player.
Iowa lost to ISU
Northwestern doesn't know if Persa will be able to play and lost to Army.
You can likely reorder all of those teams depending on what happens any given Saturday. To this point, though, we've done the most to answer questions out of those teams, but the Big 10's just not very good this year.
Also, Iowa nearly lost to Pitt, and Ferentz-ball.
And it looks like Persa might be back this weekend. I think it's safe to say that NW is a much better team with Persa at QB (assuming he's able to come back and play to the same level as last year).
But I would agree with your general assessment of the conference. Wisconsin definitely seems like the most complete team, but other than that, every other team has some looming question mark.
Looking at our schedule, we've got a legitimate shot of being 9-0 heading into our final 3 games. Obviously, @NW, MSU, and Iowa will be the tough games, but they certainly seem more winnable now than they did at the beginning of the year.
I don't see how we can be ranked #3 in the B1G when we're 110th in the country for passing offense. At least it's encouraging to see that we're allowing 11 fewer points per game than we were at this time last year.
Who do you think should be ranked over us, given the results this year? Only OSU and MSU looked better (arguably) going into the year, along with maybe Penn State, and they all have pretty nasty losses. Iowa doesn't look better than us, and Northwestern is still a big question mark.
#6 should be THE Ohio Polytechnic Institute
Ah, yes. Thanks for pointing out my error.
it should be THE Ohio STATE Polytechnic Institute. The Ohio Polytechnic Institute would just be Ohio, which is where I went to school, which gets confusing sometimes when I see posts about "Ohio" on this site. Every now and then I find myself thinking "when did Michigan put the Bobcats on the schedule?".
Isn't that kind of the joke, though? Since Hoke and the team refuse to refer to them as Ohio STATE, I think others have just taken that further and referred to tSIO (That School in Ohio) as random, yet Ohio-related, names.
It's definitely part of the joke and I get it and it's really funny. I was at Ohio U - or Ohio without the THE - when they were fighting with THE Ohio State University over the right to use the name Ohio on their uniforms or the ability to trademark their uniform designs or something like that. I'm pretty sure they started emphasizing THE after that lawsuit as kind of an "up yours" to OU. I may just be taking it that way though. If MSU is Michigan's little bro, then OU is Tosu's red-headed stepchild.
after the last few years, I have learned to temper me excitement a bit and to take everything with a grain of salt. My excitement level will change when we get into the real B10 competition, barring no setbacks this weekend
in the Lucky Charms Leprechaun voice.
wow...just noticed that first me.....love auto correct haha
Hoke is just a damn lucky guy. It appears that each team in the Big Ten is one level worse than they were last year with the exceptions of Wisconsin and maybe Illinois and Nebraska (and the latter are at best as good as last year). I can't ever remember the entire conference regressing across the board like this.
Right now, it doesn't look like Michigan even needs to be better to be #3 or #4, they just have to keep up with last year's team. And in fact that's probably where they are, with the offense going a step backward (for now) and the defense a step forward (for now).
Easy big fella. Being 33 in offense is a step back and the defense has improved. He said Hoke was lucky that the rest of the B1G has regressed nothing regarding his work at Michigan.
The TO ratio is not any better than it was at this point last year and either is the red zone % really. The O is definitely a step behind last years.
I mean, UConn looked bad last year against us, but they did win their league andn go to a BCS bowl. I suppose you could say that this year's ND is better than last year's, first vs. second year in a system and all, and that SDSU is better than they showed, but at best, I think, you get to this year's OOC being about equal to this year's.
but I would submit that due to our current lack of a threatening, consistent passing game it could be argued that the offense has taken a step back.
Wrong. Everything about last year's team is wrong and everything about this year's team is right. Everyone knows, as Dahblue points out quite often, that if this team looked anything like last year's team (minus 20 returning starters), we would be 1-3. It is also impossible to compliment this team and this year's schedule without mentioning how horrible the coaching is from last year, even if your point was that the Big 10 looks to be much worse than last year
UMass wasn't embarrassing. Appy state was embarrassing. Also, we didn't lose to Umass. Also, we didn't return all conference players because we still have a really young team. And guess what, the same is true next year. We still have 27 players on the defense alone that aren't juniors yet.
And yes, I do believe we would be 4-0. I also think you can describe it however you want (luck, the stars alligning perfectly, etcc...), but Hoke didn't walk into the Big 10 of last year. Ohio state imploding, not having three 11-1 teams tie for the B10 championship, and us having to play each one of those teams. You can call this whatever you want, but saying he walked into the perfect situation doesn't mean I'm hating or that I'm not over the coaching change (as the poster below stated), it means I'm honest about the situation we have now. I was actually happy as shit for the coaching change because I figured we needed a new page with a fresh start and we could finally stop hearing about how horrible the previous coaching staff were. At least half of that is correct.
