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February 27th, 2012 at 6:49 PM
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Kozan Awaketh: Down to 2 Schools

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Alex Kozan down to two: 247Sports has learned that 2012 offensive lineman Alex Kozan has narrowed his search to ... bit.ly/A7UGI1

This is paywalled, but you can deduce from the non-blocked member comments that UM is one of the final two. Judging from comments on the Hawkeyes board, Auburn, and not Iowa, is the other remaining school at which Kozan may complete his visionquest play football.

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February 27th, 2012 at 6:51 PM | Does he still have a spot? (Score:2)
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Does he still have a spot?

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February 27th, 2012 at 6:52 PM | Sam Webb tweeted that he had (Score:1)
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Sam Webb tweeted that he had a gut feeling that it will not be Michigan.

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February 27th, 2012 at 8:11 PM | We're moving on to 2013, so i (Score:1)
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We're moving on to 2013, so i don't think it needs a gut feeling to tell Kozan's not coming to Michigan. 

Playing football on Wall Street

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February 28th, 2012 at 9:43 AM | I think it's better this way. (Score:2)
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I think it's better this way.  Kugler is a stud and I'm happy that Jack Miller get a shot to play, maybe even giving Kugler the luxury of a redshirt if it's helpful.  

 
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February 27th, 2012 at 6:52 PM | it for sure Michigan vs (Score:3 Normal)
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it for sure Michigan vs Auburn. Is it bad i hope he doesn't commit to us? 

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February 27th, 2012 at 6:54 PM | Yes (Score:2)
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Why would you feel that way?

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:08 PM | Exactly (Score:1)
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By all accounts, he is a very talented lineman and could potentially play guard or center.  Rivals and Espn rate him at 4-star while 247 and Scout give him 3 stars.  We are think at O-line and have 4 guys graduating.  Kozan would be a big help at a position of need.

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February 27th, 2012 at 8:14 PM | I'm with Blue Lithium.  He's (Score:2)
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I'm with Blue Lithium.  He's OK, but nothing special and I would prefer to save a spot for another 2013 recruit.

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February 27th, 2012 at 6:53 PM | Jordan Diamond getting a new (Score:1)
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Jordan Diamond getting a new teammate?

/s

In all seriousness he would still be a good get though Kugler looks to be awesome.

Here's hoping for a bright future. This team does try hard and I will continue to support them.

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February 27th, 2012 at 6:59 PM | Probably (Score:1)
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Looks like Auburn could easily end up with 7 OL in their 2012 class.  So much for the theory Diamond didn't like competition.  However, I do have to question the judgment of anyone entering a class with 6 guys already committed compared to one with 4 (especially taking into account our depth chart in 2013.... ).

 

 

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:02 PM | Not a theory.  His mom said (Score:2 Normal)
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Not a theory.  His mom said that she was concerned about the OL haul we had. 

Greetings from Bolivia.

"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple."  - Gary Moeller

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February 27th, 2012 at 8:50 PM | So they have 6 and we have (Score:1)
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So they have 6 and we have 4...are our's more highly rated or am I missing something here if she is concerned with our OL class.

Now they have 7 I guess.

"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.

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February 27th, 2012 at 6:53 PM | Please, Greater Being of Your Persuasion, Make it Stop (Score:2)
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Anyone know what's the final day of the signing period? In other words, what's the drop-dead date by which we are assured we'll know where he's attending?

"Mattison must break you. Jake Ryan is his tool."

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February 27th, 2012 at 6:57 PM | I believe it's April 1st. (Score:3 Normal)
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I believe it's April 1st.

"The difference between a man and a boy is, a boy wants to grow up to be a fireman, but a man wants to grow up to be a giant monster fireman."

- Jack Handey

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:02 PM | Fitting (Score:2)
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A day normally dedicated to me and my type.

"Mattison must break you. Jake Ryan is his tool."

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February 27th, 2012 at 6:58 PM | Sometime in April, I believe. (Score:1)
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Sometime in April, I believe.

