Tennessee is not recruiting well just because they got 18 dudes
Kill not coaching today
Feel for him and his team. Yes its a distraction, but it also has to be a bit unnerving to see this happen regularly to your team's leader.
Two that we know of.
since he took over, according to ESPN. You'd think his FAMILY would encourage him to get out.
And yet what a fearless leader he is. I have a friend with epilepsy, and she gets seizures regularly, but from what I can tell, she tries to treat them as a simple reality rather than a frightening one.
Seriously--any person who stares down a neurological adversary like epilepsy and continues coaching Division I college football in a major conference has my respect. Imagine that your coach regularly has seizures and doesn't back down on high demands and expectations.
Nothing but respect and admiration for Jerry Kill's personality. I hope he keeps healthy.
alt view; maybe mine is wrong
It's his 5th seizure since taking the Minnesota job. Hope he recovers quickly
I am sure Kill is a great guy and coach, but if you are a recruit, how could you commit to play for this guy.
Free ride to a decent state school where it's your only "major program" offer?
Why not? He doesn't is ultimately staring a severe neurological problem in the face and telling it that he won't let it stop him.
It does intensify the pressure on having good assistant coaches, however.
...are far greater than Paterno for the last decade of his tenure. I think players and recruits recognize that the position coaches and coordinators have a lot more importance than is acknowledged by commentators.
Get well coach
When do they force him to retire for his health? Even if football isn't a cause of the seizures, his health is getting in the way of him doing his job.
The stress of football may or may not make his condition worse, but I guarantee it's not helping.
Gotta hang it up coach.
get well soon, but this is becoming unfair to the rest of the team & the AD.
There has to be another place in college football for a coach as passionate & talented as Kill other than on the sidelines on Saturdays.
And a good coach. Maybe he could be a coordinator or recruiter or a consultant. Something.
We don't know if the coaching job is causing more seizures. And if it is, then it's a personal decision to continue coaching in general between him, his family, and his doctor. Otherwise, a handicap should never disqualify someone from a job they are otherwise qualified for. Kill should be judged exactly how other coaches are: based in wins and how he runs the program. Saying he should quit just because of seizes is just as, if not more so, unfair to Kill.
The school should make any accomodation available to an employee with a handicap to allow them to do their job. A major piece of Kill's job is coaching on Saturdays. If he's unable to do so due to his handicap many weeks a year, what accomodation can they make? A blind person cannot be an airline pilot because they cannot fulfill the basic functions of the job.
Well, we do. He has repeatedly said, over and over again, that his condition is not exacerbated by stress. He's been dealing with repeated and unexpected seizures for years.
Yet at some point he has to take account that a condition that gives him repeated seizures is not conducive to some jobs, and it appears being the head coach of a football team is one of them.
Disagree. If Minn just came off a B1G championship and was a top-10 team with Kill missing a handful of games because of his condition, you think people would want him to retire? No. All that matters is wins. If his seizures are keeping the program from winning or going in the right direction, then he should be judged on THAT. But seizures alone are not reason to call for him to leave the program.
Fifth time since 2011 that he can't perform perhaps the biggest part of his job--coaching his team on the field.
That's, what, about 30 games, and he's missed part or all of 1/6 of them due to his health condition? I think it's admirable that he's taking a stand about epilepsy awareness, and it's nice his AD is so supportive, but at what point do you have to admit it's not a great sell that your coach unpredictably cannot perform his duties?
It's unfortunate he has this problem, but it's undeniably becoming a problem.
Not being able to do your job 5 times out of 30 could very well be seen as not being qualified to be the head coach.
If his doc tells him the stresses of coaching are causing these and they are diminishing his health he needs to hang em up. It's not worth it.
it's become a problem doing what he was hired to do.
rest up coach. get back out there soon.
I'm not going to get in whether this is a distraction to his team and whatnot. But before everyone calls for him to be fired, they should read up on how this affects the team. Coach Kill has epilepsy which is a condition most of us could use more education on. Not saying it is right or wrong, but before making baseless comments I think a lot of people could use some additional information.
