Kool Aid For Sale
Terry Foster has an interview with EMU Regent Jim Stapleton about why only six yards etcetera can work in the B1G and why Hoke is a true Michigan man, destined to become a legendary coach:
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/columnists/terry-foster/2014/09/22/foster-michigan-job-big-brady-hoke/16065277/
If thinking like this really prevails at the top--and it certainly has in the past--they will find our players' bones in the La Brea tar pit before we are ever good again.
September 22nd, 2014 at 10:59 PM ^
We'd have to get to the Rose Bowl to make it to La Brea though...
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:00 PM ^
I like his dumbass criteria combined with the reality that 3/5 of our offensive linemen are under 300 pounds and we can't run the ball for shit against any team with a pulse.
MANBALL!!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:09 PM ^
I'm surprised that the weight of the o-line isn't mentioned more often. To be fair, the three that are under 300 are all in the upper 290's but I think that it's a very valid point. I'd love to see the average weight (and age) of the o-line for the Top 20 teams. My guess is that Michigan will come out on the light side (and probably young side).
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:17 PM ^
Molk and Omameh were lighter guys who were very good players. Minnesota's linemen I don't recall being very big when they were such a great under-center rushing attack with Mason at the helm. It's just funny to see yet another boob talk out of his ass about the B1G bruising powerhouse Hoke is building when the reality is so far from the perception.
September 23rd, 2014 at 4:06 AM ^
ya, he weighed only about 300, but he was only about 5'10". i stood next to him. and he was considered the strongest man on the team (not named mike martin). so his strength and stature gave him him huge leverage. no surprise he is sticking in the nfl to me.
September 23rd, 2014 at 7:49 AM ^
IIRC Molk was never listed above 300. What made him good was his quickness and technique to go along with the strength.
September 23rd, 2014 at 3:22 PM ^
No. | Name | Pos. | Year | Letter | Hgt. | Wgt. | Class | Hometown | State | High School |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
50 | Molk, David | OL | 2007 | 6-2 | 280 | Fr. | Lemont | IL | Lemont Township | |
50 | Molk, David | OL | 2008 | v | 6-2 | 282 | So./Fr. | Lemont | IL | Lemont Township |
50 | Molk, David | OL | 2009 | v | 6-2 | 275 | Jr./So. | Lemont | IL | Lemont Township |
50 | Molk, David | OL | 2010 | v | 6-2 | 287 | Lemont | IL | Lemont Township | |
50 | Molk, David | OL | 2011 | v | 6-2 | 286 | RS SR | Lemont | IL | Lemont Township |
Also, take into account his mental toughness.
September 23rd, 2014 at 6:20 AM ^
were significantly lighter.
September 23rd, 2014 at 8:33 AM ^
UM
52 Mason Cole OL 6-5 292 FR
78 Erik Magnuson OL 6-6 294 RS SO
60 Jack Miller OL 6-4 299 RS JR
61 Graham Glasgow OL 6-6 311 RS JR
71 Ben Braden OL 6-6 322 RS SO
alternate
67 Kyle Kalis OL 6-5 298 RS SO
average weight: 303.6
w/Kalis instead of Glasgow: 301.0
MSU
74 Jack Conklin OT 6-6 303 SO
63 Travis Jackson OL 6-4 291 SR
66 Jack Allen C 6-2 299 JR
76 Donavon Clark OL 6-4 306 JR
79 Kodi Kieler OL 6-6 304 SO
average weight: 300.6
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:02 PM ^
Hoke is still a great guy. Just not the guy for this job.
This made me smile.
Coach hoke singing me happy birthday was hysterical #goblue
— Chris Clark (@Clark8Chris) September 23, 2014
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:07 PM ^
I agree with you. Everything I've heard about him from people on the inside makes me think he's a great dude.... I just wish that he'd win games, treat the media professionally, and not regularlly treat the fanbase with contempt....
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:39 PM ^
My high school coach was a great guy, but by the end of my senior year parents had petitioned him out of a job. Was tough as a former player to see that happen.
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:09 PM ^
Did he wear a headset?
