3" only puts him at about 5'9". Give me 6" and I'd be happy.
Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
3" only puts him at about 5'9". Give me 6" and I'd be happy.
Kurelic has always been a little slow....
assigned him to the Midwest. Couldn't keep up with all that speed below Mason-Dixon line.
you can put much more stock in what this blog has for recruiting coverage than what bill kurelic says.
with that said, i'd certainly take a mathis commitment.
Kurelic picked Michigan for Mathis. Now if we could get Mathis to pick Michigan we be all set.
No we need Mathis to gets picks for Michigan.
The Midwest guy picked a Midwest school for Mathis? Complete with no supporting evidence? I have to feel like this is more for the page hits, than having journalistic merit.
Kurelic is a known OSU homer. If he's saying Dior to UM, he might know something (and I know nothing).
know the same amount in this instance
According to GBW Mathis has made his way into the starting lineup at CB for the Army game but he simply does not hold a candle to Avery or Terrence Talbott and so we will deliberately ignore him and slam the door in his face even if he tries to hop aboard. Which makes complete sense. Because he's short. And Rodriguez obviously can't stand short players. The man is height-crazy! (sarcasm)
RR doesn't nesscessarily hate them, he recruited McGuffie and he was what 5'7" ish.
You're comparing apples to oranges, my friend - McGuffie doesn't have to defend receivers.
Mathis can cover the slot guys. We needs CBs, and he's Army Game material. I don't see how you can possible deny him, unless you have found a 4-5 better prospects (we haven't).
Greg Robinson might not play this way for his entire time at Michigan, but not once last year did we run out a nickel package with a slot corner. A slot corner in the 2009 defense would have been a benchwarmer 100% of the time.
I'm not "denying" him, but I don't think he's the answer to our problems.
Thank you for telling us that Rodriguez doesn't mind recruiting short people, since he brought in Martavious Odoms, Vincent Smith, and Teric Jones, not to mention current commits like Terrence Talbott and Drew Dileo and Courtney Avery.
But McGuffie wasn't 5'7".
McGuffie was like 5'11". He wasn't a small back. There is a BIG difference between 5'11" and 5'6".
There is also a BIG difference between a RB and a CB.
RR was the coach on the day he verbally committed 7/29/2007. Nice!!
Ten+ years ago he was considered hot stuff in the recruiting biz (at least in the midwest) but in this era of Rivals and Scout and MGoBlog and Sam Webb he's become somewhat irrelevant.
He's a 4 star on every site and an instate guy. I'd love to have Mathis. He's also from an important school, even though none of the guys we got from Cass have seemed to pan out yet. There will be more coming up the pike. Hopefully he turns blue with Witty not qualifying.
Aside from Cissoko.. aren't they all just freshman?
If Dior decides to come to Michigan, I'd welcome him with open arms. He is an elite, explosive athlete and I'd happily take as many of those as we can get our mitts on. So what if he lacks height. Put him in the slot, where Drake has just vacated a spot. I'm sure the coaches can find a way to use his exceptional athleticism.
Read on the Mlive forum that on WTKA this morning, Sam said he no longer had the 'gut feeling' for Grimes/Murphy. Anybody else here this?
If that's true and Witty not coming, adding a corner would make sense.
of the silent commit status for these two. UM appears to still lead according to them and TomVH's recent interview, but Scout doesn't seem to consider them silent commits any more.
But even with that, I don't think that opens the door for Mathis.
In this class you still have Cullen, Avery and Talbott as CB's. That's still a pretty good haul. I'd rather them replace Grimes/Murphy with Knight or Parker and a MLB.
I never had a "gut feeling" about Murphy. I think they're headed for different schools. Hopefully at least Grimes comes to Michigan.
I will be stunned if Dior doesn't commit to Oregon.
Then again, earlier this week at the AA game Dior said he would make a "stunning" announcement on Saturday.
So, I'm ready for stunnage.
While I would agree that Kurelic appears to generally be about 2 months behind the information stream when it comes to recruiting, there's a different feel on this one.
I haven't been able to find a single other blog entry where he makes a similar gut prediction that is contrary to the prevailing theory.
