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i find this extremely interesting
i may have altered the title
i thought this was america
like I said on twitter: that was almost as intense as Iowa NIT games
...talks about how UConn hasn't been in contact and how they're out. (HT: UMHoops)
Jalen, Burke, and Simmons.
Mike Hart the heavy favorite in the trolling competition
just what the Pistons need: a third string center. Joe Dumars was replaced by a mean ol' alien a few years back you guys.
this would be a close approximation of hypothetical graduation speech
no you guys they're just super pumped about COLLLLLLLLLLLLEGE
not a surprise
premature congrats. One thing we can be sure of: he'll take fewer asinine penalties than Abdelkader
Thanks to ugly transitions between Fulmer/Kiffin/Dooley/Davis, Tennessee is on the edge of APR penalties for football.
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Texas fans call it Mobilhoma.
He's going to be exposed 8 years into his career? Isn't picking good assistants what coaching is all about? Hoke isn't exactly an offensive mastermind and has one of the best DCs in the country. Oklahoma won the B12 this year and won plenty of big games. Don't understand the Ole Miss hate.
Someone asked him on his twitter today if he was taking his official visit to Michigan and he said yes?
exactly, not only did he respond to the question which he didnt have to, but he kinda retweeted it for everyone to see instead of just replying directly
The twitter feed of 17-18 year old often times not the best sources of information. Maybe he changes his mind, but I trust the information coming from an interview with a reporter than a 140 character response to someone on twitter. Best to just move on as the writing has been on the wall with this one for awhile.
I understand your point but that still doesnt explain why he would answer "are you officially visiting michigan" with yes and then post it for all of his followers to see. Not saying we're still in it but according to the man himself he still plans on on taking an official to michigan.
Because reporters are so consistently accurate in our Michigan fan base experience.
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Standifer and Treadwell had similar rumors re academics. I suspect the coaches cooled after his standing didn't improve with Junior grades and no summer school.
These coaches know the importance of an elite WR. They held a spot for him unlike other recruits. He knows Shane is elite and will get him the ball.
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The "Hoke saw something he didn't like," meme is so contrived. We just got beat.
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Naw man he didn't have a commitable offer.
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There has been absolutely no reports of this that I've seen. Best to just move on.
He stated just a couple of weeks ago that Treadwell had slipped with UM and ND based on grades.
I'm not saying our inability to land him was solely grades, but our coaches chased him relentlessly for a year and then cooled in Aug/Sept after we were named a front runner in July?
We missed on Ty Isaac, Drake Harris, Kendall Fuller, Brionte, ad nauseaum simply because we couldn't close the deal.
Ty Isaac was just waiting for a commitable USC offer... once he got that he immediately jumped on it and we were only in on Brionte Dunn because of the OSU mess and scandal. If it wasn't for that there wouldn't have even been a a flirtation. Those 2 had NOTHING to do with some inability to "close the deal".
I don't remember that ever coming up on this site, and I think that kind of report would have shown up here.
that I heard a few weeks ago. Lemming seems relatively trustworthy, but I blew off the comment as ND propaganda about their high standards.
It's bazaar that UM coaches would ease off (per LaQuon) from the #1 player at a position of dire need who already named UM as his leader.
My post was meant to question our coaches' easing when we were so close. We need playmakers.
Best of luck to LaQuon.
Did you really just post "it's bazaar"?
Please, let this be spellcheck.
I meant "backwards" but my brain is foggy after 12 hours of HS football yesterday (5 HS state championships back-to-back in the Georgia Dome) and 2 flights today.
Beyond the early discussion about Treadwell, Lemming resurfaces the academic issue around the 19 minute mark in regards to Crete-Monee. The issue isn't so much the kids, but the HS and it's paperwork process.
Listen if you can stand ND propaganda . . .
And we got Kalis, Shane Morris, Kugler, Dymonte, Bosch, Tuley-Tillman, EVERY FUCKING OTHER PLAYER because they CAN close the deal.
Why do people think we're going to land every high profile player we pursue, just because they state they're interested? There's only so much the staff can do.
If he indeed is an attention whore(for lack of a better term) then I say let's move on and not pay any more attention to this guy. I want guys that want to go to U-M, not have be begged and coddled into coming.
He just seems like a guy who is a candidate to be a prima donna, that doesn't work well under Hike & Co., maybe the coaches noticed too much of this from him and cooled off pursuing him.
U-M program will survive and so will I, personally, I don't like guys like that, no matter how good they think they are
He doesn't want to come to Michigan, so he's a prima donna? If we're being consistent, I assume that makes Will Campbell a prima donna too, since he took a bunch of fake visits? No one on this board has ever spoken to Treadwell, and no one would be calling him a prima donna if he ended up at Michigan. It's really pathetic the way people think they can glean a kid's character based on whether or not he wants to attend their school.
