DavidP814

August 5th, 2013 at 1:12 PM ^

If Peralta starts serving his suspension immediately, then he can come back for the playoffs, correct?  Since 109 + 50 < 162, I'm assuming Peralta can come back for the last series of the regular season and any playoff games.  I'm asking b/c I read the Wojo article speculating that Peralta might have played his last game as a Tiger yesterday.

WMUgoblue

August 5th, 2013 at 1:28 PM ^

This is most likely correct, I think we've seen Jhonny's last game in an Ole English D (one of Dombrowski's most underrated trades by the way.) I'm waiting to hear what Scherzer has to say after the way he ripped on Braun for PED use and said he'd wait and see what happened to Jhonny before talking again.

Michigan4Life

August 5th, 2013 at 11:29 PM ^

when Biogensis report leaked to the media, the Tigers knew that they have Peralta available for a short time but they don't know when.  If they don't want him back, they could've benched or cut him before the suspension.  The fact they still are playing him up til yesterday tells me that they would want him back for the playoff run.

Butterfield

August 5th, 2013 at 1:17 PM ^

He would be eligible as you suggest - but if the Tigers have faltered and are out of the race and want to stick in some young guys, he'd likely be done.  Or conversely, if they are rolling with Iglesias and don't want to mess with the chemistry, he may be left off the playoff roster (like Melky Cabrera was for the Giants last year). 

joeyb

August 5th, 2013 at 1:21 PM ^

They'll get Peralta some time in those 3 games to see how he does. If they are down by a run in the playoffs and need a big hit, I could see them putting Peralta in. I could also see them starting Peralta and then bringing in Iglesias for late-game defense. However, if Iglesias is hitting well, Peralta will sit on the bench.

WMUgoblue

August 5th, 2013 at 1:16 PM ^

Well Perez will likely be called back up, (I heard he never reported Erie in the first place after his demotion likely because the organization knew they'd need him today.) Hopefully Infante can go on a rehab assignment this week and Miguel can continue to heal because this team is going to need one of those 2 to play in Cleveland this week.

WMUgoblue

August 5th, 2013 at 2:18 PM ^

Don't let facts get into the way of your narrative, but his bat certainly isn't awful.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5751&position=2B
 

He may not walk much but he hit nearly .300 in Erie and he's adjusted fairly well to major league pitchers since his horrendous first series against the White Sox, he'll provide just as much if not more with his glove and bat than Ramon Santiago.

 

WolvinLA2

August 5th, 2013 at 1:34 PM ^

The weird thing, it was all Latin guys and one Jew (Braun). The Latin part makes sense since the place is in Miami, but it's kinda weird how Braun fits in since he's a Jewish kid from the Valley who plays in Milwaukee.

pfholland

August 5th, 2013 at 1:18 PM ^

On the one hand if he used PEDs he should be suspended, full stop. On the other hand he's a free agent at the end of the year, so it's possible that he would agree to the suspension even if he never used PEDs to avoid the possibility of greater damage to his market value should he challenge the suspension.

thisisme08

August 5th, 2013 at 1:27 PM ^

I dont think you'll ever see someone take a suspension "just because".  The MLB has these guys dead to rights and they know it.  This is their "get out of jail" free card and they are smart to take it. 

A-Rod on the otherhand needs to be banned for life; getting caught once ('03), confessing and saying he was clean, then getting caught up in this as well as allegations that he bought off a witness and by far had the most involvement w/ Biogenisis means he should be done for life. 

 

boliver46

August 5th, 2013 at 2:12 PM ^

part is complete B.S.  You KNOW the NYY knew A-Rod was a dirty player and have taken advantage of it over the years.  Now that they're on the outs and it's not in their fiscal best interests to keep him around they will "magically" get to have a get out of jail free card in regards to the worst contract in professional sports???

FCK the Spank-ees.  They get what they deserve for that contract.  They shouldn't be able to get out of all of it.

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Michigan Arrogance

August 5th, 2013 at 2:16 PM ^

i hope you say the same thing at the end of Fielders contract.

and let's not play the "yanks know he was on roids" card b/c EVERYONE knew everybody was on roids for more than a decade.

Michigan Arrogance

August 5th, 2013 at 3:46 PM ^

So in spite of the repeated offenses of the substance abuse policy and repeated  assurances that he had stopped (which he lied about) ARod should just get 100 Million dollars for not playing any games.

