Pretty good time. I was fearing worse for him.
so much for that
Junior Hemmingway runs a 4.50 40 yard dash
February 26th, 2012 at 10:36 AM
#1
Junior Hemmingway runs a 4.50 40 yard dash
February 26th, 2012 at 10:40 AM | 
He also completed 21 reps on
He also completed 21 reps on
February 26th, 2012 at 12:31 PM |
Obviously he was motivated to
Obviously he was motivated to
Obviously he was motivated to get to his jersey number. 21 reps for number 21.
"He has an uncanny ability to get kids to believe in him and believe in themselves. He doesn't do it with smooth words. He's not smooth. He does it by being the same genuine person day after day." ~Jason Whitlock on Brady Hoke
February 26th, 2012 at 2:57 PM |
In other news...
In other news...
Hemingway recently inked a book deal:
I Benched 21
The Legend of Jacked Up Receivers
Go Blue!
February 26th, 2012 at 10:41 AM |
Was he running that fast the
Was he running that fast the
Was he running that fast the entire time he was here?
February 26th, 2012 at 10:43 AM |
Hard to believe manningham
Hard to believe manningham
Hard to believe manningham ran a high 4.6 in his first try.
Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.
February 26th, 2012 at 11:25 AM |
Wasn't Manningham running at
Wasn't Manningham running at
Wasn't Manningham running at less than 100%? Also, he could have been high.
"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt
February 26th, 2012 at 11:31 AM |
Oh yeah you're right because
Oh yeah you're right because
Oh yeah you're right because he only improved his time when they put a huge plate of nachos at the finish line.
Not that I loved Rich Rod less, but that I loved Michigan more.
February 26th, 2012 at 12:02 PM |
Most proven drug test ever
Most proven drug test ever
Most proven drug test ever
February 26th, 2012 at 12:15 PM |
So
So
Didn't stop Michael phelps...
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February 26th, 2012 at 1:25 PM |
Or
Or
Charles Rogers
February 26th, 2012 at 5:49 PM |
The problem..
The problem..
with Phelps was that once you put the nachos in the pool it tends to buzz kill the muchies.
"True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is nois
February 26th, 2012 at 10:49 PM |
Bull... how else do you eat
Bull... how else do you eat
Bull... how else do you eat 12,000 calories a day. Phelps must've had the munchies 24/7.
Craig James was my wingman in '82.
February 26th, 2012 at 12:47 PM |
Manningham's techniques
Manningham's techniques
is incorrect on the 40s at the combine. He moved before he started running which starts the time. His true 40 is 4.4 and plays much faster on the field than Hemingway. This also shows how unprepared Manningham really is for the combine which is part of the reason why he "fell" in the draft. It's work ethics and off-field concerns.
February 26th, 2012 at 1:04 PM |
Coaches and scouts are there
Coaches and scouts are there
Coaches and scouts are there timing it themselves. If his time was the result of a quirk and not indicative of his true speed the evaluators would have seen it.
Galileo was also chastised.
February 26th, 2012 at 1:12 PM |
Yes but 4.6 is the combine's "official" time
Yes but 4.6 is the combine's "official" time
coaches/GM/scouts have their own time which would be the team's official time. The fact that Manningham has terrible work ethics and has big time off-field concerns is more than enough to drop him down in the draft board. Manningham didn't interview well which is another bad thing for him. It's not his 40 time that dropped him on the board. We know that he can run. Manningham has showed that he can consistently separate with ease which is a much better indicator than his 40 time.
February 27th, 2012 at 12:50 AM |
isnt that Andrew Luck's time
isnt that Andrew Luck's time
isnt that Andrew Luck's time
February 26th, 2012 at 3:13 PM |
He embarassed himself in
He embarassed himself in
He embarassed himself in every way possible at the combine IIRC.
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February 26th, 2012 at 10:47 AM |
Hm
Hm
It's crazy that a WR can do 21 reps but the Wisconsin center only did 18 or 19. I know it does'nt translate to the field but still a lineman at any position should do more than a WR.
February 26th, 2012 at 11:26 AM |
You have to take into account
You have to take into account
You have to take into account that the center has much longer arms than Hemingway. The longer the arms, the harder to bench press. This is one reason Molk was able to bench so much, he doesn't have very long arms.
