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KenPom ratings are out; M is 4th in B1G

KenPom's opening projection for the season has Michigan 4th in the B1G, MSU 5th and Ohio 1st, for those interested, and the B1G opens as the toughest conference in the land.  Worst team by far is Penn State, but they would be ahead of at least one other team in every other conference.

www.kenpom.com for the uninitiated.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

- Mark Dantonio

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November 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 AM | So excited to see what this (Score:2)
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So excited to see what this team can do. Would be great to get some signature wins right off the bat.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 11:52 AM | Wow - five Big Ten teams in (Score:4 Normal)
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Wow - five Big Ten teams in the top 24.  The league is going to be a bloodbath.  Hopefully this will be the season we move past NCAA bubble status and comfortably make it in the tourney.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 11:52 AM | Sounds reasonable (Score:2 Normal)
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I'm not sure what to make of MSU this year.  Nix apparently has lost a lot of weight, which should help, and I expect Green to be all-Big 10, but so much of their season depends on guys who didn't do much last year (Payne, Appling to a lesser extent, since he was pretty solid as a frosh last year) or true freshmen (Dawson).  

On a side note, anyone know when Kenpom is going subscription only?

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 11:58 AM | I forget when but it's (Score:2)
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I forget when but it's written in the KenPom blog.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

- Mark Dantonio

Blogging the Virginia Cavaliers at http://fromoldvirginia.blogspot.com/<

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November 3rd, 2011 at 11:59 AM | November 11th (Score:2 Insightful)
AAB
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Thanks.  I should learn to read.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 12:29 PM | subscription!? (Score:2 Normal)
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that's a bummer. Someone have him watch The Social Network, pronto.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 1:50 PM | I've reached out to Pomeroy (Score:5 Normal)
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I've reached out to Pomeroy to see if it's possible to sponsor the M page; hopefully other Big Ten folk will step forth to keep  the rest of the league open. I'll let you guys know when he gets back to me.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 12:08 PM | Join the Club (Score:2 Normal)
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No clue what to expect out of the good guys (that's MSU) this year.  We will probably get bombed by Duke and UNC in the non-conference, as always, and then rally for the big 10 season. HOWEVER, the Big Ten is going to be TOUGH top to bottom.

 

Personally, I am just very happy to never have to watch Durrell Summers moap around anymore. I "like" the guys personalities on our team which makes it more fun to follow.

I still can't get too fired up for basketball, while football is on though.

Go Green!!

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November 3rd, 2011 at 12:20 PM | Bombing (Score:1)
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Yeah, UNC looks like a wrecking ball this year.

Whatcha gonna do, little brother?

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November 3rd, 2011 at 12:31 PM | So this RationalMSU fan makes (Score:-1 Flamebait)
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So this RationalMSU fan makes a username on a Michigan blog so he can bow down to our fan base, and get compliments for being such a 'good MSU fan'. Get off my court Sparty.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 12:38 PM | Alternative hypothesis (Score:3 Normal)
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he wanted to be able to talk about MSU with Michigan fans.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 12:39 PM | He can stay (Score:2)
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He's been around just as long as you.  He has actually given us some pretty good insights (like for U of M v MSU match-ups giving us a glimpse at the other side).  And he is rational, just as the user name implies.

Crunch. Zip. Live to fight another day.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 1:57 PM | His behavior after the MSU (Score:4 Normal)
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His behavior after the MSU game this year proved otherwise. His "Who's Obsessed with Who?" thread did it for me.

In my opinion, you can be a rival fan on another team's blog as long as you're behaving, and you'll get my respect. He lost mine a few weeks ago.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 1:51 PM | Don't be a jerk to a useful (Score:5 Normal)
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Don't be a jerk to a useful poster for no reason, please.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 12:21 PM | I find Draymond (Score:2 Normal)
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Green to be the singular most overrated player I can remember watching in the Big Ten.  I think he is out of shape all the time, I think he is a defensive liability, I think he is non-factor late in games and I think he is terrified to play where he is most effective which is on the interior.  i don't think he really brings anything to the table, and I think he attempts to be a "player-coach" when he is not even really a player.

Have you guessed yet, not a fan of Green.  i was also underwhelemed by Payne, and I don't think that Nix can lose or gain enough weight to make him more or less effective inside, as he is simply ineffective, not due to weight, but due to not being good.

