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June 24th, 2011 at 9:24 AM
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Kalis & Wormley

I just listened to the Recruiting Roundup podcast and Sam was clear that he did not expect any commitments from these two on SATURDAY.  Excuse the caps lock but I felt that Sam was giving a hint by continually saying the word SATURDAY with extra emphasis - perhaps meaning that committments are more likely on Sunday/Monday?  Maybe just wishful thinking/hearing on my part, but in any event  he reaffirmed that we are looking very good for both of these guys.

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June 24th, 2011 at 9:27 AM | Kalis (Score:5 Normal)
Mitch Cumstein
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I'm not sure why people expect him to commit so soon? I mean he has never been on campus and he just decommitted.  I realize recruiting isn't always rational, but I would think fresh after decommitting he would take his time a little bit. This all comes with the same caveat as other posted have said: then again, I don't know shit.

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June 24th, 2011 at 9:35 AM | I"m hoping he's the kind of (Score:2)
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I"m hoping he's the kind of kid that committed early to OSU b/c he doesn't like the recruiting process and when he found the right place he said yes and got it over with.  Then it quickly became the wrong place in late May...

Now that he's not committed, let's hope that UM is the right place and he'll want to be committed again and get it over with.  

Otherwise, I see your point.  Because if the only reason he committed early to OSU was because he had only ever thought about being a Buckeye, then he (and Dunn for that matter) may wait until February and eat up the experience and 5 free campus visits before deciding.  This is what the 'Bamas, USCs, and Floridas are hoping for.

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June 24th, 2011 at 10:24 AM | actually, from what I (Score:1)
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actually, from what I remember reading about Kalis,  it is the latter. The guy grew up a Buck fan and always wanted to go there. There was never any question about where he wanted to go until the thought of severw sanctions and a coach search/debacle.

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June 24th, 2011 at 2:50 PM | posted from droid (Score:3 Normal)
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sorry this doesn't revolve around Kalis but word is from the osu training camps is that Dunn is now solid with osu. he was apparently in Columbus on Thursday with his family and visiting with coaches and talking to at least one families recruit in derrick green. I've also seen all of the bill green tweets about Dunn decommitting this week sometime so its hard to know what to think. anyway, that was just the info from bucknuts.

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June 24th, 2011 at 2:52 PM | Kalis was "solid" as well a (Score:1)
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Kalis was "solid" as well a week or two ago.  Recruitng is a roller-coaster, just enjoy the ride.

June 24th, 2011 at 4:11 PM | better (Score:2)
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better "buckle up"............

June 24th, 2011 at 9:49 AM | "I'm not sure why people expect him to commit so soon?" (Score:5 Normal)
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The shift in recruiting to early commitments has turned many fans into spoiled brats who can't wait fifteen minutes between Hello posts. If some of these folks have to wait until Signing Day to find out where their favorite 5-star is going, they're going to need mental health counseling.


June 24th, 2011 at 9:55 AM | No commitments this weekend?!?!?! (Score:5 Normal)
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Well then....

June 24th, 2011 at 10:15 AM | Fantastic. Loved Ian McKellan (Score:1)
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Fantastic. Loved Ian McKellan in the role of No. 2, although the remake paled in comparison to the original.

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June 24th, 2011 at 12:57 PM | You know who to blame (Score:2 Normal)
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June 24th, 2011 at 9:28 AM | I'm out of town (Score:1)
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& can't listen, so thx for the update. 

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June 24th, 2011 at 9:32 AM | We will see (Score:2 Normal)
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You may be reading too much into Sam's statements, but at the same time, I think that we are in great shape with both of these guys.  Landing a 5* OL (Kalis) and a highish 4* DE (Wormley), along with the possible to likely commits of a highish 4* OL in Diamond and Dunn (4-5* RB) would seriously take this class from very good to elite.  What's crazy is that it is likely that we get at least 3 of the 4 names that I mentioned.

June 24th, 2011 at 9:50 AM | Don't forget (Score:3 Normal)
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Jarred Wilson is meeting with his coaches this afternoon, and might decide as soon as today.

He is also good at the footballs.

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June 24th, 2011 at 9:54 AM | Wilson.... (Score:1)
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Yes please.  Just based on need, this may be the most important one. 

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June 24th, 2011 at 9:55 AM | Wilson (Score:2)
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A true safely - yes, please.  Would that pretty much finish out our DB portion of the class?