"I would do anything to lose weight, but I draw the line at eating healthy and exercising."
TJ and the Pirates
February 26th, 2012 at 11:28 AM |
The other reason
The other reason
is because Molk is a total badass.
"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
February 26th, 2012 at 11:29 AM |
I agree but
I agree but
this also has to relate to having Barwis as well
February 26th, 2012 at 1:09 PM |
The relevant measurement
The relevant measurement
The relevant measurement isn't length of arms, but length of arms relative to width of chest. If you have long arms with a proportionally wide chest you're not at a disadvantage.
Galileo was also chastised.
February 26th, 2012 at 3:07 PM |
Right. People don't get it.
Right. People don't get it.
Right. People don't get it. Look at Kelechi Osemele's numbers. I think he has the longest arms in the draft and he faired just fine, if not great in the bench.
February 26th, 2012 at 11:59 AM |
Mike adams from OSU only did
Mike adams from OSU only did
Mike adams from OSU only did 18 i believe as well...
That nebraska dude only repped 225 13 times and ran a 6.00+ 40
February 26th, 2012 at 2:43 PM |
Hemingway does more reps at
Hemingway does more reps at
Hemingway does more reps at 225 than Ohio's best lineman who is also at the combine. Perhaps Ohio's steriod guy left with Tressel.
February 26th, 2012 at 3:08 PM |
Or perhaps bench reps are not
Or perhaps bench reps are not
Or perhaps bench reps are not indicitive of strength needed to be a good Olineman.
February 26th, 2012 at 4:09 PM |
bench press
bench press
is the worst measure of overall strength of a prospect. It's useless yet it's being used because it's more of a macho thing. The better indictator would be dead lift IMO.
February 26th, 2012 at 4:18 PM |
It's position dependent and
It's position dependent and
It's position dependent and an olineman would be better judged with the incline bench not the bench. An OLineman won't be deadlifting many people on the field but they would be incline pressing on the field.
BEAT OHIO
February 26th, 2012 at 5:56 PM |
Didn't even spell "steroid"
Didn't even spell "steroid"
Didn't even spell "steroid" right, boss.
HOKE SMASH.
February 26th, 2012 at 10:45 AM |
Another 4.5
Another 4.5
Another 4.5
For a' that, an' a' that,
Our toils obscure an' a' that,
The rank is but the guinea's stamp,
The man's the gowd for a' that.
Our toils obscure an' a' that,
The rank is but the guinea's stamp,
The man's the gowd for a' that.
February 26th, 2012 at 10:45 AM |
WORD! Seriously dude?
WORD! Seriously dude?
Where are the HATERS now! All the best Junior!
You have gotta' love this . . .
February 26th, 2012 at 12:04 PM |
Not a Hater, but you are
Not a Hater, but you are
Not a Hater, but you are gloating about Junior proving his 'HATERS' wrong at the combine...This didn't translate to the football field often, which is where he will truly be judged.I still don't believe he ran a 4.5...not the receiver I watched this year
February 26th, 2012 at 12:18 PM |
Wow, really? You're never
Wow, really? You're never
Wow, really? You're never going to get more accurate and public measurements of these athletes than at the NFL combine. But yeah, your eyes must be more accurate than the combine results.
February 26th, 2012 at 1:03 PM |
I'd say both of you are
I'd say both of you are
I'd say both of you are wrong. The Combine is not that useful. Every year some guy raises his stock dramatically based on a good Combine performance, only to show the next season why he wasn't that highly regarded in the first place. Being able to run fast in a straight line while wearing shorts and a tank top does not tell you that much about a football player.
OTOH, Junior clearly showed that he has big-play receiving ability on the field. With a guy like Henne throwing to him he'd have been a 1,000-yard WR.
February 26th, 2012 at 1:18 PM |
I did say that this speed
I did say that this speed
I did say that this speed didn't translate often to the football field. He seldom ran past guys on the field, relying on underthrown balls and his leaping ability (which is his strength along with very good hands) to get the big plays. All I was saying as you also said was that in essence, combine performances should not be relied on without on field success.