My wife has epilepsy. If she was coaching a sports team & it caused her to seizure more then she would not be coaching anymore.
As in, you've had this discussion with her this morning? Or you know what she'd decide? Surely you don't mean you'd tell her what's best for her and she'd do it because you say so. I'm just curious as to source of certainty.
But before everyone calls for him to be fired, they should read up on how this affects the team.
Well, I can take a guess on how it affects their team. It's probably a terrible, frightening experience for the players and probably doesn't make them fired up for the game. Remember Michigan in the 1970 Rose Bowl after Bo's heart attack? The players admitted they weren't the same without their leader on the sidelines.
I feel bad for Kill, since coaching is obviously his passion, but it's getting to a point where I think he needs to seriously considering putting his own health first and taking a less-demanding position.
I feel bad for him. Football coaches are notorious control freaks. It must drive the football coach part of his personality absolutely crazy to not know when these attacks are going to occur next.
If you're a Minnesota fan, not only do you wish Kill well, you've got to hope the players somehow rally behind this and try to win the jug for Kill.
I respect the hell out of him, but football needs to come second to your health. Not fair to your family and your loved ones.
Isn't that up to his family and his loved ones? Maybe they would rather see him continue to do what he loves to do.
he's 2 for 2 in Ann Arbor I think
I know Kill is a resilient guy and a good coach. His records at his previous stops speak for themselves. But I think it might be time for him to throw in the towel and call it a career. At least from a coaching standpoint.
Its almost unfair to keep having to put your players through this week after week, and it undoubtedly affects their psyche on the field. They should be focused on winning football games, not their coach's health. I know this is completely out of Kill's control, and he's got Minnesota heading the right way, but it might be time for him to walk away from coaching. This is happening on an almost weekly basis now, it seems like.
get well coach.
They knew about this when they hired him. If they dumped him for a condition they accepted when they hired him they would have a substantial lawsuit ahead of them.
Gotta feel bad for both him and the team. Wishing him well.
Speedy recovery coach!
And to think the New York Times published an extended piece on his seizures less than eighteen hours ago...
If you're a Minnesota fan, this has to be troubling:
"Immediately after Jerry Kill has a seizure on the sideline, one longtime assistant takes over the headset and communicates with officials. The defensive coordinator handles the postgame news conference and splits the remaining news media obligations with the offensive coordinator. Should Kill miss practice, they revert to their schedule from a week earlier, with adjustments based on their next opponent."
It's routine. And that's sad.
Feel bad for the guy, hope he's okay. This is a very tough situation for both Kill, and Minnesota. I have to imagine if this condition of his continues either party might be forced into a tough decision soon.
With being in IL I've been hearing about his seizures for quite some time now with him coaching at SIU and NIU. I'm interested to know what effects stress has on his epilepsy and whether or not retiring would help. Health definitely comes first and it seems that through the years there hasn't been really any signs of improvement. Coach Kill is a great guy and I hope he's able to get this better under control. Best wishes in his recovery from today and going forward!
and his family, and I hope he can get back soon. Coaches prepare to substitute players on a notice basis as a matter of routine, but how often do they have to contend with the sudden repeated absence of a head coach? Tough situation.
Twincities.com had an interesting piece regarding Kill's issues with seizures back in August - (full article here)
Norwood Teague said then that he was looking at different areas over the course of this last offseason for Kill to work on in order to help control his epilepsy, but that he was also pleased with the progress in the offseason. Teague said that Kill had changed his lifestyle to help mitigate the seizures. There is also mention about trying to get Jerry Kill to delegate duties better.
It's a shame, and I really feel for Coach Kill and his team.
I remember some quotes from Bo's players that during the first Rose Bowl, when Bo had a heart attack before the game and was unable to coach the team, it truly affected their play.
Yet he went on to a great career.