And, for the record, I want the best players we can possibly get who don't have genuine character issues, even if the coaching staff has to beg and plead to make it happen.
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Sorry if I seem like a sore loser here. That's why I said "if" on my comment.
I want what you want, the best players we can possibly get, however, I don't want to beg these guys, I want them to want to come to U-M. I believe that keeps attrition down eventually.
I'm so confused.
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If Michigan misses on Green, there will be a growing trend of missing on skill position players. I think part of this is our two best recruiters are DL coaches.
I think the other part is that skill position players like to see how they will be used on the field. Since our offense needed to adapt to Denard, these kids couldn't really see how the offense will look during a game situation.
I'm afraid it's going to be the polar opposite of RR recruiting. He recruited a ton of talent (mostly) on offense as compared to this staff and all the defensive talent they are recruiting. It would be nice to see more of a happy medium.
Defense wins championships?
He did not recruit a ton of offensive talent. In fact he didn't really recruit much talent anywhere. You build championship football teams from the inside out and Hoke and his staff have been pulling very talents OL, DL and linebackers. Eventually, the skill positions will come, though I think the guys we have been getting are pretty good.
Name some elite talent Hoke has recruited on offense at the skill positions so far other than Morris and Funchess, if you consider TE as a skill position.
What a dumb statement. We have a 5 star qb and good talent at TE but since you want to see wr and rb you ask a question that eliminates all skill positions except for the two you want to talk about. Lets also ignore the coaches ability to recruit a 3 star nose tackle that blew up to be 5 star and contributed as a true freshman. Shame on hoke for bringing in a top class last year and an even better class this year. What a joke. Also we have another 5 star at a skill position you specifically want that I will eat my hat if he doesn't commit here.
Yea. We struck out every time....except that one time......and that other time..... and possibly the last time.
Of all the elite talent outside of QB we had recruited previously on offense.
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I agree that skill players will eventually come. Good OL and QB play will start to make marginal RB's and WR's look good. I think once this happens, the top level guys will start coming.
Just frustrating, that's all.
This is Hoke's first full recruiting class, and the poster you're replying to is making a valid point. The rumors were that Devin taking over at QB sparked interest in WRs looking at UM because they could see that without Denard there was going to be a whole lot more airing the ball out.
And the Hoke regime is recruiting a ton (literally) of talent on offense. It's not that a monsterous O-line makes second tier skill positions great or anything, but it changes a lot when there are holes to run through and time for receivers to get open. Or, it's difficult to build the roof of a house before you lay the foundation.
I couldn't disagree more. Hoke has already brought in a top quarterback, several talented TE's, the best set of OL over two classes I can remember, a stable of RB's that fit his offense (and possibly Green). The only offensive position that's missing is WR. I think Dukes is going to surprise a lot of people and Chesson and Darboh could be very good players. Give it time - he just got here.
Writing was on the wall IMO.
Derrick Green is someone that could help this program, so much. Could step in right away and play.
Please come to Michigan.
really hoping we can get greene, kinda would like to see some elite talent at the skill positions
"What" ain't no country I ever heard of. They speak English in What?
Ouch. Please refrain from trashing the kid, he's making the decision he thinks is best for him. Gonna have to see the final(ish) product on offense before we can really show some of these skill guys what it could look like with them involved.
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Cosigned on the trashing.
Remember, there were loads of idiots trashing Dawson when he decommitted.
Well how did that eventually work, hmm?
Aside from it being good to Michigan if the fanbase is civil, it's also just the right thing to do too.
LT has been signaling for awhile that UM was no longer at the top of his list; several people on this board just refused to hear him.
Keep calm and carry on - we are still in on Green, who is a huge offensive talent.
I was just on the free 24/7 message board and someone copied and pasted an LT tweet from three hours ago:
Laquon Treadwell @SuccessfulQuon
“@ShaneKTTM: @SuccessfulQuon you officially visiting Michigan?” Yes
Hmmmn.........I sure hope this report is wrong.
and bring up those great UCLA, Auburn, and Indiana wide receivers.
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will we ever get a commit named Laquon at this university?
These types of threads bring out the worst in mgoblog. Remember David Dawson people!!!!
I remember David Dawson, it is
The state pays for it, it is
No1. priority in 2014, I think.
It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra
Almost every pundit said that was the top priority going into the 2013 class, too.
"There was a time I could have been mistaken for Burt Reynolds. I had a moustache and so did he. But he was the number one star in the world, so there wasn't really much confusion."
They were right!
Yeah, because that advice really worked for the Lions over the last decade.
This is an all time win comment.