September 23rd, 2014 at 12:17 AM ^
"Hoke is still a great guy. Just not the guy for this job."
It's not that he's incapable of being the guy for this job ... it's that he doesn't seem willing to do what's necessary to be that guy. He needs to let go of his 1990's notions, some or most of his position coaches from Ball State and SDSU, and honestly seek guidance from some steady hands in the top echelons of this sport.
He has most of the puzzle pieces to be a good coach save a few. Get the few.
Failing that ... the program moves on from him. It's that simple.
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:05 PM ^
Terry Foster wrote it, eh? That should tell you right there that it isn't any good.
September 23rd, 2014 at 4:08 AM ^
i used to play pick up basketball against him at the Y in farmington hills. he was a tool there too.
September 23rd, 2014 at 7:55 AM ^
It's polyvalent, which might take you out of your league. But evidence of deep malaise.
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:13 PM ^
Right, I have been ranting about this all afternoon (Pacific time). How did Stoogies like Brandon and Stapleton come to have such sway? Stapleton is trying to deflect criticism of the program by turning it into a kulturkampf against outsiders. The delusion and insularity are like the French aristrocracy before the revolution...
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:13 PM ^
Bench Gardner and give Shane the experience before next year. One more shot with a team full of returning starters that are his recruits.
OR, realize that in 2 games against teams with a pulse we failed to even get into the redzone and scrap the whole damn thing. I mean, not once in 2 games. In fact, we never even crossed the 30 against ND and did that only twice against Utah. Good grief that's embarrassing.
September 23rd, 2014 at 8:12 AM ^
Utah only crossed the 30 four times.
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:19 PM ^
Wow, that Stapelton guy is clueless. Wtf does he know about being elite in today's college football landscape. He must be really old I'm guessing
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:32 PM ^
Winning the Big 10 the real goal? Shouldnt the goal be to win the national championship? Going to the p,ayof every now and then would certainly be nice but i think the bar should be higher
September 23rd, 2014 at 6:07 AM ^
This was Bo's goal 40 years ago when it was the only goal they could control. Win the B10 was an automatic Rose Bowl no matter the rankings. It is this dumb shit stuck in the past mentality that I can't stand.
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:40 PM ^
Does it come with two tickets?
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:42 PM ^
Saw this on Twitter
http://wp.me/p4SELw-2oi
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:53 PM ^
Dunno who this is, but his words make me feel warm and fuzzy.
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:58 PM ^
He used to work in Detroit Sports radio. I believe he's working out of Pittsburgh now but he is plugged into the program and still has media connections in the Detroit area.
September 22nd, 2014 at 11:54 PM ^
Warm up the Flight Tracker!
September 23rd, 2014 at 12:04 AM ^
I found it interesting that the 11-2 season was being used as a reason not to fire Hoke--but not for the reasons you would think.
"This is the fourth year and I understand the impatience of Michigan fans," Stapleton said. "I understand they want to win right away. What they don't understand is the 11-2 season was a mirage. It was not indicative of where Michigan football truly was. It was a great job by those kids but it set an unrealistic expectation for the uneducated."
September 23rd, 2014 at 12:16 AM ^
talking down to fans, always a good way to go.
September 23rd, 2014 at 7:58 AM ^
seemed to have trouble spotting it.
September 23rd, 2014 at 6:35 AM ^
if you buy the kool-aide?
September 23rd, 2014 at 7:02 AM ^
He has been Eastern's worst regent for a long time. Him calling anyone "uneducated"
is richly ironic. I detest the man with a passion.
September 23rd, 2014 at 7:24 AM ^
This man is uniquely "uneducated" when it comes to sports. He claimed racial bias when EMU fired English and Charles Ramsey(basketball) even though they got 5 and 6 years to create a winner. He was also part of the Tigers during their historical ly bad 2003 season. The man has influence because he has money and nothing more.
September 23rd, 2014 at 10:35 AM ^
Let's see:
0-12
2-10
6-6 (Eastern's best season in a long time...but 2 of those wins against 1AA opponents....)
2-10 (back to normal form)
1-8 (Fired after tape is released from locker room...would not happen to a coach who hand control of his team)
There were other reasons to fire him.
