Pulling for BSU to win big.
Labor Day Games Open Thread
of hearing how VT is going to bust out. Every year, they have "all the pieces finally together" and they blow several important games. Until they prove me wrong, I'm ready for the team that actually has an impressive resume (in recent years, at least) to blow Tech away big-time.
The mid-major thing is getting annoying. These teams beat somebody good out-of-conference, then all they have to do to make the BCS is beat the 7 or 8 cupcakes on their league schedule. If they start off the year with a high-ranking then a top-10 finish is practically a self-fulfilling prophecy.
[Repost of my response from another BSU discussion]
Sure, but the Broncos still might just be one of the best teams in the country.* They are doing all that they can in scheduling two OOC games with good teams in VT and OSU (NTOSU), and moving to a better conference.
Because they have done so well recently, teams are not lining up to play them (same chance of losing as against other top programs, without the cachet of beating a Florida or a Texas). Also, because of their small stadium (about 36K, looking to expand into 50-60K), home-and-home games are not very appealing to big time programs.
People also forget that while it is true that they don't play as many quality opponents, they also have a far smaller margin of error in getting to the BCS. A Big Ten, SEC or Big 12 team can lose one or sometimes two games and still play for the NC. BSU has to be undefeated and win convincingly every game.
Just some food for thought.
* - In the interests of full disclosure, I just moved to Boise about 6 months ago, so it is hard not to pull for BSU.
I live in Northern Virginia and I'm surrounded by Tech fans. TV Casters and newspaper writers are usually gaga over Tech, but this year I think they've mellowed out. Even my fan friends, for the most part are expecting Tech to lose. But, I'm tired too of Virginia Tech being perenially overrated.
I'm sick and tired of hearing about what a great football team the Boise State Broncos have. I'm sick and tired of hearing about their cupcake, creampuff schedule.
On the other hand VT is 1-25 or something against Top 5 opposition. The only win was at home against Miami. All-time, away from Lane Stadium, VT is 0-22.
VT has been notorious for that choke that ends their national championship hopes...but the real reason I want BSU to lose other than being a VT alumnus...if they win this game, and beat Oregon State, you can circle them in for the National Championship. And that's something I do not want to see. I don't want to see them just glide into the championship because they scheduled cupcakes and went undefeated.
So today is a huge chance to knock Boise State off that championship talk early. :)
I always have loved me some triple option. Such a powerful offense when ran properly. There are only a few head coaches in football that still run it so it is generally very effective and fun to watch.
in the 3rd/4th? there was a botched play where both RBs cut in for the ball and only one came out with it but it was too much cooks in the kitchen and they got bunched all together and lost a yard once the ball emerged.
Saw that play from behind - was the only time I recall any confusion
Well that was an awful way to end a great drive. Terrible playcall on the goal line there.
What the hell happened there? I looked away and next thing I saw coach Ken (of Navy) was screaming in the face of the official in the tunnel. Not near his face, in his face, nose to nose.
I would love to see BSU win by one and both teams then run the table. If everyone else has two losses, the BCS could be stuck with a rematch for their MNC game. Why would I love to see this? Because there would probably be at least a "plus one" by next year. After a "plus one," it's only a matter of time before a real playoff and a real champion.
I have been surprised by the speed of the backs on both sides. Been an exciting game so far
I thought that 3rd and 18 conversion with the fullback was loltastic
What did most people choose for tonight's Pick4? Interception or no?
Are you kidding me? 3 fumbles for Navy from inside the 6? This is getting ridiculous!
Wow. Navy looks like it scored but WAIT, fumble at the goal line again. They have fumbled at the 6, 2 and now 1 yard line on their last three possessions. By that trend, the rest of their drives should end in a touchdown.
Maryland gets the ball on their 1 yard line.
Actually, according to the trend, their next drives will end at the 1/2 and 1/6 yard lines.
I was actually offered some tickets to this game. Kinda glad I didn't go...
Well, I didn't want to get into the whole Lewis Carrol's Tortoise and the Hare thing. It's never actually possible to get across the endzone line...
Yeah, I thought this game would be exciting at least on the Navy side.
I'll be rooting for VT, but I don't think they'll win. They always lose games like this and apparently their D has been very suspect in practice. Boise State is pretty damn good.
Well at least Navy tied it, even if they should be up three TDs at this point.
LET'S GO NAVY! these turnovers are very unlike Navy, especially for Dobbs. Having said that, the guy should be a Heisman candidate at some point this year.
Isn't everyone a Heisman candidate? It's not like you need a nomination.
Two passes in a row for Navy. That is mostly unheard of for them. I think series on which they don't throw a single pass are more common than times that they throw twice.
First they ran the guy down returning the kick - huge - then get back a fumble. Looked like it just flew out of the Maryland QB's hand
Crazy game. No way did he get in though.
Poor Navy! 40 Min ToP and double the yards of MD but a loss none the less.
No he didn't get in - they destroyed that play. Would have liked to see get it wider to the left side but they obviously thought it would work.
What's everyone's take on Musberger's average BAC? I'm going with .14, tipsy but not quite drunk.
Edit: Why are Herbie and Musky standing in front of a bluescreen introducing the game?
They even adapted Enter Sandman for FedEx
and then flea flicker pass interference. jeez.
So who has the uglier uniforms? I'd say Boise, minus the helmet.
These uniforms look like they had a contest to see which 5th grader could come up with a new uniform design. Clearly there wasn't a winner.
I kind of like VT's helmets, but the rest of the uniforms are flat awful. There's something to classic, non-gaudy designs, that Nike seems to have forgotten.
what a bizarre series of three. Boise doesn't get called for an extremely late unsportsmanlike, VT sucks them in with a pass interference and then the fumbled snap gives it to BSU
Well, 3-0 BSU. The crowd sounds really loud.
