KJ Costello no longer visiting?
You fine.
Until mods say otherwise.
We either have a verbal from someone else or the snow and cold got to him.
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Or he just doesn't want to leave California.
There could be a million reasons why he no longer wants to visit. It's been widely reported that the only reason he was ever considering Michigan was because of Harbaugh and Stanford was his dream school and USC is his "hometown" school.
I bet if Harbaugh left Michigan and went to Washington, a good amount of this board would still go to Michigan (if offered as a 5* prospect) even though we all love Harbaugh.
And on't know how the cold could get to him when he's all the way out in California. That's a long way for Ann Arbor cold to reach him without him visiting.
Didn't he almost commit to Hoke last summer? I hadn't heard anywhere that the only reason he wanted to come here was because of Harbaugh.
Yes, he apparently was thinking of committing, but deWeaver beat him to it last year. So while Harbaugh may have piqued Costello's interest again, it doesnt sound like he's the only reason.
This is the funny part. Costello almost committed to fucking Hoke??? but won't consider Michigan with Harbaugh?
wat. the fuck.
quarterbacks on scholarship.
So the competitive landscape probably looks a little different now that Harbaugh is here.
And my point wasn't that he was only considering Michigan because of Harbaugh...never meant that at all. I'm just saying it could've been a number of reasons beyond just the two the poster that I responded to swore by...
Very very disappointing if true. Seeing a lot of sugar coating on the thread - 6 weeks ago it was "Harbaugh can get any 5 star anywhere in the country to play for him, 5th best winning % all time, NFL staff" - then it was downgraded to "Harbaugh should be able to land a prime time 5 star QB - any he wants more or less - I mean Luck. Kids should cut off their non throwing arm to play for him"....now it's "its tough to get kids to come to Michigan because its cold".
Look this was the first QB Harbaugh went out to see after Jan 15th - he is a high target, Eason is a dream, Costello was reality. If he has dropped out without even wanting to come to Ann Arbor to meet Harbaugh on campus that's a pretty bad blow.
I finally got to the part of the thread that's about football.
How come the people in the back never move in this .gif?
I'm pretty sure that is a scene from the movie Dogma, and time is frozen around the main characters whilst some dilemna or plot point is laid out.
can consistently make good decisions and take care of the ball, they don't need to be world beaters.
Sounds like a good recipe for a 8 win season...Jim and the boys like world beaters who can drive the ball DOWN the field.
We've been down the turnover machine route before. It doesn't end in glory.
Was the one Brian Greise followed. Not a bad recipe.
Keep living in '97...that Starter jacket looks great on you.
griese also had like 35 future pros as teammates - i dont see um hitting that level again any time soon.
teams rarely win titles without dynamic QB play - its certainly been done, but it just makes the job that much harder for everyone else when teams arent scared of your QB
One of those future pros was Griese, he started around 100 games if memory serves me right. Not saying he was a pro bowler but still it takes a little talent to accomplish that.
Technically Griese was a Pro Bowler. Made it for this 2000 season but didn't play due to injury. I think his replacement was.... Elvis Grbac.
Your statement that team's can't win titles without dynamic QB play might have been true 20 years ago but the recent SEC NC run sort of refutes that statement. Other than Cam Newton I don't believe any of the recent SEC title team's have produced a legit NFL starting QB.
A dynamic college QB does not always have to turn into a legit NFL starting QB. Prime example: Tebow, Tim
Didn't Michigan, led by a QB that could never be accused of being dynamic, beat the dynamic college QB, Tebow, Tim?
It sucks, I guess, but there are definitely others. Makes sense considering where he's from, so I can't blame him for staying closer to home.
Well hell,
There's a reason California kids are such tough pulls out here. On to the next one........
I'm cool with Stanford, but SoCal's continued train of highly rated QB's when there are lots of opportunities at strong PAC-12 programs confuses the crap out of me.
Maybe there is anoth Cali QB that is a silent commit?! :)
Sounds like somebody's from California...
Maybe he is tired of my double posts?!
I wonder if the hoarding of QBs might eventually start scaring guys away. As great as competition is, if a HS senior looks at our QB depth, hard for them to think there would be opportunity to play early on. I'm certainly not complaining and I think competition is good, but we just got a lot of QB really fast and I would be surprised if it had no effect.