 

At what point should the risk-reward decision balance for these players who consider taking steroids actually  tip toward risk?

 

I was dissappointed to hear that Selig apparently won't invoke the best-interest-of-baseball clause that prevents ARod from playing while appealing. I don't give a shit if the Yankees have to pay him or not, except that I think baseball has to start voiding contracts of violators. 50 games won't do it. 200 for ARod won't be enough either if he gets the 100Million.

 

 

boliver46

August 6th, 2013 at 8:55 AM ^

I wasn't as clear as I could have been.

I wasn't implying A-Rod should get his $$$ - just that the NYY shouldn't be able to crawl out from under the contract they signed him to - they knew he was dirty in 2003, and again when he signed the latest crap-tastic contract.  To get overarching "forgiveness" and get all that cap space cleared is what I am calling foul on.

They should be responsible (at least in the eyes of the cap) for most if not all for the bulk of the contract - not that they PAY it - but that it impacts their cap; Similar to "dead money" in the NFL where contracts still affect teams long after their bad decisions.

I appreciate your insight.

Mercury Hayes

August 5th, 2013 at 1:23 PM ^

He's going to play. Especially in the playoffs, if the Tigers make it. He will get put in as a pinch hitter if nothing else. Roster flexes at that point so it will be an extra weapon.

jmdblue

August 5th, 2013 at 1:35 PM ^

The roster goes from 40 back to 25 at teh start of the playoffs.  A few tough choices were made at that point last year.  No way does a completely rusty Peralta take one of those spots (even before taking into account he's a cheater and deserves to be removed for at least the remainder of the year).

Schembo

August 5th, 2013 at 1:45 PM ^

It's a tough call.  He was probably our best hitter in the playoffs last year, at least in the World Series anyways.  I think alot of it depends on how the bottom of the lineup is hitting at the end of the season.

Crash

August 5th, 2013 at 1:38 PM ^

We're not going to want Peralta back anyway.  He's probably roidin' it up right now because he knew he was caught.  When he gets off his suspension he's going to look like Quagmire after discovering the internet.

mgobaran

August 5th, 2013 at 1:38 PM ^

Does anyone know the timeline of Peralta's PED use? I understand that he needs to be suspended to keep the game clean, but at the same time, it would suck for the Tigers to be punished by losing one of their better bats after not reaping the rewards of Jhonny's PED use.

Yeoman

August 6th, 2013 at 9:28 AM ^

...but he's 38. Coming back from two years out of baseball at age 40 (well, he'll be three months shy of it)? And without the benefit of PEDs?

It's effectively a lifetime ban; he's got no reason not to fight it.. The games he plays while it's under appeal are probably all he has left.

Well...Well...Well

August 5th, 2013 at 1:56 PM ^

A few people have already metioned that Peralta might be rusty even if he were to return at the end of the season. Because he doesn't have the opportunity to play on a daily basis, the burden will be entirely on him to stay in game shape . He also won't have an opportunity for a minor league stint at the end of his suspension as the minor league seasons will be mostly over. I agree with those who have said that this might be the end of his Tiger career, especially if Iglesias becomes a consistent player.

I believe Melky Cabrera was eligible to return for the playoffs last season with the Giants, and obviously they chose not to bring him back.

maize-blue

August 5th, 2013 at 2:13 PM ^

I don't think he'll be back in a Tiger's uniform even though he will be eligble at the end of the season.

The Tigers should be able to make the playoffs without him and Iglesias is obviously a better fielder.

But I could see an instance in which he returns if the Tigers are in a funk at the end of the season and need some offense. The Tigers have a narrow window in which to win the World Series and it may only be this season. If it means helping to win it all I would bring him back, if he's not too rusty. People would have issues probably with that but I would not.

WMUgoblue

August 5th, 2013 at 2:23 PM ^

The thought that "this year" is the only season they have a chance to win the World Series makes zero sense to me. They have their best players locked up in their prime producing years and they don't lose much from the current team after this year (Benoit is the only one that comes to mind) and they have a likely young contributor in Castellanos ready to help the team when needed. The window to win a title is 2-3 years then we get into Phillies territory of old players making big money and not contributing as much as needed.