In sum, I don't think State is very good, i think they are more likely to end up in the NIT than NCAA, and I expect another season sweep at the hands of the Wolverines.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 12:40 PM | I agree 100% with your (Score:1)
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I agree 100% with your opinion of Green. Not to mention he is a huge crybaby.I think his best year was his freshman year and he has not shown any improvement.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 3:28 PM | If Payne can put it together (Score:1)
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If Payne can put it together on the conditioning side he could be really dangerous (Conditioning was the problem right? I remember hearing that. If not I don't know why he wasn't out more). He showed some flashes in his 4 minute spurts last year that looked pretty impressive. 

Go Blue!

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November 4th, 2011 at 11:35 AM | Subscription (Score:1)
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Weekend of nov 12th

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November 3rd, 2011 at 12:06 PM | Hey MaizeAndBlueWahoo, did (Score:1)
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Hey MaizeAndBlueWahoo, did you live at 716 Oakland when you were a student?

I know it sounds strange, but I lived there and when I moved in there was a beer pong table with your avatar in the middle. I assumed the person previous also had an affiliation with U of Virginia

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November 3rd, 2011 at 12:14 PM | No, I lived in (Score:2)
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No, I lived in Charlottesville when I was a student.  I'm jealous of the beer pong table, though.  I want one.

"We've beaten Michigan the last four years.  So where's the threat?"

- Mark Dantonio

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November 3rd, 2011 at 12:09 PM | He has us projected at 10-8 (Score:1)
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He has us projected at 10-8 in the conference and #22 overall. He must have us projected to have a really good run in the OOC schedule.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 12:13 PM | OT: Any of the Virginia-area (Score:2 Normal)
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OT: Any of the Virginia-area Michigan fans going to the UVA/UM game on the 29th?

"Here we are at Ohio Stadium, in front of 10,000 alumni and 74,000 truck drivers." - Bob Ufer

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November 3rd, 2011 at 1:29 PM | Wow, didn't realize that was (Score:2 Normal)
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Wow, didn't realize that was happening! I live an hour away in Harrisonburg, and will have to figure out how to get tickets and make it to that game!

Where in VA are you? I've found one other guy in my area who's as obsessed with Michigan, and we've been watching games ever since. Would love to find more, or at least maybe meet up for an mgoblog tailgate/happy hour for the UVA game.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 2:31 PM | I'm in Richmond. I would (Score:1)
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I'm in Richmond. I would definitely be down for some sort of MGoMeetup before the game.

"Here we are at Ohio Stadium, in front of 10,000 alumni and 74,000 truck drivers." - Bob Ufer

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November 3rd, 2011 at 3:02 PM | Sweet. My name is Robert (Score:1)
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Sweet. My name is Robert Fasman. You can find me on facebook (I'm the only one) or e-mail me at rfasman@gmail.com. Always great to meet other fans in the MIchigan diaspora!

I'm sure my buddy Matt (also an mgoblog junkie) will want to come to the game as well.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 2:14 PM | I was actually just looking (Score:1)
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I was actually just looking at tickets for this now.  I like in Arlington and am trying to figure out if it would be better to go with the Bus & Ticket package being offered by the DC Alum Association or head down on my own.  The game being on a Tuseday makes it more difficult to get there.  

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November 3rd, 2011 at 1:31 PM | Preseason rankings are fodder. (Score:1)
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Even Ken's.

What were M and MSU preseason in kenpom last year?  I've tried to search it but can't find it. 

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November 3rd, 2011 at 2:49 PM | While it would be great to finally see ... (Score:1)
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the Maize and Blue derail Purdue this year and I do agree that Purdue losing Johnson and Moore does hurt them "big time".  However Hummel is the kind of player that actually makes everyone else on the floor a better player.   This is a unique characteristic that make Purdue better just because he is playing.  He can't take ove a game like Johnson or Moore ... but I would never say that he is overrated.

Go Blue!

No place on earth I'd rather be on a football Saturday than Michigan Stadium !

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November 3rd, 2011 at 5:23 PM | Sounds about right (Score:1)
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Sounds about right to me with Burke's ability to handle the point being the biggest question goin into the season.

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November 3rd, 2011 at 6:19 PM | First a question: How does (Score:1)
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First a question: How does KenPom determine his preseason rankings?  Is it solely based on returning minutes and last year's stats?

Second an observation:  KenPom has the only home loss against Ohio State.  While it would be annoying to get swept by OSU, that would be a pretty good season.  It looks like the closest win is a 55% chance against Wisconsin but we have a few close road losses that could be more easily flipped.  48% chance of victory at Indiana, 49% at Nebraska and a 50% chance of victory against Memphis in Hawaii.  Hopefully 2 of those 3 could turn into victories and no more than one "surprise" home loss 20-9 (11-9 or 10-8) record.  I'd take it.

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