Kris Frost: Silent Commit?
I just finished listening to Sam Webb's "Recruiting Roundup" on WTKA.com and he mentioned that there are a couple of kids who are silent commits to UM for the 2011 class.
Sam then received a call from "Mark from Novi" asking about the situation with Frost and Lyons. Sam's response regarding Frost was (paraphrased): "Michigan leads...BIG TIME." Sounds like Frost is a silent commit to me. Let's just hope he "sees the light" and realizes that he (and UM) will be best served playing OLB rather than WR.
Btw, while Sam's assessment of the situation with Lyons was not quite as promising (e.g. doesn't sound like a silent), he still expressed cautious optimism regarding Lyons due to 1) UM's academics and 2) Blake Countess's efforts to recruit Lyons to UM.
December 20th, 2010 at 8:38 AM ^
While I agree that Frost would be more beneficial at LB, I'm sure the coaches will still allow him to try out at WR and go from there. Either way, Frost is one guy I would love to have in this class. I think he will be a stud either way.
As far as Lyons, I hope he commits too. He seems like a future stud too. This class will round out to be pretty nice when all is said and done.
December 20th, 2010 at 8:46 AM ^
Agreed, since he did say that he at least wanted to take a shot at WR. With Frost, it may be similar to a Cam Gordon situation.
December 20th, 2010 at 8:54 AM ^
review of the Shrine bowl (NC vs. SC HS all star game) Frost is beginning to see the light. He was a standout at OLB and is beginning to believe his future is on that side of the ball. There was also mention of Bryant and Zettel on the GBW hour on Sunday. It appears both are waiting to hear about the coaching situation. That's three Rivals 4 stars with two of them being in top 100 for you star watchers.
December 20th, 2010 at 8:58 AM ^
I'm not sure if you mean he's enjoying the linebacker position by "seeing the light", but if so, then yes, I heard the same thing. Mike Farrell of Rivals mentioned how Frost was really beginning to appreciate the subtle nuances of playing the position, and really get comfortable with his role on D.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:01 AM ^
I would love to see him on the defensive side of the ball. Get him to come in at LB and Lucien at WR and I'll be really happy.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:07 AM ^
If we get both Frost and Lyons, we are going to finish really strong, especially for a year that we weren't suppose to have many recruits. I'll take new, hungry and untarnished recruits over bitter "wannatransfer" guys anyday! Let's go RR...beat MSU!!
December 20th, 2010 at 8:40 AM ^
Yeah, Sam definitely implied that Frost was a silent commit.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:23 AM ^
That lego piece is insensitive to Italians.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:28 AM ^
on Jack Frost? He is being silent too.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:55 AM ^
That dudes been nipping at my nose all morning. It's getting old.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:58 AM ^
I had to de-frost my kitchen this morning. Weirdest thing ever
December 20th, 2010 at 1:41 PM ^
December 20th, 2010 at 8:44 AM ^
...it's sad that, as a result, he'll be reduced to a 3-star recruit. Nevertheless, Go Blue! (And to Kris Frost: You couldn't have made a wiser decision.)
December 20th, 2010 at 8:46 AM ^
After his Shrine Bowl play, I'd be shocked if he went anywhere but up.
December 20th, 2010 at 8:45 AM ^
Anyone who has a Scout account, I'd recommend watching Frost's Shrine Bowl Highlights. Besides tackling at the neck, they are VERY impressive
December 20th, 2010 at 8:48 AM ^
There is no reason that I can see that prohibits Frost from pulling a Charles Woodson and playing some significant snaps on offense.
December 20th, 2010 at 8:49 AM ^
Once he switches to D, I'd guess it's a permanent move. He's a solid WR, but he's nothing special on O, and the coaches know it. They're not going to risk injury/sacrifice time on D so that he can play both ways.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:38 AM ^
but is it possible that he can train at both positions and when going against other D-1 atheletes, maybe he will see that he will be much better served at LB than WR. I think he may be a good WR in HS, but not sure how well he will be at the college level and maybe he will see that it will be harder to see time at WR than LB with his speed and body type (I don't know if he will be fast enough to be a playmaking WR; I also think he will fill out more in college which probably won't help his speed/quickness at the WR spot).
December 20th, 2010 at 9:44 AM ^
...except that he's not that great as a WR, we have good WRs already, and I've never seen a two-way player play WR and LB.
So I think otherwise.
December 20th, 2010 at 1:47 PM ^
is that even possible (playing WR/LB? No way. How would he work out, diet, etc...Not going to happen. Also, from what I understand...He has a good frame to add some good weight!
December 20th, 2010 at 1:59 PM ^
Yeah, it would be an extremely rare position pairing. Almost as ridiculous as an offensive guard doubling as a kick returner. Wait a minute...
Anyway, one of the more impressive position switches was that kid from Virginia Tech several years ago. I'm completely blanking on his name. I want to say it was Ed Wilfolk or something like that, but anyway, he went to Virginia Tech as a defensive end, switched to wide receiver, and then got drafted by the Jaguars.
December 20th, 2010 at 2:24 PM ^
position switches...Isn't JJ possibly moving to TE?
Not sure on Wilfolk? But regardless, anybody who can play DE and WR is a gifted athlete, to say the least!