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but as long as Harbaugh can develop the less talented/ lower rated qb's then I'm fine with it. Keep in mind Cardale Jones was not a highly sought after qb. Win and the top recruits will come.
It's unlikely at this stage a true frosh QB would start at Michigan in 2016. The depth at QB will sort itself out and I would guess we will only take one QB in this cycle. My guess is not all of them will remain on the roster two years from now. Playing at Michigan for Harbaugh should be very appealing to a kid who has goals to make the NFL.
Although QB is a position of great need at the moment, doesn't having so many scholarship QB's hurt you by not being able to recruit to other positions?
We're coming off of 8-5, 7-6, and 5-7 seasons. Yes, we got Jim Harbaugh, but it's still going to be tough to grab top notch guys from out west until we see results on the field. I have no doubt that will happen and when it does, guys like KJ and others out west will be chomping at the bit.
it's the record as much as what appears to be chaos in the QB recruiting. I liked the Carr formula much better. If a kid can envision a formula where he is option 1A to to develop and take over why would he want to go to a situation where he has to keep his eye on transfers and the classes behind him? Yes, competition is good and shouldn't be eliminated but a coach having confidence in a recruits role is intoxicating.
Find this strange so soon after his decision to visit. Haven't read the premium info but is this legit from Costello or just a reporter's opinion?
He told our analysts he was still considering a visit either this week or next week, but told other reporters differently. It's looking less likely he visits, but he hasn't shut the door.
That's odd.
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Stanford signed two QBs in 2011, Evan Crower and Kevin Hogan, and Hogan's the only one left from that year. Stanford signed no QBs in 2012. In 2013, they signed only Ryan Burns, a 4-star out of VA. In 2014 they signed only Keller Chryst, a 4-star from Palo Alto. Stanford signed no QBs in the 2015 class.
That means that the only real competition for playing time for Costello would be Burns and Chryst, and they're two and three years ahead of him. Contrast that with Michigan, where he would have a senior Morris, and Malzone, Speight, Gentry, and whoever else JH recruits in the 2016 class, plus maybe a transfer or two.
Not to mention Stanford's a great school in his part of the country, which is not featured on the Weather Channel for subzero temperatures.
Did Shaw learn nothing from Harbaugh on the importance of having a lot of shots at a great QB?
But would you really attribute Andrew Luck being great to all the QBs that Harbaugh brought in? Other than Luck, Stanford hasn't had too much success from the QB position. Harbaugh's QB strategy isn't responsible for Stanford's wins.
Just because Luck being great had nothing to do with bringing in 2 QBs a year, and Stanford hasn't had success outside of Luck at the QB position since 2008 does not mean the 2 QBs a year wasn't responsible for Stanford's wins. Bringing in a lot of QBs allowed Harbaugh to find one who could be great and given the quality of the QBs since Luck left he certainly would have brought in a lot more than Shaw has.
It is just fun talking about qb depth for once, even though they lack experience. Harbaugh will be able to develop a serviceable qb from this group. And if we get lucky maybe one of these guys is the next Tom Brady.
Meh, if it is true then it probably wasn't a good fit. There are other QBs, and Michigan will have their chances.
Most insiders seem to think he'd be the best fit for Harbaugh...
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Well, if he views Stanford and USC as the two schools he's most inclined to actually want to play at based on this report, the fact that Harbaugh is the "best fit" for him is kinda irrelevant. Harbaugh is a great coach; he'd a be a great one for virtually every top QB in every class.
It sucks, but it's his loss if he would rather play for Shaw than Harbaugh.
I think Brandon Peters will be our guy.
Wasnt this kid a lock?
This California pipeline has kinda sucked so far
As it always does. If UM tries to make Cali it's main recruiting land, that's not going to work out well. They can get a few, but it'll always be difficult to pull kids from Cali to Michigan when big Cali schools want them.
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I think the big difference this time around is that Harbaugh has already successfully recruited California and has a lot of connections there. There will always be kids who want to play close to home, but there are also a lot of kids who know what a great coach Harbaugh is. I think we'll be fine.