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February 27th, 2012 at 6:55 PM | i wish him the best but i (Score:1)
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i wish him the best but i believe his scholarship would be better used in this year's class.

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February 27th, 2012 at 6:56 PM | I no longer want him for (Score:4 Normal)
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I no longer want him for three reasons:

1) If he doesn't already know that he wants to play for Michigan after all this time, his heart may not be all in it.

2) Supposedly one of the major selling points of Auburn was the fact that he'd automatically be accepted into their b-school, whereas he'd have to apply to Ross as a sophomore.  If he is considering the easy way out (Auburn's b-school) over the better b-school simply because he doesn't have to work to get into it, that's not a good sign.

3) We could pick up a better recruit in 2013 with that extra spot.

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:00 PM | Agreed. The way the 2013 (Score:1 Redundant)
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Agreed. The way the 2013 class is already shaping up I want a class filled with people that know they want to play for Michigan. 

 

So speaking of, any chance we still can get Diggs?

s/

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:01 PM | Come on (Score:4 Normal)
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Re: #1 -- so because of the arbitrary date NLOI is set for, he's too late in deciding he wants to go blue?  If the NCAA moves NLOI day up to, say January 1, you'll consider February commits (who would normally be signing day commits) too late for purposes of displaying love to UM as well?

Re: #2 -- maybe, but the fact is, it's damn hard to juggle a football player's schedule and Ross.  Possible, but damn hard.  Kid might want to major in business, but also be realistic about his work demands.

Re: #3 -- sort of agree, but bird in hand and all that.  Long day until '13 NLOI day.

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February 27th, 2012 at 6:59 PM | Ciao, 'lex (Score:2)
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...Those who flip out will NOT be champions.

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:00 PM | Upvoted your thread simply (Score:2)
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Upvoted your thread simply because the phrase "Kozan Awaketh" gives me grins.

Because I'm old and grouchy

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:01 PM | Kozan to Auburn per Tremendous twitter (Score:2)
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Thus ends the vision quest...

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:03 PM | I think this situation will show a lot (Score:2)
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about our team and Kozan as well. I see a few issues here (which granted have been discussed ad nauseum in different areas of this board).

1) Has there been a failure to communicate from Kozan? Yes he hasn't been talking to the media, but has he talked to Coach Hoke since his failure to appear his in commitment day?

2) Will Coach Hoke  prefer to pass up on Kozan for some better talent in these later spots? Personally I say no, because our needs are immediate, but I'm just some college kid.

3) Will his apparent indecisiveness effect his standing with our staff?

Interested to see how this plays out; could be a big indicator about how Hoke will handle situations in '13 as well, like the purposed theoretical from Tremendous about Tunsil being able to visit solely because he's such a talent.

This is all under the assumption that he lands with Michigan, because is he picks the other school (presumably Auburn), then whatever good luck to him.

EDIT: Well damn, looks like he's to Auburn. Nevermind then.
 

"Michigan! and stuff"

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:02 PM | Maybe (Score:1)
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he just is one of those few recruits who actually looks at a depth chart? I mean if he is a good center I would still like him as part of our 2012 haul. Taking his time, isn't the same as some players like T.P. who just wanted all the lime light for himself. This kid was quite and maybe just was really torn between playing time and the school he really wanted to go to? I can't blame him it is his future he is playing with.

21 years of coaching and every senior who stayed had at least 1 big ten title... That is what " Those who stay will be champions" will really get you Ohio native Bo Schembechler.

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:04 PM | It's Auburn (Score:1)
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Auburn

We're not teaching them about sports, we're teaching them about life!

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:07 PM | Kozan would have helped (Score:1)
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True freshman OL are rarely ready to play, even highly ranked ones, and particularly at center.  As of now, Michigan has zero proven interior linemen projecting to return in 2013.  In a best-case scenario, Bryant and Miller step up, but there's still no other depth other than the '12 class and '13 class.  3 of the 4 guys in the '12 class project to tackle (though Kalis or Schofield could probably move). Still...you want depth -- THIS REMAINS A NEED.