He's probably taking Mathis's "I'll shock everybody with my selection statement" a little too seriously, but you never know.
And Mathis is still ranked considerably higher on both Rivals and Scout than Avery or Talbott. We'd all prefer all of our CB's were 6'3" with the wingspan of a condor and ran a 4.1, but sometimes you have to settle for the best cover guy in the state of Michigan this year...
I don't think we're getting him, but Farrell (yes, consider the source) and Kurelic (yes, consider the source) have both made statements that indicate they believe he's not a lock for Oregon.
It'll be interesting to see where he goes. It's probably 90% Oregon, but I'll be pumped if he makes the right choice.
I mean, it probably wouldn't be a bad pick up. Bring him in at corner, and if he doesn't work out there then move him to slot since we aren't getting Drake and all. I'd be alright if Mathis is the replacement for Drake.
There might be something to this opinion regarding Mathis and the slot WR position, now that Drake is out of the picture.
I don't have any background detail, but perhaps that's the "stunning" angle on his announcement.
I dunno, we watched a 5'8" corner get torched the first 1/3 of the season last year, why go through that with a guy 2 inches shorter?
"jg2112;" thought you were a big proponent of Cissoko last year, citing and/or defending his lack of play due to possible lingering injuries and preaching patience as we was a true soph? Maybe my memory serves me wrong.
Well, we watched some 6'2" LBs get torched all season but I don't think that means we give up on all normal height LBs.
Yes, Dior is a short CB. That doesn't mean he will perform just like all other short CBs. There are plenty that have succeeded.
You are saying short like it is one height. Yes, some short corners have succeeded. Can you tell me how many 5'6" corners have succeeded?
He would give up at least 9" (in height for all you TWSS guys out there) to a guy like M Floyd. I don't care how good a guys cover skills are, when you give up that kind of height to a WR you are going to come out on the losing end more often than not.
Most teams second WR's over 6' as well, so he would even give up 6" to them.
Short is one thing, 5'6" is another.
If their thought is to bring him in as a slot, I am fine with that given the Drake thing. But even Cissoko, who was described almost exactly as Dior has been his senior year and was a 5*, had more height than him. We all saw how he got abused by taller receivers this year.
I am not saying there is no hope for short DB's but 5'6" is a problem at CB IMHE.
I agree 100%.
And, like I said in the previous Mathis post - the height gap grows even larger when you factor things like wingspan and vertical into the mix.
i think that's right. part of the reason he was never high on us is that we were supposedly recruiting him as a slot, not a cb. at this point it looks like we'd be lucky to have him as either. also, bill kurelic is an idiot.
is that he's not The Otter.
I just read earlier today on Rivals (Farrell) that Michigan State is making a late charge for Mathis, right behind Oregon.
Sounds like Parker is going to be the big catch from all the talk. I will take both!
Why all these comments about Mathis being 5'6"? He's short, but he's not THAT short.
I realize there's some gamesmanship in reporting, but ESPN lists Avery, Talbott, and Mathis all as 5'9".
who saw him in person and said that he's closer to 5'6" than 5'9"(his listed height obviously). Boo-Boo is short for a CB but Boo-Boo is much taller than him.
Dior is headed to Eugene, but even if he decides he wants to play close home, he'll go to MSU. I would love to have Dior but with the commitments of Avery and Talbott, we just arent able to take him this year.
How tall was Donavon Warren, I was thinking 6'2" but if he was shorter(Warren) I think he'd had been just as good. Mathis probably has some 'hops' if he's that short and plays DB so we'll see. He'll probably end up in EL.
I would prefer Knight over Mathis
BUT, i am willing to accept him into this class with Drake not qualifying
I'm sure we will find somewhere to use Dior
hopefully the surprising announcement is for Michigan!
I'm wondering if the coaches will say, "Come to Michigan, and we'll give you a shot to play offense or defense." It sounds like Drake is gone, so they could use help at either position.
Not that I expect Mathis to choose Michigan, but it's a thought...
Nope. He has no UM scholarship offer on the table.
And BTW, Dior is very solidly 5'7".