Kind of OT--Pitt vs.Utah back to back time outs
For those of you that watched the Pitt-Utah game, I have a question. Is it against the rules to call back to back time outs? I thought the NCAA had changed that rule in the 2007 season, but I'm not sure. It must not be, since they let it happen, just wondering if there's any sort of rule governing that.
September 3rd, 2010 at 11:52 AM ^
I noticed that last night too. I thought they couldn't do it because of the icing the kicker BS that was starting to happen at the end of games.
September 3rd, 2010 at 11:54 AM ^
I think that is a rule in the NFL, not in College.
September 3rd, 2010 at 12:24 PM ^
I thought that was an NFL only rule...now I think the NCAA should adopt it after last night.
September 3rd, 2010 at 12:28 PM ^
Can't they just pass a rule that says that the time out must be requested before the center and offensive line have set, and they are allowed only 1 on field goals?
Seems like that would solve it.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:41 PM ^
When you can just bar back to back time outs. But the former won't work. Because what if you don't have enough guys on the field...or the wrong personnel for that formation...or someone forgets to cover someone.... Players call time out in those situations lots of times, and you can't really have it happen before the line has set. Even on Field Goals. If they send out a bunch of players, but then line up in an obvious fake formation or something, you may need that time out. If you're not prepared for whatever after 1 TO, well, you're pretty much to blame.
September 3rd, 2010 at 3:50 PM ^
Good point. Maybe bar timeouts all together when the kicker is on the field of play with less than x seconds remaining in either half. I know it sounds really odd, but if he enters the field it is considered an intent to kick a field goal. If the offensive team pulls him back in an act of trickery, they lose yardage for an illegal substitution or something. But they could still fake with the kicker on the field. Never seen anyone do it in that situation, but they would still have the option.
Teams would know that special teams would have to be fully prepared to get people on the field during likely field goal situations making it more of a practice and preparation issue.
September 3rd, 2010 at 12:40 PM ^
It is amazing how this dumb idea just proliferated in such a rapid fashion after Shanahan first did it in 2007. Now these coaches are like sheep and still think they're Stephen fucking Hawking when they pull this outta the bag. Guess what, it doesn't do shit, and you're just as likely to give a dude a reprieve after missing as you are in preventing the winning FG. Just let the dude kick; if he makes it he makes it, if he doesn't, he doesn't. Stop wasting our fucking time.
September 3rd, 2010 at 12:49 PM ^
I understand why they try to ice the kicker. However if I were a kicker I would have more time to vizualize and practice my follow through so I would think that a lot of kickers probably like the extra time.
September 3rd, 2010 at 1:57 PM ^
Yes, however if there is any doubt whatsoever in your mind, it gives you a chance to stew on it a bit. Sometimes practicing and trying to make it just so backfires.
September 3rd, 2010 at 12:52 PM ^
needs to examine the NFL's rule about consecutive timeouts.
The icing the kicker crap has to stop, no one wants to see celebrations nixed because of a timeout no one could hear.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:24 PM ^
Just make icing the kicker a delay of game penalty. During TOs that were called while the line is set, the referee can watch tape, count men on the field, check to see if the defense was set, etc. and if there were no issues, then assess a 5 yard penalty.
September 3rd, 2010 at 2:26 PM ^
I saw - surprise! - Nick Saban take advantage of this loophole last year. I hate it. I don't know if it's a good idea to outlaw this kind of thing entirely (I wouldn't want to eliminate the chance of calling a timeout to avoid a penalty, for instance), but they should at least outlaw calling two timeouts before one play.
September 25th, 2010 at 7:55 PM ^