June 24th, 2011 at 10:03 AM | Other than Jeremy Clark from (Score:2)
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Other than Jeremy Clark from Kentucky, yes I think this wraps up the DB recruiting. Sam mentioned this morning that the coaches may offer Clark a scholarship early instead of the greyshirt if Wilson decides to go elsewhere. We're battling ND and PSU for Wilson's commit, so there's good competition for his services.

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June 24th, 2011 at 12:17 PM | Agreed (Score:1)
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Once the visit takes place we'll be in a great position with him. Visiting campus with these coaches would put most kids on commitment watch. This process has probably been hell for Kalis in Ohio but Hoke uber allies will make him feel very comfortable and reassured. Heck I feel that way every time they give an interview, they're very engaging.

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June 24th, 2011 at 9:33 AM | I noticed that emphasis too (Score:2)
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Not sure if it meant anything.  He talked about both guys earlier this week, and said he didn't expect a commitment.  Don't remember if he said don't expect it SATURDAY with the same emphasis.

June 24th, 2011 at 9:34 AM | Soem poster on the Scout Free (Score:1)
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Some poster on the Scout Free Boards who claims to be close to Kalis said not to expect his recruitment to last past this weekend. That seems to be the only (not-even-verified) source of expectation. Other than that, it seems to be all conjecture.

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June 24th, 2011 at 9:40 AM | Question (Score:2)
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DGDestroys, putting aside timing, do you think that we are strongly leading with Kalis and Wormley now, or is that just interweb rumormongering?

June 24th, 2011 at 9:43 AM | Wormley-Yes Kalis-Strongly (Score:5 Normal)
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Wormley-Yes

Kalis-Strongly leading? Meh. But in a very good position with/maybe slight lean? Yes.

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June 24th, 2011 at 10:03 AM | First part is right, second (Score:5 Normal)
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First part is right, second part is not.

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June 24th, 2011 at 10:09 AM | Geez, just giving out enough (Score:1)
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Geez, just giving out enough information to wet my appitite, yet not giving anymore...classic TomVH.

June 24th, 2011 at 10:24 AM | Classic Tom, playing the (Score:5 Funny)
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Classic Tom, playing the internet version of "just the tip".

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June 24th, 2011 at 10:12 AM | Yowza!   Since I find it (Score:2)
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Yowza!

 

Since I find it unlikely that Kalis is not at least a slight UM lean, I'll have to assume it means he is about to drop for the good guys....

 

June 24th, 2011 at 10:15 AM | Like I said below, the Kalis (Score:5 Normal)
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Like I said below, the Kalis Update on the board is exactly what's happening right now.

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June 24th, 2011 at 10:55 AM | Question for you, Tom... (Score:5 Normal)
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What is it like to be simultaneously so trusted and well respected on this board, and yet so consistantly ignored/second-guessed/doubted?

"I know Tom talked to the guy, and the guy said his favorite food is pizza, but I have to imagine based on random conjecture that he likes burgers more."

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June 24th, 2011 at 11:04 AM | I don't think I (Score:2)
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I don't think I "ignored/second-guessed/doubted?" Tom at all, but thanks.  

All I did was infer that when Tom said the OP was wrong it meant that Kalis was MORE interested than the OP thought.  What did you take form Tom's post that the OP was wrong about Kalis?  Care to share your "random conjecture?"

June 24th, 2011 at 1:26 PM | No offense intended (Score:2)
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It wasn't intended for you. We all do it from time to time. But it seems to happen every time. Tom says "X." We sayn "Really? No way. Y U No Say Z?"

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June 24th, 2011 at 11:29 AM | Not everyone reads every (Score:5 Normal)
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Not everyone reads every post on here, so it's bound to happen which is fine. I do sometimes wonder if people are actually reading my stuff sometimes if there's a front page post or a diary and someone posts the exact same thing from elsewhere. 

It happens on Twitter a lot, too. I'll post something and someone will ask a question that's answered by my tweet. It's like a weird game of Jeopardy. I don't mind though, I like talking to everyone. 

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June 24th, 2011 at 4:14 PM | I'll (Score:1)
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I'll take cryptic tweets for $2000 Alex

June 24th, 2011 at 12:50 PM | Human Sacrifice, Dogs and Cats, Living Together (Score:3 Normal)
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No one listens when they say don't shut off the containment unit.

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June 24th, 2011 at 11:41 AM | In that update, I want to (Score:4 Normal)
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In that update, I want to make this part clear, that it's not 100% that Kyle will take the other visits. I'll explain everything that happened once it's over if someone reminds me. 