I'm as excited as anyone about the '13 class, but Michigan is going to need to get their talented recruits up to speed FAST to be comfortable in 2013.  The more options they have the better. Also, it's a long way to signing day.

Kozan would have helped.  But given how recruiting is going, the scholarship won't go to waste.

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:04 PM | Good luck to him in (Score:2)
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Good luck to him in Auburn.

Kudos to Michigan for not bending the rules for the undergraduate B school.  If I were a grad (LS&A here) I would cheer for not diluting the degree.

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:05 PM | Sorry but I really would (Score:1 Normal)
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Sorry but I really would prefer if Kozan didn't come to UM.  You get a whole year (of media attention) to decide where you want to go and he probably knew at least 2 years in advance that he was D-1 caliber player.  You should be able to finalize that decision by national signing day.  To put it in perspective we already have HALF of our 2013 class FILLED! Yes, I realize that is pretty insane and great to have but it is a fact for us right now.  I was in high school and yes I know you want to find a right college fit, but this has been a joke and I'd much rather have players come to UM that want to be here and have set aside proper time to make that decision in a timely fashion.  IF Kozan gets into Michigan and IF he doesn't getting a starting spot soon or after a year I can really see him just bouncing....thats my long opinion and I don't care if you don't like it....but I love you guys anyways because you're michigan fans.

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:11 PM | I guess I never understood it (Score:4 Normal)
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I guess I never understood it in the first place, but I'm not sure why people are still talking about this guy. A month after signing day, we've already wrapped up a 5 man OL class for 2013 where every player is ranked higher than Kozan. I could be wrong, but this has the feel of a situation where the recruiting sites are feeding subscribers a plate full of BS.

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:15 PM | Because (Score:1)
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a) OL usually red-shirt as freshman for a reason and

b) there are zero interior OL returning in 2013 who have a lick of experience at this point.

The best-case-scenario is Bryant-Miller-Kalis, but even that is a very inexperienced group and the depth is questionable.

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February 27th, 2012 at 7:50 PM | Hindsight (Score:2 Normal)
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I'm with everybody that isn't disappointed. I love the fact that all the recent recruits have been excited and jumped on board with enthusiasm. I can't blame Kozan for going elsewhere and he probably would've helped, but I'm glad we have an extra spot for the 2013 class.

Go Blue!

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February 27th, 2012 at 8:16 PM | Normally I wouldn't do this, (Score:-1 Flamebait)
Mr. Rager
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Joined: 11/16/2011
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Normally I wouldn't do this, but...

Fuck him.  Vision quest my ass.  He was either:

1)  Fucked over by his parents who wanted him to go to a different school (Michigan?) than he did (Iowa)

2)  Fucked over by pigeon holing himself into Iowa, only to have their coaching staff blow up.  He then liked Auburn the most, but they already had like 99 OL commits by the time he would sign

either way, the kid was diseased.  we didn't need anyone around ann arbor that didn't actually want to be there (his parents sure did, though).  fuck him.

"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt

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February 28th, 2012 at 6:58 AM | Fuck him. the kid was diseased. (Score:3 Normal)
Don
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I'm not sad Kozan chose another school; Kugler is a great pickup for us, as is the rest of our OL commits.

That being said, you're a jackass and an embarrassment to MGoBlog. Go back to MLive.


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February 28th, 2012 at 12:02 AM | Really? (Score:2)
jblaze
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As a grad of the B-School, we had a decent amount of underqualified students. I'd take a football player over most.

"They're stuck with that quarterback (sophomore Braxton Miller) for the next two or three years, that's fine with me. He throws worse than (Tim) Tebow. - Steve Everitt

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February 28th, 2012 at 2:08 AM | Not disappointed (Score:1)
Tater
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Kozan is either too flaky or his parents are.  Either way, Brady Hoke has done well enough that Kozan signing elsewhere really won't affect Michigan.  Good luck at Auburn, and all that, but Kozan really doesn't sound like he would have fit in with the kind of solid citizens that Hoke has recruited so far.  

 

 

 

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