February 26th, 2012 at 2:20 PM |
Jr's YAC
Jr's YAC
are another big plus he has going for him.
go blue
February 26th, 2012 at 2:26 PM |
The combine is useful
The combine is useful
The combine is absolutely useful for exactly the above poster's point: determining how fast Junior can run a 40. And that's all it purports to do. The rest is armchair internet scouts layering their own meaning onto the results.
So when coldnjl says "i don't believe he ran a 4.5", well, that's an objectively wrong statement. When UMgradMSUdad says "this is a more accurate measurement of how fast he runs a 40 than your eyes", then that's definitely right.
February 26th, 2012 at 2:30 PM |
Actually,
Actually,
your eyes can be a good barometer of how fast a player runs on the field rather than in shorts. How often do you see players running on the field with shorts? Zero.
Biggest problem than the 40 is the ability of WRs to separate from DBs. Even if you run 4.3 or 4.4, if you can't separate from DBs, your speed is not going to matter at all. Hemingway must show that he can separate from NFL DBs which will always going to be his biggest question mark.
February 26th, 2012 at 5:14 PM |
Brian Cushing
Brian Cushing
(Steroids aside?!) would beg to differ. I know what you mean, the combine IS overrated, but it actually can help show that an under the radar player shouldn't be so and can raise his stock legitimately, via the combine.
February 26th, 2012 at 10:46 AM |
he made some money
he made some money
He made some money this weekend. I would think this would move him up to the middle rounds somewhere.
Those who stay will be Champions!
February 26th, 2012 at 10:48 AM |
Michael Floyd ran an
Michael Floyd ran an
Michael Floyd ran an impressive 4.42.
"im saying to myself should i do it should i not. I crossed the goaline and hey...fuck it" Desmond Howard on his Heisman pose
February 26th, 2012 at 6:01 PM |
Wow. Really surprised he was that low.
Wow. Really surprised he was that low.
That just made him a few extra bucks.
"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
-Bob Ufer
February 26th, 2012 at 1:43 PM |
Hello 1st round
Hello 1st round
I thought he would be around 4.5
Janeane Garofalo (Film Actors Guild): "As actors it is our responsibility to read the newspaper, and then say what we read on television like it's our opinion"
February 26th, 2012 at 4:49 PM |
Floyd's official time was a
Floyd's official time was a
Floyd's official time was a 4.47, according to nfl.com.
February 26th, 2012 at 6:02 PM |
And junior's went up to 4.53
And junior's went up to 4.53
.
"... never forget that Ohio is still a four-letter word."
-Bob Ufer
February 26th, 2012 at 10:56 AM |
Happy to hear that. I will
Happy to hear that. I will
Happy to hear that. I will always remember Junior tearing up on the podium after an emotional win. I will root for Junior wherever he goes.
February 26th, 2012 at 10:56 AM |
That's really cool.
That's really cool.
That's really cool. Hemmingway looked like a man among boys on many of his catches this year. His only real knock for the pros was that a lot of people thought he wasn't very fast. With his size and strength, 4.5 is very impressive. Congrats to him for proving some of his naysayers wrong.
February 26th, 2012 at 10:57 AM |
Junior ran a 4.5? It's
Junior ran a 4.5? It's
Junior ran a 4.5? It's definitely possible seeing as how he had to slow down to catch most of the jump balls that came his way.
I think Junior Hemingway is actually going to have a very good pro career. He is going to be a possession number 2 reciever who will get you first downs and help your running game tremendously.
Yeah...I said it....TREMENDOUSLY!!!
Good for junior - in a numbers based game he will give you more than numbers.
February 26th, 2012 at 11:31 AM |
Bring him
Bring him
to the lions!
February 26th, 2012 at 12:13 PM |
"Jump balls?"
"Jump balls?"
What if Denard was coached by the previous regime to "underthrow" balls to covered receivers and let the defenders overrun them? I have seen other coaches and their QB's do this from time to time over the years.
It's really a pretty clever thing to do, like football Aikido: turning the defender's momentum against him. I think a lot of those balls were thrown that way to take advantage of receiver's position relative to the cb or safety.
He also completed 21 reps on the bench. The WR high was 22. He is making some money this weekend. Good for Junior.