Per Damon Sayles at ESPN.
This list is completely arbitrary and not a genuine analysis of the relative merits of state fossils.
And that one school he chose already had four 4* and two 3* offensive linemen joining three 4* and one 3* from last year. Don't think competition or the number of commits we had was going to be an issue.
I thought this was odd too. In the previous thread, someone mentioned his mom cited our OL class as a concern. I was wondering how 6 means better opportunity than 4 but with the SEC one can never be surprised.
"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.
I am really cool with it unless he is the next coming of Steve Hutchinson or something.
The most bizarre hype over a 3* kid...maybe ever.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
been a nice 4* pick-up if he had chosen Michigan.
Choose Michigan because it is MICHIGAN!
It would have been the 4* needed the extra time to make a well thought out choice.
Love this boards lack of objectivity sometimes.
"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
-Bob Ufer
http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=8&c=1&nid=5062977
And the hype was ridiculous whether he picked Michigan or not. It's not sour grapes. He was getting Demar Dorsey and Stefon Diggs hype. At least they were 5* headcases rather than 3* headcases.
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
Damn those vision quests. They are so biased against Michigan.
"Tears are salty. Sweat is salty. One gets you pity, the other gets you results"
-Former Michigan soccer coach Steve Burns
"The movie begins in five moments, "
"Play hard and with great effort"
Jim Morrison for the win! Nice choice considering the vision quest. Also I've gotten to the point where I just assume protracted recruiting battles aren't going to go our way.
Chaos is found in greatest abundance wherever order is being sought. It always defeats order because it is better organized.
now that is over....where is diggs going
/s
Why so serious? -Me
Alternatively:
"U Mad Bro?"
Well I'm glad his spirit guide showed him the vision of War Eagle. Reminds me of David Oku. Good luck to him though.
or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
I heard he was off developing the perfect Monkey Bread recipe. He'd found it, and was ready to commit to UM. All he had to do was check in with MGoBlog to check the weather among the fans before calling Hoke. There, he discovered that he had not, in fact, discovered the perfect recipe, whereupon he gave up all hope and meaning in life and decided to commit to Auburn. From now on, I think we should say that we were Monkeybreaded.
"Mattison must break you. Jake Ryan is his tool."
acqua, do you think if he would've committed to UM, that we would have been in danger of losing one of our 2013 OL committs? does this mean that we may take 6 in 2013?
According to Sam Webb, coaches told recruits that they were only taking five. Oddly enough, I talked to Laremy Tunsil yesterday who said he still wanted to take an official to Michigan. I don't think the coaches could say no to him if his interest turns out to be legitimate. Whether he really is that interested is another story, but I would say that he's been curious about Michigan for a while now.
I know this was largely covered in the "do we allow other linemen to visit" thread, but I really don't think we could accept a commit from Tunsil or Pocic if the coaches really told the linemen we have signed up that 5 was the number of linemen in this class. With Hoke and the other coaches selling character and molding of young men (which I buy, BTW), I think taking a 6th would undermine that and hurt them down the road more than they would benefit in adding one of these guys.
-UM alum trapped in C-Bus
If a consensus five-star (let alone top-3 overall) recruit wants to play at your school, you find a way to fit him in. You can't turn down talent at that level.
EDIT: I understand your point, I just think there are extenuating circumstances in a case like Tunsil's.
Would you say the same thing for Pocic? I only ask because while I've never held my breath for Tunsil, I think Pocic was / is a real possibility, and once Kugler committed one of the first things I wondered about was if that meant we were out of the running for him.
-UM alum trapped in C-Bus
I don't know if I'm the only one feeling this way but I could care less whether Tunsil or Pocic visit anymore. Our OL haul is epic and my focus is on getting some commits from skill players and DB/DE/DT/LB.
Yes, I agree. I would rather have 5 4-star lineman on my O-Line than 1 five star prima donna and whatever else commits and plays. Five stars have a lot of upside potential but they can always flop and flop hard. See The University of Texas, always pulling in the five stars but they always seem to never live up to their potential. A kid that is told he is the greatest thing eva never has much to work hard for. A kid who is told "so and so is better" has someone to set their sights on. Mean nasty bastards with a chip on their shoulder will always have a place in my heart.
"Wasn't that Michigan drive just great. That's like Patton riding into Berlin." ~Bob Ufer
You can when it undermines your credibility.
Galileo was also chastised.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find any coaching staff that turns down a consensus five-star recruit at any position. The only conceivable situation I could see is at a position like quarterback.
As asked above, are the coaches still recruiting Pocic? Would they turn him down? Sorry, I am also curious.
"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.
Schutt wasn't a consensus top-five player like Tunsil is. I also believe Scout was the only five-star rank he held. You're obviously splitting hairs with the comment, but my point is that an agreed talent of Tunsil's level is going to go where he wants. Nobody would actually turn that guy down.
RE: Pocic, I can't really say whether or not Ethan is still talking with the coaches, I haven't talked to him since after his visit for the basketball game.
There is a difference between Schutt and Tunsil as Tunsil appears to be a consensus top 5 recruit while Schutt was falling in rankings and many programs seemed interested in other guys the recruiting rankings didn't pick up on. Also, he wasn't a consensus 5 star.
But you are right that the coaching staff will turn down highly rated guys at positions already filled.
"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.
There is validity to your point and it is not bad. The one thing I would say, especially about Tunsil, is that some of these higher rated guys will take their time and make a decision on signing day or close to. In that time, we could lose a prospect and leave us in a lurch at a position of need, ala Stacey. Recruiting til the end and attempting to keep some doors open on top end talent is never a bad idea. That being said, I have mixed feelings on replacing committed kids with higher ranked prospects and if Hoke expects committment and honesty, then he should always strive for that (all indications are that he does).
"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.
Not many names with a Z in it. Bozo comes to mind...and fitting!
Campaign manager--Hoke 2012.
Doesn't ruin my day one bit. the 2013 kids will keep on comin' and I will be buckled up for it all. Wish him the best of luck at Auburn.
HEY! You there!
Will he announce in 36 hours or is this official?
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
Than I took an arrow to the knee.
Thank God! Enjoy kid. Recruiting is over, you are now just a Freshman.
that was quick, and just wasted my last 5 minutes on my last post on the other thread.
21 years of coaching and every senior who stayed had at least 1 big ten title... That is what " Those who stay will be champions" will really get you Ohio native Bo Schembechler.
I am glad that ship finally sailed. The entire thing was silly and 2013 has buried any frustration with the way the last bit of recruiting played out in 2012. Deuces.
Now if only we could get that guy Yuri, or is it?..
The shipped sailed on Yuri when he said he was hungry for cat and in dire need of getting some cats or something like that on Twitter. We don't need an obsession for felines like that at Michigan.
Only if he was obsessed with marsupials(sp?) And/or calm walks on the beach, a nice sea breeze and salsa dancing...anything but cats
I'm not too disappointed about Yuri being so into cats. I know he was a safety, but we've got Demar Dorsey coming into the fold anytime now /s
If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?
Good to see he finally came to a decision. A month ago this might have been bad news.
If I say a duck can pull a truck, shut up and hook the sucka up!
bummer. would've liked to have another lineman
Wonder how much of this decision was actually his. Wouldn't doubt if Michigan pulled his offer (don't know about Iowa).
I highly doubt they pulled the offer. Why would their interest fall off?
Guess it's down to one school.
Because I'm old and grouchy