Guess it's down to one school.
Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
Guess it's down to one school.
And that one school he chose already had four 4* and two 3* offensive linemen joining three 4* and one 3* from last year. Don't think competition or the number of commits we had was going to be an issue.
I thought this was odd too. In the previous thread, someone mentioned his mom cited our OL class as a concern. I was wondering how 6 means better opportunity than 4 but with the SEC one can never be surprised.
And somehow...I'm OK with this...
I am really cool with it unless he is the next coming of Steve Hutchinson or something.
Really cool with it since Feb 2.
Good for him..hopefully he and the rest his teammates kick Sabans ass.
The most bizarre hype over a 3* kid...maybe ever.
been a nice 4* pick-up if he had chosen Michigan.
It would have been the 4* needed the extra time to make a well thought out choice.
Love this boards lack of objectivity sometimes.
And the hype was ridiculous whether he picked Michigan or not. It's not sour grapes. He was getting Demar Dorsey and Stefon Diggs hype. At least they were 5* headcases rather than 3* headcases.
Vinopal was 1000x weirder.
Damn those vision quests. They are so biased against Michigan.
"The movie begins in five moments, "
Jim Morrison for the win! Nice choice considering the vision quest. Also I've gotten to the point where I just assume protracted recruiting battles aren't going to go our way.
now that is over....where is diggs going
Well I'm glad his spirit guide showed him the vision of War Eagle. Reminds me of David Oku. Good luck to him though.
I heard he was off developing the perfect Monkey Bread recipe. He'd found it, and was ready to commit to UM. All he had to do was check in with MGoBlog to check the weather among the fans before calling Hoke. There, he discovered that he had not, in fact, discovered the perfect recipe, whereupon he gave up all hope and meaning in life and decided to commit to Auburn. From now on, I think we should say that we were Monkeybreaded.
acqua, do you think if he would've committed to UM, that we would have been in danger of losing one of our 2013 OL committs? does this mean that we may take 6 in 2013?
According to Sam Webb, coaches told recruits that they were only taking five. Oddly enough, I talked to Laremy Tunsil yesterday who said he still wanted to take an official to Michigan. I don't think the coaches could say no to him if his interest turns out to be legitimate. Whether he really is that interested is another story, but I would say that he's been curious about Michigan for a while now.
I know this was largely covered in the "do we allow other linemen to visit" thread, but I really don't think we could accept a commit from Tunsil or Pocic if the coaches really told the linemen we have signed up that 5 was the number of linemen in this class. With Hoke and the other coaches selling character and molding of young men (which I buy, BTW), I think taking a 6th would undermine that and hurt them down the road more than they would benefit in adding one of these guys.
If a consensus five-star (let alone top-3 overall) recruit wants to play at your school, you find a way to fit him in. You can't turn down talent at that level.
EDIT: I understand your point, I just think there are extenuating circumstances in a case like Tunsil's.
Would you say the same thing for Pocic? I only ask because while I've never held my breath for Tunsil, I think Pocic was / is a real possibility, and once Kugler committed one of the first things I wondered about was if that meant we were out of the running for him.
I don't know if I'm the only one feeling this way but I could care less whether Tunsil or Pocic visit anymore. Our OL haul is epic and my focus is on getting some commits from skill players and DB/DE/DT/LB.
Yes, I agree. I would rather have 5 4-star lineman on my O-Line than 1 five star prima donna and whatever else commits and plays. Five stars have a lot of upside potential but they can always flop and flop hard. See The University of Texas, always pulling in the five stars but they always seem to never live up to their potential. A kid that is told he is the greatest thing eva never has much to work hard for. A kid who is told "so and so is better" has someone to set their sights on. Mean nasty bastards with a chip on their shoulder will always have a place in my heart.
You can when it undermines your credibility.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any coaching staff that turns down a consensus five-star recruit at any position. The only conceivable situation I could see is at a position like quarterback.
As asked above, are the coaches still recruiting Pocic? Would they turn him down? Sorry, I am also curious.
Does Tommy Schutt count?
Schutt wasn't a consensus top-five player like Tunsil is. I also believe Scout was the only five-star rank he held. You're obviously splitting hairs with the comment, but my point is that an agreed talent of Tunsil's level is going to go where he wants. Nobody would actually turn that guy down.
RE: Pocic, I can't really say whether or not Ethan is still talking with the coaches, I haven't talked to him since after his visit for the basketball game.