And because I supported and still support RichRod, that means I can't like the new coach and like the direction the program is going?
It's ok. Just keep on thinking that the failed marriage was because RichRod is a horrible person and a horrible coach. Michigan did everything right and RichRod stepped into the perfect situation
This is why no one can take you seriously. To suggest RichRod has done anything since getting fired other than get a job and talk about football is ridiculous. So what has he done that is so horrible?
Also, did you hear RichRod didn't even have sleds at practice? Just amazing huh? I think you should get upset about it.
Man, let it go. How long are you going to be bitter over the coaching change?
But the passing. I want to hear you argue that that is not a step back from last year. Please. And the running game has pretty much held serve in my opinion. So based on my math, -1 + 0 = -1, so it's taken a step back. Whatever--a step back from #2 offense in the country doesn't mean I dislike our performance.
I'm just hedging on the D because I don't want to sound stupid if last year repeats.
I share your optimism, but after a few Big Ten games we'll know for sure if these high variance things you seem to think will continue forever like TOs and 100% red zone scoring come back to earth.
I think the top four looks right (for the time being).
Minnesota and Indiana won't play each other this year.
One of the BCS computers has us at #1. It's the one that has no bias towards the previous season, or conference affiliation, etc.
Is why you cannot trust computers.
At this point who deserves to be #3 more than Michigan? It doesn't matter if there are question marks. Everyone has question marks. This ranking isn't a forecast of how the standings will look in December. It's based on what has happened to date, and Michigan is 4-0. OSU is not. Penn State is not. MSU is not. Iowa is not. The conference has been really, really weak so far.
So, while I'm not terribly surprised Michigan is 4-0, I am somewhat surprised they are deservedly the third best team in the conference at this point in the season. But they are deservedly third.
I'm also not sure I see things changing much. You won't have to be very good to do well in this conference. I suspect OSU will find its stride and get a lot better than they showed vs. Miami. Other than that, who is there? MSU has serious issues along both lines. Iowa looks like a team that still has talent in spots but lost too many key players to be a reliable contender (although they may be right there). Penn State is just not a good football team. Illinois is terribly inconsistent. Northwestern will be decent but not great even when they get Persa back. Purdue, Indiana and Minnesota are pretty weak.
agree with Needs that 3-9 in the conference is sort of a roll-the-dice situation. At this point in the season, based purely on accomplishments, I think U-M has done as much as any other team to prove they are the best of the bunch. Consider:
U-M: 4-0 record with wins over solid notre dame and SDSU teams. Looking at the scoreboard, dominant in 3 of 4 wins.
Illinois: I'd say they're in a virtual tie with Michigan at this point, with their 4-0 record and the best win of the 3-9 teams in ASU. Struggled against a WMU team Michigan beat fairly handily.
msu: 3-1 with blowout loss @ notre dame. Their game against osu Saturday should be interesting. Slightly ahead of osu, as the loss to nd is better than the loss to Miami, and didn't struggle much against other opponents as osu did against Toledo.
osu: 3-1 with blowout loss @ Miami. Really struggled against Toledo.
PSU: 3-1 with blowout loss against Alabama. Barely beat Temple, who are probably a worse MAC team than WMU. Better loss, but Toledo may be better than Temple.
Iowa: 3-1 with inexplicable loss to Iowa State. Beat a decent Pitt team. Nice matchup @PSU Saturday.
Northwestern: 2-1 with inexplicable loss to Army. Have done the least to earn anything more than 9th in the conference thus far. Easily the worst loss of any of the 1-loss teams.
FWIW, PSU plays Indiana this week. Iowa's off. They play the week after.
I've said it before and I'll say it again -- until we actually finish the game with a "W", I'm always at maximum terror-level.
As much as I love stomping on ND's self-esteem every year, it's hard for me to feel very much excitement at all for our potential this year given our track record and how questionable our passing game has looked so far. Sadly the biggest reason for hope is that a couple of our conference foes look significantly worse (OSU, Iowa).
I seriously think we could make it to the Big Ten Championship game against Wisconsin this year. We have a shot of winning out if we can just beat Nebraska at home. Plus I think they'll lose a few games this year in the conference while becomming acclimated to their new league. Michigan Wolverines - Legends Division Champions.
As of right now, we are 4-0, and our improved Defense is looking great. I for one am excited because I know Denard can pass better - we have seen it... So I hope we just continue on and hit 9-3/10-2... We will lose a few, but we do look improved.