Just some bad breaks

Submitted by mrjblock24 on
What the... -Koger/Webb/Grady had 4-5 drops together. That'll kill a drive easier than any other. -Denard had two possessions concluding with two turnovers. He is a freshman, but one drive had a Koger drop and a missed 12 men on the field penalty. -Brandon Graham's blocked punt: how many times have you seen a blocked punt start to roll back upfield? He scoops that up for 6, and that game could've been a lot closer. Instead we fumble it away. - The short series that caused a safety. 'Nuff said. - Tate spiking with 13 seconds left in the 2nd QT? Put one in the end-zone, give yourself a chance guys. - Anyone else's heart stop a beat when Hemingway and Warren collided? - Kevin Leach's knee hits the punter's toe and gets called for "roughing." I love Rich Rodriguez. But I'm going to ask this question: is he too stubborn of a coach? While I think he's got a great offensive mind and is a pretty good game tactician, it seems like issues regarding personnel and mental mistakes he's unwilling to take responsibility for. That's not an accusation, but just an honest question. You can only blame dropped balls, fumbles, and botched snaps on the players for so long, right? We've been making those mistakes since he's arrived...is that really just the young players, or could he be doing something differently?

VictorsValiant09

October 24th, 2009 at 7:56 PM ^

"Bad breaks." But here's the thing: we're 8 games into the season, this should not be happening. For me, the onus is on the players to finally put a mistake-free game together. What have we heard in the press conferences every week? "We'll correct those things next week." I for one, am running out of patience for the players to play a game sans miscues. It's been 8 games now.

RockinLoud

October 24th, 2009 at 9:29 PM ^

Delaware State much? Oh... that doesn't count? Well then, I have to assume since I myself have played in some pretty crappy weather that that might have something to do with it now? That and PSU is a pretty solid team over all who, like most teams, is improving every week. That's no excuse, though, PSU clearly had no problems playing not optimal conditions. We just have a ways to go, people need to realize that and accept it and be happy that considering where we were at last year and that we have two true freshman quarterbacks (along with numerous other hurdles) we're not doing THAT bad. Today was our first truly BAD game all around; well, maybe MSU to some extend, but I don't think it was as bad as today. We're on our way, hopefully. We'll see how the team responds next week. EDIT: AND something like 70% of our team are freshmen and sophomores... that does not = domination.

MGoObes

October 24th, 2009 at 7:59 PM ^

dropped balls, fumbles, and botched snaps are something we just started doing? are you high? and do people not realize this team is almost entirely freshmen and sophomores? a little patience

bronxblue

October 24th, 2009 at 7:59 PM ^

Regarding RR - I don't think he is against taking responsibility for his bad plays. At times he does hold his players to a standard that is different than under Carr, who basically took all the blame for every bad play. I do think that RR feels a little lost at times out there with the play calling - he has two freshmen and a mediocre OL, which really limits what he can do.

victors2000

October 24th, 2009 at 9:00 PM ^

Good! The coaches have to take the onus of this defeat upon themselves; the turnovers, the drops, the defensive woes...all correctable, but dang it, they should of been corrected before now...losing to Penn St. is something everyone took into consideration, but getting blown out due to our miscues? Not to many folks took that into consideration...

bronxblue

October 24th, 2009 at 8:05 PM ^

While you can't trace 25 points to the miscues, there were moments during that game when a score or a turnover could have changed the complexion and how both teams responded. Every time UM made any headway, something bad seemed to happened that gave the momentum back to PSU. I still think PSU was the better team, but I also don't think they are 25 points better.

Rbigdog222

October 24th, 2009 at 8:01 PM ^

I, while I might be the only one, don't see why we don't put some of the super athletic,quick, young studs we do actually have on the defensive side of the ball in? They can't do any worse than what we seen today, can they? Really, Turner has to be better than Kovacs or Williams at this point.

estours717

October 24th, 2009 at 8:06 PM ^

I take all the blame for this loss. In our two blowout* losses I missed the first half and had to listen to the second on the AM. This will not happen again, I promise you. *It was, OT or not.