There is a difference between Schutt and Tunsil as Tunsil appears to be a consensus top 5 recruit while Schutt was falling in rankings and many programs seemed interested in other guys the recruiting rankings didn't pick up on. Also, he wasn't a consensus 5 star.
But you are right that the coaching staff will turn down highly rated guys at positions already filled.
There is validity to your point and it is not bad. The one thing I would say, especially about Tunsil, is that some of these higher rated guys will take their time and make a decision on signing day or close to. In that time, we could lose a prospect and leave us in a lurch at a position of need, ala Stacey. Recruiting til the end and attempting to keep some doors open on top end talent is never a bad idea. That being said, I have mixed feelings on replacing committed kids with higher ranked prospects and if Hoke expects committment and honesty, then he should always strive for that (all indications are that he does).
I think there is definitely a distinction between allowing visitors in case someone decommits and actually accepting another commitment when you said you wouldn't.
Not many names with a Z in it. Bozo comes to mind...and fitting!
Doesn't ruin my day one bit. the 2013 kids will keep on comin' and I will be buckled up for it all. Wish him the best of luck at Auburn.
Will he announce in 36 hours or is this official?
Than I took an arrow to the knee.
Thank God! Enjoy kid. Recruiting is over, you are now just a Freshman.
that was quick, and just wasted my last 5 minutes on my last post on the other thread.
I am glad that ship finally sailed. The entire thing was silly and 2013 has buried any frustration with the way the last bit of recruiting played out in 2012. Deuces.
Now if only we could get that guy Yuri, or is it?..
The shipped sailed on Yuri when he said he was hungry for cat and in dire need of getting some cats or something like that on Twitter. We don't need an obsession for felines like that at Michigan.
You are saying there is no chance?!
Only if he was obsessed with marsupials(sp?) And/or calm walks on the beach, a nice sea breeze and salsa dancing...anything but cats
I'm not too disappointed about Yuri being so into cats. I know he was a safety, but we've got Demar Dorsey coming into the fold anytime now /s
Cat people are bad news...unless the cats weigh at least 150 pounds
Good to see he finally came to a decision. A month ago this might have been bad news.
bummer. would've liked to have another lineman
Wonder how much of this decision was actually his. Wouldn't doubt if Michigan pulled his offer (don't know about Iowa).
I highly doubt they pulled the offer. Why would their interest fall off?
Who is 'they'? If you're talking about Iowa, I said I don't know about Iowa meaning I can't answer your question. Michigan obviously got a commit from Kugler.
Saying Michigan pulled their offer because of a commit from the 13 class just doesn't make sense. I highly doubt M pulled the offer.
He would never have made it to the second team here. A little hard work and determination is what...........drives some to take the easy route.
How could you even possibly know that? Your displaying Buckeye tendencies brother.
Good luck to the kid except against us.
Well, Auburn does have a terrific business school.
you really don't expect to work in the business world.
wat about wright
M's primary line needs now are defensive, not offensive. We could use 2 more quality DT's in the 2013 class.
I can die in peace now knowing who Kozan chose.
I didn't want to admit this, but I think that both are going to be headcases. I'll take a guy who falls in love with Michigan and realizes there and then his purpose on this earth. Flip-flops are for beaches.
Headcases is a little strong, but at the same time, I'm kinda glad both Diamond and Kozan are going elsewhere.
I can't say this about Kozan as much as Diamond, but how many times didn't we hear about how a different school lead for him? He has no focus. That will lead to an underachieving lineman. Get with me in 4 years...Headcase!
I have a funny feeling that that's going to go alright.
I think that this might have been a little more of a blow if he had made the decision a few weeks ago perhaps, but considering how 2012 and 2013 are shaping up on the offensive line, I don't anticipate losing any sleep over this decision coming now. Good luck to Alex.
He finally come out of hiding. Best of Luck to him
That Auburn Business school was just too good for Kozan to pass up. Its hard to compete over a kid who claims acadmics and a good business program are the most important factors in his decision when you're competing against an acadmic powerhouse like Auburn...
Why do you have to bring it strong like that man? Why you gotta bring up facts and satistics like that, Come on man.
But damn, you make tangent points!
Kozan's game theory skills led him to guaranteed Auburn b-school acceptance over Michigan without a b-school guarantee.
I don't really remember a ton of that class because it was at 8:30 AM (other than being the only class I had in the Education building), but that can't be right.
Oh well, back to 2013 recruiting...