And Ramsey:
7-21
13-19
14-17
8-24
17-15
9-22
I heard through the grapevine he had locker room issues too.
Besides, if it were race...would they have hired Murphy? I'm just hoping that Murphy stays for a couple more years since he seems to have the team going the right way.
September 23rd, 2014 at 7:35 AM ^
http://mgoblog.com/category/user-tags/football-rich-rodriguez-michigan-…
Jim Stapleton is the former Michigan Student-Athlete and current EMU regent who was the leader of a "faction" (for lack of a better word) who were trying from day 1 to sabotage Rich Rodriguez. Obviously, Mr. Stapleton's goal became a lot easier after 2008, but that's not what I am talking about. I'm talking about him saying Mr. Rodriguez was fundamentally unsuited to the Michigan job because he did not have a previous link with the University of Michigan.
Mr. Stapleton was a friend of Ron English and was furious (along with many people inside Michigan's athletic department and also along with many football alumni, especially from the 1995-2007 era) that a person from Lloyd Carr's coaching tree wasn't hired for the job, even though there really wasn't a serious candidate from that tree. Mr. English became Eastern Michigan's coach almost entirely due to the intervention of Mr. Stapleton. Mr. Stapleton made several statements to his friends in the press in 2008 about how Mr. Rodriguez is not a "True" Michigan coach, and apparently he is still making those statements.
Now that Brady Hoke is the last person from Mr. Carr's time at Michigan who is a head coach anywhere in the country, you may see that many people from that group of 1995-2007 "Michigan Men" and their allies will fight to keep him where he is.
September 23rd, 2014 at 8:01 AM ^
word among posters accompanying the article at the Detnews was he leaded some of the stuff to the Freep that brought on the sanctions, possibly with Lloyd's connivance (I hope that the latter isn't true). I got out Three and Out last night to reread. . .
September 23rd, 2014 at 12:27 PM ^
Jim Stapleton is widely rumored to be the leak that tipped off Rosenberg and Snyder about the inconsistencies in Michigan's CARA documentation, which eventually lead to the Freep's hackneyed "expose". He is not a friend of Michigan and I could give 2 shits about his opinion regarding what is wrong with our program.
September 23rd, 2014 at 8:01 AM ^
I agree it'd be nice if Hoke won more games, but when UM hires a guy and gives him a 5 year contract, are they not acknowledging it might take 5 years to turn things around? UM blew RRod out early, and now the same might happen to Hoke? Then why even bother with all the pre-hire talk like "yup, it's gonna take 5 years to fix this disaster..." and then whack the guy (Hoke or whoever it is) beforehand. And UM can't use the "program is on the decline" excuse -- Rich Rod's record was better each year. Just askin'
September 23rd, 2014 at 8:05 AM ^
But when it becomes obvious to everyone, as you lurch between disasters, that a thing isn't working, and you face the question of contract re-negotiations in the last year of a contract, the picture is a little different. Obviously the rot goes beyond Hoke.
September 23rd, 2014 at 9:36 AM ^
why does everyone assume that there is an amazing coach just waiting to come and save us?
September 23rd, 2014 at 8:28 AM ^
I always thought those types of people were just strawmen we invented to vent our rage at the lack of success of the football program.
But nope. They are real.
September 23rd, 2014 at 9:59 AM ^
Why is that name familiar? Oh yeah, I think he was the main reason why Eastern Michigan hired Ron English. And Ron English tried to ram the 3 yards and a cloud of dust down Eastern's throat. That's great if you can recruit all of the tools to go with it. But there are only so many hulking linemen to go around.....At least he stayed out of Eastern's current hire and hopefully Eastern will return to mediocrity.....
September 23rd, 2014 at 9:59 AM ^
Why is that name familiar? Oh yeah, I think he was the main reason why Eastern Michigan hired Ron English. And Ron English tried to ram the 3 yards and a cloud of dust down Eastern's throat. That's great if you can recruit all of the tools to go with it. But there are only so many hulking linemen to go around.....At least he stayed out of Eastern's current hire and hopefully Eastern will return to mediocrity.....