December 20th, 2010 at 2:27 PM ^
I've heard that Ricardo Miller has switched to TE. I don't think Jeremy Jackson is switching, though.
December 20th, 2010 at 4:33 PM ^
My bad...that is who i meant. So it is true...Will be interesting!
December 20th, 2010 at 9:31 AM ^
on this board in good standing, though lately it sounds as if he has resigned himself to a coaching change.
I wonder what his record is for being the first caller up in the recruiting roundup. Since he generally ask pertainant questions, I'm not complaining.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:32 AM ^
Man, I love me some Blake Countess. The kid just committed last week, doesn't matter to him if there is a CC, and is recuriting people for us.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:32 AM ^
LB prospects maybe developing (Furman, Mike Jones, etc) in addition to having Morgan a true LB prospect in the class, that would give Michigan coaches the luxury of letting Frost get some reps in at WR in Fall to satiate his desire and then when he sees he's not where near the depth chart on WR, he can "ask" for a switch to LB in time to go through spring practice '11 and be a contributor for the 2012 season.
I'm more interested in where Zettel actually ends up, as in side of the ball.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:33 AM ^
can play where ever he wants. Yes, I would love him at LB, but with Convway out, we need a big receiver too. If he doesn't make the grade, go to D. Either way, it is a win-win for us.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:37 AM ^
Can't wait to see Hello Kris Frost
December 20th, 2010 at 9:52 AM ^
Thank you sir.
Also, Farrell this morning spoke about Dee always wanting to go to Florida, but never receiving an offer. He finally got one, and it seems as if Florida is in the lead for both him and HaHa.
Also, my understanding of Farrell this morning was that Frost falling in love with playing LB this past week put Auburn in better position for him. Now, Sam having us with a big lead is comforting, but let's not forget what happened to us with Sean Parker last year and the apparent silent commit we had with him. Just managing our expectations.
He also said that Harbaugh, should he come here, would lose some current commits, but said that it would be a recruiting bonanza for us since Farrell said that Harbaugh is among the best recruiters in the country and would put us in prime position for some big time prospects across the country.
It's definitely getting interesting. Just want signing day to come and we can stop speculating and start welcoming the latest and greatest class to Michigan.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:55 AM ^
Also, my understanding of Farrell this morning was that Frost falling in love with playing LB this past week put Auburn in better position for him
How? Michigan's not recruiting him to play WR, we're just giving him the option (as is Auburn). I don't see how that would swing him towards Auburn.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:06 AM ^
Not saying how we are or aren't recruiting him. But it seems to be that all along he always wanted to play WR until this past week, and since we didn't just start recruting him last week, it seems intuitive that he was being recruited as a WR as well..
December 20th, 2010 at 10:11 AM ^
He was being recruited as an athlete. The coaches know as well as anyone that he's best suited for the defensive side of the ball, and that's where they'll ultimately want him. However, one of the important factors in his recruitment was having the opportunity to play WR at the next level, which the coaches gave him. He's not, and has never really been, recruited just to play WR
December 20th, 2010 at 9:55 AM ^
... was committed to this coaching staff more than Michigan? That's what some posters are saying on scout's premium board.
December 20th, 2010 at 9:56 AM ^
Why would a kid commit to a coaching staff two weeks before they find out their future?
December 20th, 2010 at 9:59 AM ^
I'm not sure. I guess that's why it's a silent commit, that way he doesn't look like a flake if they get fired and he goes elsewhere.
FWIW, rivals thinks he'll be here regardless of the coach.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:02 AM ^
but maybe that is why he is silent. ex: "Hi coach, I wanted you to know that I am committed to coming to play for you, but if you get the axe, I am heading elsewhere. So for now, let's just keep this commitment between us."
Again, I don't know but this could be what is going on.
December 20th, 2010 at 10:07 AM ^
... it might also be because he wants his announcement to be at the Army All-American game to be a surprise. But your explanation is more likely if Sam Webb said the kid is committed to the staff more than Michigan.
Can anyone verify that Sam said that?
December 20th, 2010 at 10:16 AM ^
He said that the kids are waiting until the New Year to see what happens with the coaching staff...so I'd guess he's spot-on
December 20th, 2010 at 10:18 AM ^
Based on the podcast. Just some possibilities, nothing definite
IL OL Chris Bryant
NC ATh Kris Frost
LA CB James Richardson
NJ TE Jack Tabb
December 20th, 2010 at 10:22 AM ^
If it's anyone else or in addition to Frost, it's Bryant.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:01 AM ^
I doubt it's James Richardson. Otherwise, that's REALLY some overkill in the cornerback area, since they just offered Raymon Taylor.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:16 AM ^
So you don't think the coaching staff would take him if he wanted to commit? (genuine question)
December 20th, 2010 at 11:25 AM ^
Well, I think they might take Richardson right NOW...but he probably wasn't a silent commit before the coaches offered Raymon Taylor on Friday.
I can't see the coaches taking two more cornerbacks on top of the four that are already committed.
December 20th, 2010 at 11:49 AM ^
You guys know that Richardson is 2012, right?
December 20th, 2010 at 11:51 AM ^
We're talking about James Richardson, from Central, LA, who's a 2011 recruit.
You're thinking of Terry Richardson from Cass Tech.
December 20th, 2010 at 12:03 PM ^
haha my bad. I don't think he has a committable offer.