Any chance Hoke told him we no longer had a spot for him with our burgeoning monster class of 2013? Or is he the type of kid you make room for? Sorry i just dont know much about recruits.
Darn it! Now our O-line is going to suck forever!!!
Hmmm....Kozan..........Kozan....nope dont remember that particular kid. Good luck to him either way i guess.
I actually am glad to see Auburn pulling in a really good OL class. If we expect to compete for the MNC, we just may need their help in knocking off an Alabama or an LSU at some point in the near future. That is, until we get some semblance of a playoff in place.
Good luck to Kozan and Diamond.
Guy is obviously a space cadet.....we don't need prima donnas just Michigan Men.
Why? Because he took his time to make the best decision for him? Don't bash a kid for taking his time on a very important decision. Good luck to him.
I might sound like a sore loser, but I'm not disappointed at all. I think our future at OL is bright. So bright I have to wear shades.
Hope for a solid career!
I have one message for you: grow up and leave the Kid alone. There might be a million good reasons for the guy to take his time considering--what if someone in his family got sick?--, and you go with "He's a flake and a bum." While I usually just roll my eyes, I like to think of Michigan fans as better than that.
Auburn lol what? He would have been smart to play as a big fish in a small pool at Iowa.
Auburn, has warm weather, nice looking women from what I understand and perhaps most importantly is in the ESSS-EEE-CEEE which counts ESPN as a wholly owned subsidiary anymore and getting an offer from a (good) SEC school is just going to turn a kids head nowadays. I'm just as confused about being unable to read a depth chart as everyone else, but it's not my call. Good Luck to him.
Thank God it over!!!!! Save the spot for a 2013 OL anyways
Good luck to him. I hope it works out. As many others have said, the last few weeks have made this sting less
Best of luck to him. He would have been very nice to have for a solid three deep at center, but Kugler takes the sting out of this.
I don't mean to speculate, but I wonder how much $$$ Auburn threw at him and Diamond.
I'm just kidding, I clearly mean to speculate.
Oh well, that really hurts as we really don't have very many good offensive line recruits coming in in these next 2 classes.
On the bright side, I learned a lot about Kozan, Turkey.
I have always been a recruiting nut...i mean i know my shit..but for the first time i dont really care anymore...i just trust Hoke and staff so much i wait for a hello post and say yep kid seems like a player for real
This thread shows how steeply MGoBoard has gone downhill.
Way to bash a kid for not going to "your" school.
I think this board is still very respectful of recruits choices. You have to admit Kozan brought some ridicule on himself by his bizarre decision making process.
Sigh...Alex Alex Alex. Depth chart wise, Kozan's choice makes no sense. Never expected him to ever enter the Ross buiding...c'mon you all knew the same. I visualize Trooper Taylor picked him up in the infamous Tiger Prowl bus and was his spirit guide or his "weird naked Indian" guide while he got lost in the desert and found himself. I could never commit to a guy with that name.....amirite rolldamntide? He should have just gone to Iowa. Maybe it is just me, but I just do not like to see midwest kids got to an sec "scew" (that's how the pronounce 'school' in the southeast......like screw w/o the r cuz they're "not into the whole brevity thing").
that the trees at Toomer's Corner are dying?
I hope he has a great NFL careeer because if the NFL isn't in his future, he made the wrong call. Of course, getting into Ross is definitely not a given, particularly with the rigors of a major sport.
I would take all 5 2013 ol commits before these guys if they had all been in the same class.
Good luck to him at Auburn!!!
I forget, what's his name again?
I really tried to get myself to care about this, but I just couldn't. A very strange decision from a very strange young man.
Vision quests and sacks of money. The story of lost recruits.
Jk I Hope He Does Well. Good Luck Tigers.
Vision quest over
"What was I doing here? What was the meaning of this trip? Was I just roaming around in a drug frenzy of some kind? Or had I really come out here to Las Vegas to work on a story? Who are these people, these faces? Where do they come from? They look like caricatures of used car dealers from Dallas"
We didnt give this much pub when Prior was deciding. Ridiculous if you ask me.
It would have nice to have him -- seems like a good player at a position of need.
But he chose a different path, so we're moving on.
And that's the end of that chapter.
And our great national nightmare is now over.
I would have liked to nab Kozan as the cherry on top of this ridiculously good class. But the way 2013 is shaping up, it's hard to complain. We might not have had the #1 class in the nation, but we've got a bunch of damn fine young men, and we are back to being one of the top programs in the country. THIS IS MICHIGAN.