I'm not sure how I feel about all this. I have a health condition and yet I continue to work, and would not want to hang 'em up. I can understand how someone else would feel the same way.
I believe he is a good coach, but this is tough on the team and the players. you actually pull for him, but he has so many seizures at what point does it become counterproductive. At the end of the day, it does raise awareness and hopefully creates a positive response in fighting the illness.
I remember being recruited by him in high school (20 years ago) and now have a cousin playing for him. Nice enough guy, and I hope he figures this thing out.
I know it sucks to fire/ask someone to resign for a medical reason, but it has to be done. You cannot have your head football coach consistently having seizures. Jerry Kill should also realize that he just needs to retire.
Have to wonder when enough is enough! Get well soon coach!
Some of you are on a bit of a pedestal. If he wants to coach D-1 football and Minnesota wants him to be their coach, then it is so. Like many things (even around these parts) it's none of our business. Respect the guy for what he's doing and the powers that be will see the out situation accordingly.
I don't think people are saying he shouldn't be able to coach, but don't tell me that it isn't distracting for a team when their head coach is experiencing really debilitating symptoms from his condition. And I'm guessing that it is affecting his ability to prepare each week.
I give Kill all the credit for working with his condition, but yeah, at some point it must be unnerving for your players to see you have a seizure on the sidelines.
Epilepsy is a lifelong condition. While many of the sentiments in this thread are well-meant, many others are missing the point. His teams are stronger because he has epilepsy, not weaker. There are negatives, sure -- he misses a few practices, and he misses one or two games a year. In today's case, a big game. But there are positives too.
I have a nephew with epilepsy. It's serious business, but at 15 now he's been though shit most kids have no clue about. "They cut a hole in my head. I'm serious!" He is a tough, tough, tough kid.
Should Jerry Kill drive a car? No.
Should he coach a football team, with "protocols" in place to adjust if he has seizure? Fuck yes. In the equation Minnesota uses in hiring and retaining him as a coach and role model, that experience is a plus, not a minus.
Some excellent points. The decision needs tp be Kill's. One thing, we don't really know how many seizures Kill has had in the past year. We only know about the game day ones. It's possible he may have had more. I don't know of any disease or illness that stress doesn't affect negatively. Epilepsy is certainly no exception. Life is stressful; almost any job can be stressful, but I have to think HC at at program like Minny is one of the more stressful and time consuming jpbs there is. One of our daughters has epilepsy, and one thing she absolutely must do (aside from taking her medication, avoiding alcohol and caffeine) is get enough rest. I'm not sure that is even possible to be a HC at that level. How many hours per week does the typical HC work? 60-70 or more?
It's up to Kill, but I do think his work load is very likely contributing to his seizures, and for his sake and his family, he needs to do something to lessen his workload and stress.
His teams are stronger because he has epilepsy, not weaker.
Are they really? So far he's 13-18 at Minnesota and 4-14 in league play. According to a Minnesota site I just visited, Tim Brewster was 5-13 in Big Ten play at this same juncture. (Granted, Kill had to inherit Brewster's mess while Brewster replaced Glen Mason, but still...)
I know what you're saying - that it should be inspirational to play for a guy who's gone through all this - but when it keeps happening, a couple times a season, at some point it's got to wear on the players.
I had one and it took me months to get everything to feel normal. Like a brain earthquake makes the way I precieved things just different. I don't believe I could have worked an all consuming job for months after. I feel for that lil bald dude.
It would be prudent to note that Jerry Kill's seizures are not a primary condition, but they began several years ago secondary to his developing kidney cancer. He has been treated for the cancer in the past and was in remission (i.e. no evidence of cancer on imaging tests). However, he has been various anti-seizure medications to control his seizures with variable success. Last year after he had a seizure, I am pretty sure that Coach Kill's doctors will probably be ordering some tests to evaluate for any clinical changes that might explain his seizures. One hopes that his health stabilizes, so that he can get back to his job coaching the Gophers.