VA Tech's o-line looks baaaaad.
Boise looks sharp defensively.
I'm a little worried.
BSU is all over VaTech. They are going to have to run some non-3rd down screens to counter some of this pressure,
Must be blinded by Boise's blue pants.
Good punt block!
Boise looks good, 10-0 now. VTech's offense hasnt done anything
Now, will this turn into an ass-kicking or will VaTech settle it down here?
Hokies are going to have to start passing right about three minutes ago. Get Ryan out there in open space and let him do his thang.
VT needs a first down here.
This one could get ugly.
Wow. VT needs to take a man pill. Can't even get back to the line of scrimmage on 3rd and 1?
Wow. Ok. You guys posted at 8:21pm that Boise got a TD. It's 8:28pm here and they only just scored the TD. 7 minute delay? WTF? Didn't realize satellite caused that much of a delay. Remind me not to read the board while watching a Michigan game.
Where are you at Rob?
They are not looking like a #10 team right now. O line getting blown all over.
Huge 3rd down for VT.
Rushing 3 on 3rd and long?????
HUGE sack...momentum shift?
What a sack by VT. He came in untouched and crushed the QB. Then Boise gets a 20+ yard run on 3rd down to make it a 4th and 1. Conservation of greatness.
Running into the kicker.
I'm going to blame the Halloween uniforms.
What a moron. There was no need to touch the punter.
VTech is making a lotttt of stupid mistakes.
Hmm, why do I get the feeling that we're going to see at least one late hit after Moore gets wrecked
I usually associate VT with good special teams. They are playing "special" tonight.
but absolutely would not want to play them.
Man. I might be playing video games a little earlier than scheduled. Tech did not come ready to go for this one. Props to Boise for the fast start.
What a catch. That is a great catch.
That right there is a touchdown. I would hate to be a Hokie right now.
This is absolutely embarassing, even for Virginia Tech. To choke this damn early is pathetic.
You were at home in FedEx. Your fans were everywhere. And you lay this damn goose egg on BSU.
BSU is NC bound. Fuck it. So mad.
Football games are 4 quarters not one.
Also what would be so bad about Boise playing in the championship game?
What's bad about it is that BSU only has to play 1 or 2 real games all year long. That shouldn't get you into the championship game.
What he said. I don't want a team that has a huge cupcake schedule playing in the national championship.
They beat VT and OSU and they are basically in. What a cakewalk.
Wow. What a catch! It's going to be 14-0. Still lots of time for VT.
Gallarda doing his best Kevin Koger impression.
I don't think that's a catch. It looks like he reaches down his stomach to secure possession after he's already out on the white.
Now, I also think that it probably won't get overturned. It's really really close.
Edit: Yep, call stands. I disagree with the call, but probably not with the decision to not overturn. Indisputable is a high burden to meet.
I get the feeling that Miami and Florida State are licking their chops right now.
Braylon, is that you?
This is turing into a repeat of the Oregon New Mexico game. Anyone think they can score more than 72 and top Oregon?
Tyrod Taylor getting tracked down. Denard easily gets a first down there.
I was thinking the same thing. Denard is quite a bit faster than this kid.
2 first downs in a row. Small victories.
Taylor justs stands there and doesn't throw a block for Williams when he cuts back.
I'm guessing he doesn't want to get hurt and all that...
...But I bet his defensive teammates would all get fired up if he gave a massive blindside block to one of those Boise players.
VT now making some noise. Down at the 1.
Ah nothing like having Herbie's words thrown right back into his face. "You hear that BCS?" Sure did. Sounded like a touchdown.
I just realized that I have about a 5 minute lag as compared to some of the posters here. My HD broadcasts always have a delay but this is long.
That explains my issue. Figured it had more to do with satellite but that makes perfect sense. HD always lags much more. I guess I never realized it was THAT much more.
On a side note, how impressed is everyone with the Boise D so far? They are just swarming! Very well coached team to get that out of all those 2 and 3* players.
Way too many special teams mistakes. Thats one to not take advantage of what momentum you were building.
Accidental double post disregard
Honk! VT has very un-special teams.
Fumble!! If VT can cut the lead to 6 here, this will take them into half time with all kinds of momentum.
Good to see VT show some PRIDE
Make it a game again
Uh oh. Here comes VT. 20-13.
Have to say - if the game ends up going south the uniforms are enough to hold your attention for a while.
Brent Musberger lives in Montana? And he leaves there? But...why?
that vatech d is finally swarming the ball.
I used to root for Boise in these games because they are David but I dont really feel that way anymore.
Wait, why is that legal?
If you get some of the ball, it's ok to hit the punter.
I assume you are referring to running into the kicker. That is legal as long as the ball is tipped.
20-14 at the half. This should be entertaining in the 2nd half.
Brotzman took an awkward hit right there. Something to watch for in the next half with FGs.
Looked away just before the punt to end the half, so this question may be easily answered. Why were they punting? Why not go for a hail mary or just take a knee. What was the point in punting? Can't you argue there's just as much (or more!) risk of a punt return as there is for an interception if they went for it?
edit: I believe they were past the 50. no?
Yeah. They were near the 50. I would have gone hail mary on that, but they looked like they just manted to get to the lockerrooms. Might have been a missed oportunity there. Unless their QB can't chuck it 50 yards that is.
Hey folks, feel free to stay here as you've got a great thread going.
But there's a new open thread for the second half in case new arrivals are looking one they dont have to hunt and peck
should be a killer second half