Kris Frost news
Some Twitter Buzz. It seems good for Michigan.
January 13th, 2011 at 6:42 PM ^
add in the fact that most classes have their first exam right around the drop/add deadline, a new environement, knowing few people right off the bat, yeah I'd say EE is out of the question.
January 13th, 2011 at 1:08 PM ^
I feel good about this. It never really made sense to me that Frost (who will very very likely be playing LB) saw the RichRod firing as reason to reconsider us. Given how bad our defense was, it would seem he would be on board with a switch in that personnel. Especially since all reports were that he was in love with the idea of being in Ann Arbor and the school itself. I totally understand developing a personal relationship with coaches, but if he really loved it here all along, he could be walking into a better situation for his development.
January 13th, 2011 at 1:10 PM ^
underestimate the attachment that recruits develop toward particular coaches, rather than schools (I know Frost is something of an exception to this given how much he loved Michigan growing up, but, I mean, he did back out of a silent commitment once RR was fired).
January 13th, 2011 at 1:33 PM ^
I think it depends on the kid as well but I agree in general. Recruiting is all about personal relationships. If a kid was set on going to one school (UNC) and then commits to another (Michigan) it seems clear to me that the personal relationship with a coach(es) had a lot to do with it. When that coach(es) leaves, its back to square one . . .
January 13th, 2011 at 1:11 PM ^
would also go a ways in showing Kris how he would fit on that side of the ball.
January 13th, 2011 at 1:15 PM ^
we have to promise him he starts as a receiver. Rodriguez was promising that and that is what Frost wants. Hoke has to make Frost feel that he will be given every opportunity to succeed at WR before considering a position switch.
January 13th, 2011 at 1:16 PM ^
... That he wants to try WR first. He might end up playing linebacker but he wants a shot on offense, maybe the offensive switch left him second guessing.
January 13th, 2011 at 1:21 PM ^
Well that is the missing piece I didn't fill in. Him wanting to play on offense (no matter how silly I think that may be given how amazing he looked in the Army AA game at LB) would make sense for him reconsidering.
January 13th, 2011 at 1:10 PM ^
This kid wanted to be Blue but had to pick Auburn at the game because of all the chaos. Let him start out at WR, if that's what he wants. He did make a heck of an impression at LB in the all star practices.
From all I've read he's a good kid and good leader. Vocal, positive and a hard worker, something all great programs are built on.
Hoke, get all over Zettel like white on rice. With your DL expertise that kid can see the NFL at Michigan just as likely as at PSU.
January 13th, 2011 at 1:11 PM ^
If he does commit to UM, we need some Frost Warning graphics...
January 13th, 2011 at 1:12 PM ^
He is a must in this class if we can get him. I agree with what was posted above about him and the Army All-American game. He looked like a stud out there at LB and I hope Hoke is able to convince him to come to Michigan. GO BLUE Kris!
January 13th, 2011 at 1:18 PM ^
I'm completely torn re: Frost.
On one hand UM needs all the elite talent it can get at this point especially on the defensive side of the ball; on the other hand I'm annoyed that Frost claimed to be a lifelong UM fan and was a silent commit (confirmed by Sam Webb on WTKA recently) but bailed out on UM when the going got tough.
I know it's petty...but there it is.
January 13th, 2011 at 1:27 PM ^
The 10 guys who were recruiting him for a couple years have been swept out of town (well, Fred Jackson might be back).
I don't blame him for choosing another school.
And regardless, he's going to be a beast as soon as he accepts that linebacker is his future.
January 13th, 2011 at 1:33 PM ^
I don't think that it's unreasonable for an 18-year old kid making the biggest decision of his life to change his mind when the entire coaching staff that's been working with him is completely gutted.
What if the new staff won't give him a chance at WR? What if they don't want him at all? What if they're going a completely different direction than what you're expecting? What if Michigan hired a guy that you thought was a complete tool based on interactions that you've had with them?
Not to mention the fact that he may have thought that RR was treated unfairly, which could have given him a bad impression of DB and the athletic department in general--- to see how this could enrage someone, look at any one of the thousands of posts on this board that would express the same emotions.
To say, "Well, I might not want this guy because he didn't completely leverage his future on a completely unknown situation and just should have sucked it up and committed." is petty and ridiculous.
January 13th, 2011 at 3:26 PM ^
I was under the impression that Frost was a kid who grew up a UM fan, not a fan of RR and his staff, but of the UM football program (and the University) in its entirety. This was the basis for my expressed disappointment. If he was merely a fan of RR/his staff, then his change of heart makes complete sense.
If I was incorrect in that belief, my apologies to any one offended by my remarks.
January 13th, 2011 at 1:23 PM ^
All things considered, I'd imagine M will go after Kris hard. But, if he's set on playing O instead of D, that's another story. Definitely less of a priority for M. And there are other fine receivers available.
January 13th, 2011 at 1:26 PM ^
and will realize that their kids who play defense would greatly benefit from Hoke, and they will influence them as much as they can.
January 13th, 2011 at 1:28 PM ^
around 2:15 eastern on the SVP show
January 13th, 2011 at 1:49 PM ^
If Hoke hasn't actually signed a contract yet, isn't he just the Michigan football coach in name only?
Therefore since he isn't officially the coach yet, isn't he free to call anybody he wants to.
January 13th, 2011 at 1:57 PM ^
I don't know for sure but I would think there would be some temporary document drawn up to name him to the position until the official contract can be signed. thought I heard Brandon say that the legal language takes some time to be put in written form.
If he were to call kids without the document he may be looked at as a booster or liason of the University which I'm sure the f'in NCAA has a rule on.
January 13th, 2011 at 2:33 PM ^
He can, and is, operating under a verbal contract at this point, which is binding. His intent was to agree to coach the University of Michigan's football team, and Brandon's intent, as AD, was to hire him for such a position. As such, there was a "meeting of the minds," which is all that is required for such a contract. Now, terms such as duration and all other stuff will obviously be reduced to writing, etc., but he can absolutely be "under contract" even if it isn't in writing; that's the first thing we learned in Contracts in law school: a contract does not have to be written for it to be binding.
January 13th, 2011 at 3:02 PM ^
I took this class.
I'm pretty sure if the terms of the contract haven't been worked out it isn't a valid contract.
You can argue that Hoke is working in good faith with the understanding that he is going to be the head coach at Michigan once the terms of the agreement is finished. But I'm pretty sure until both sides agree on what each is giving up and gaining he's not an actual employee of the University of Michigan.
I'm not trying to argue, just trying to find a way around NCAA rules, and I'm sure even if we find a technicality in rather or not Hoke is the actual coah yet there is some other bylaw that would stop him from contacting a recruit.
January 13th, 2011 at 3:23 PM ^
I'm not trying to argue, just trying to find a way around NCAA rules
you're from the SEC right?
January 13th, 2011 at 2:55 PM ^
http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=ncaa&id=2&tid=8052954&lid=5
For what's it's worth I took a gander over at the Auburn boards on ESPN to see what they were saying. This was the first thread and most updated one on frost. a few other threads seem to contridict but like i said, take it for what it's worth.
Some of the other threads were saying they already talked to him and his parents and he's going to gray shirt. Don't know if anyone else heard anything in regards to this
January 13th, 2011 at 4:12 PM ^
usually/never gray shirts.