The decision to take visits was decided by he and his coach so he can think about things. Visits can sometimes change that, but we'll see.

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June 24th, 2011 at 1:01 PM | I think it's pretty clear (Score:1)
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And trust me, I'll remind ya!!

June 24th, 2011 at 10:03 AM | I've followed that guy's thread too. (Score:5 Normal)
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I am usually very skeptical, but for some reason I find myself believing a random poster on a Scout free board. 

He's had an account for 2 years, has only 11 posts on the Michigan site (31 total of all sites), and the bulk of them are about Kalis. 

Either he's got some info, or is a sleeper-troll who has been waiting for the prime moment and was activated when the Kalis decommit happened.. 

June 24th, 2011 at 10:20 AM | Ha (Score:2)
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"Either he's got some info, or is a sleeper-troll who has been waiting for the prime moment and was activated when the Kalis decommit happened.. "

 

I'm just imagining Denzel Washington saying this in the the movie "The Siege". 

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June 24th, 2011 at 10:24 AM | A Manchurian Candidate Troll? (Score:1)
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A Manchurian Candidate Troll? Such a notion is too movie-worthy to be possible!

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June 24th, 2011 at 11:36 AM | Kalis's high school coach (Score:1)
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qouted in today's Cleveland Plain Dealer says he has "put a lid" on Kalis and that "it will be awhile" before he makes a commitment.

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June 24th, 2011 at 9:39 AM | Blake Bars will commit before (Score:1)
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Blake Bars will commit before both of them.  Raback it.  BOOM.

June 24th, 2011 at 9:47 AM | Don't worry guys, I'll be (Score:4 Normal)
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Don't worry guys, I'll be going to Blimpies on Sat and if (when) I run into him, you KNOW I'll be all up in his underpants about committing.

 

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June 24th, 2011 at 9:51 AM | Be sure to post on his FB wall how much you want him at Michigan (Score:5 Normal)
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We've been assured that recruits are really swayed by complete strangers doing that.


June 24th, 2011 at 10:07 AM | He's about to get Congressman (Score:5 Normal)
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He's about to get Congressman Weiner'd

 

 

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June 24th, 2011 at 12:04 PM | Thanks a lot, I just laughed (Score:3 Normal)
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Thanks a lot, I just laughed out loud in court.

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June 24th, 2011 at 2:56 PM | Funny... (Score:2)
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My reaction was a tad different, I threw up I'm my mouth.

 
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June 24th, 2011 at 10:11 AM | Two doubles.. (Score:2 Normal)
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With cheddar, grilled onions and pickles with a basket of shrooms plz.  As far a Kalis goes he may be feeling pressre only in that if he figures he's going blue anyway, it's to the benefit of his future team to commit early, maintain this bizarre momentum,  and help with landing the next guy.

 

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June 24th, 2011 at 10:37 AM | I'll take a quint with swiss, (Score:1)
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halopenos, bacon, and olives. Some zucchini from the deep fryer with plenty of malt vinegar.

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June 24th, 2011 at 9:57 AM | What I (Score:5 Normal)
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What I laid out in the Kalis Update the other day is exactly what's happening with him.



He has told me everything that's going on, mainly off the record, so that update is what he's thinking. He has very high interest in Michigan.



http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/tomvh-kyle-kalis-update

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June 24th, 2011 at 10:07 AM | Tom, since you're up and (Score:1)
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Tom, since you're up and about, I was wondering what you thought the State of the OLine was outside the Big Fish people are all giddy about? Specifically, with Thurston looking like a Husker, Mullen gone, Olson gone, and Bars about to drop, where do we stand if we don't get Bars?

I guess Bisnowaty is the only name left, does he have any real interest, or are we trailing Penn St. and Pitt?

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June 24th, 2011 at 10:13 AM | I think thhe coaches have (Score:4 Normal)
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I think thhe coaches have gone back and forth on whether to take 2 or 3 more linemen. With Diamond and Kalis in the position they're in, the coaches at most have one more spot to fill.

You mentioned Bars and Bisnowaty, Bars as he said in my interview is announcing within a week. If they miss on those two the cochra can sit back and wait for guys like Garnett and Banner to visit and see what happens. If they were to only get Kalis and Diamond I don't think they would mind. You might see a few new names pop up too if they decide that they do want 3 more in this class.

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June 24th, 2011 at 12:04 PM | I'll take Tom's word for it (Score:1)
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Apparently, Scout is not in the know as they dropped him from High level of interest to Medium. Looking forward to hearing what he can't share with us right now!

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