blue_shift

October 24th, 2009 at 8:06 PM ^

Even if we had gotten most or all of those breaks, our defense played poorly. And as much as it pains me to say it, it's a talent issue. Greg Robinson's schemes are actually pretty good in my opinion. Hell, GERG's defense won a Super Bowl, so the guy knows what he's doing on that side of the ball. But until we get serious about recruiting better defensive talent, even our best schemes are going to fail. When you're mismatched in terms of talent, there's not a whole lot you can do. If we want to be any good on defense next year, we must keep GERG. We can't bring in yet another defensive coordinator and hope that he magically fixes things. Consistency builds great teams - on both sides of the ball. Our players will return next year knowing the system, and that should help us out alone. It's critical to remember that real change takes time. It feels ambiguous at first. It's incremental. But it does happen, and we just have to trust that Rich Rod et al are competent enough to make it happen. I think they are doing a pretty good job so far. But damn, we need some talent if we hope to build up a solid defense.

spacemanspiff231

October 24th, 2009 at 11:20 PM ^

Our defense is not very good, but it's not b/c of Greg Robinson nor is it b/c of our talent. We recruit pretty good talent defensively, but if they're not getting coached up, they're never going to look good. By now, our defense should be better than it is. Obi Ezeh is a three year starter.... THREE YEARS. He played pretty well his freshman year. Two years later, two of those years being under our linbackers coach Hopson, he's not any better. Tony Gibson is also notoriously not a very good secondary coach. I like our schemes that Robinson is installing, but we need to progress the talent on this team. That is on the position coaches. Our defensive line coach is pretty good, but Tony Gibson and Jay Hopson are both pretty bad.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

October 24th, 2009 at 8:34 PM ^

-Koger/Webb/Grady had 4-5 drops together. That'll kill a drive easier than any other. **That's not bad breaks, that's bad football. -Denard had two possessions concluding with two turnovers. He is a freshman, but one drive had a Koger drop and a missed 12 men on the field penalty. **The 12 men penalty would have been very borderline and had absolutely nothing to do with him throwing a pick. It would have been a very lucky break had it actually been called, not a bad break that it didn't. -Brandon Graham's blocked punt: how many times have you seen a blocked punt start to roll back upfield? He scoops that up for 6, and that game could've been a lot closer. Instead we fumble it away. **So fall on the ball instead. There's a reason they coach guys to do that. - The short series that caused a safety. 'Nuff said. **Bad break? THIS??? Are you f&%$ing serious? That was shitty, shitty football. That was bad penalties, poor-ass blocking, and miscommunication. Calling this series a bad break is just lame excuse-making, plain and simple. - Tate spiking with 13 seconds left in the 2nd QT? Put one in the end-zone, give yourself a chance guys. **Bad decision-making isn't the same thing as a bad break. That's partly a freshman goof and partly on the coaches. - Anyone else's heart stop a beat when Hemingway and Warren collided? **The first actual bad break you mentioned. - Kevin Leach's knee hits the punter's toe and gets called for "roughing." **Another unlucky deal, yes, but we were down like 32-10 already. Quit making excuses for lousy football. That wasn't a game that could have gone our way "if only."

KBLOW

October 24th, 2009 at 8:38 PM ^

How can one ever blame the coaches for dropped passes and fumbles? Was great coaching the reason why Mike Hart never fumbled? Was it Carr's fault Hart fumbled twice in his last game?

chally

October 24th, 2009 at 8:53 PM ^

While the argument seems sensible, I can't help thinking about the muffed punts (analogous to a dropped catch). I don't recall seeing more than 1 or 2 of those in the last 4-5 years under Lloyd (yes, there were probably more, but I don't recall them). Now, we get nearly 1 per game. And it's not just one guy. We've cycled through like 8 punt returners the last two years, and no one can hang on to the ball. Somewhere, coaching has to be the cause of this. I can't accept that it is just some random, fluky, bad luck, or a string of player mistakes.

michman79

October 24th, 2009 at 9:13 PM ^

I'm really mad about the play calling. Especially the plays where RR calls for wide open TE's to drop wide-open passes. I'm also unhappy when he calls for the protection to break down and let Tate run for his life. I was also really disappointed when he called for Carlos to fumble on that sudden change after the blocked punt. But the worst call was clearly when he told the Kickoff team to let PSU return the kickoff for 58yards into our own half of the field. What was RR thinking?