Mo Ways for stockpiling Juju on the defense?
Must get for more puns.
Mo Ways for stockpiling Juju on the defense?
Must get for more puns.
This is good juju, not bad juju.
Him and Peppers. Yes please.
That's greedy haha
plays for Alabama.
Hopefully,he'll take his ov with JuJu too.
....and Hand and Bars and McDowell....
This kid could play safety or wide receiver and be good at either one. He also has a handy nickname, since John Smith is just kind of boring and makes me think of Pocahontas.
Assuming the staff is looking at Juju at safety? Otherwise, would guess that A.Scott's recruitment would be tapering off?
The last thing I heard, the coaches were talking about him mainly as a safety prospect. I don't know why the Artavis Scott recruitment would be wearing off. Michigan has been pursuing both players all along and Smith said awhile ago that he would probably visit, so this isn't really a new development (other than the specific date).
Apparently the Michigan staff agrees with your sentiments; domer sites are reporting that Juju has stated that Michigan is willing to give him a look on both sides of the ball, while the rest of his top 5 (tOSU, ND, USC, UCLA) are primarily at safety.
I asked him on twitter where he was interested in visiting next and he said he's going to be making a few visits to the California schools just because they're close. I get the feeling his recruitment is very open at this point.
The staff wouldn't stop recruiting Scott because they got another WR to schedule an official visit
Can we all agree to start using the 24/7 composite rankings for the definitive value? It seems that they more fully encompass the overall value of a recruit, rather than one of the services being an outlier. Sorry to nitpick, just something I'd like to establish as a rule going forward...
Why not? I think it's a good idea.
Because you touch yourself at night.
Usually in the morning, in the shower.
Someone's not paying attention.
I'd like to know whether the services rank him about the same or have significant disagreement. Could their rankings vary because they project him to different positions, list different measurables, etc?
I was more referring to the fact that he was listed as 84th on the ESPN 150 in the OP, without listing where he was on the other services. It's not like I felt personally offended or am aiming to start a crusade to rid the world of non-aggregate rankings, it just seemed kind of arbitrary. I think more effort has been put into the thread of conversation than is needed though...
I misunderstand you, I'd personally like all four listed
But isn't multiple (reliable) data points better than just one? I think what the poster meant was, if you're only going to list one, list the composite. I agree with you that getting all four individually is always best, but most posters don't put that much work into it. So instead of listing just ESPN or just Rivals, list the composite, and anything above that is gravy.
that's why i used composite in my best guess list post. It's also the first one I look up when we get new commits now.
This place is going to deteriorate rapidly if every one of the however-many thousand mgousers get to make a rule.
What does IMO mean?
In My Opinion
not what it means, at least NIMO
In Magnus' opinion
Based on the 247 article with quotes from him, he's looking for a visit where everything is genuine and they don't put on a show for him - sounds perfect for this staff's style of recruiting.
I see a t-shirt in MGoBlog's future....
It says "Real Recognize Real" and it features Jabrill Peppers calling out to recruits like Juju Smith. I'd buy that.
Yes! This is the perfect game for him to visit for. The kid is an absolute stud.
I am also taking an unofficial visit for the ND game as well.
Wouldn't mind seeing him at WR too, just for the chance to hear "Jayru to Juju". Assuming a lot here, I know.
Don't forget Jayru to Jehu.
Not every school can put together a good/great class.
A group of teams including Bama can do it consistently though.
The quality of the recruits is not what separates Bama. Any difference is star rating is minimal with the top schools.
It is the fact they sign 5 years worth of those guys versus about 4 for the other top programs.
In the past 5 years, Alabama has signed 126 kids. Michigan has signed 121 in the same time. Doesn't sound like too big of a difference to me.
Who makes it into your "signed" bucket?
Signed as in signed an LOI, per Rivals. Also, despite getting hit with sanctions, OSU isn't that far behind either at 116. That's a difference of 2 kids per year over the past 5 years, not the 6 kids per year that "5 years worth of kids in 4 years" would be.
Anyway, I'm not claiming shady tactics aren't happening. What I was getting at is that it's not the number of guys Alabama signs, as they aren't signing significantly more than a school like Michigan or OSU - it's that while we lose guys to transfers, they lose guys by giving them "medical scholarships". Also, in that 5 year period, they had 13 kids go to the NFL early, nearly half of a recruiting class. It doesn't excuse anything related to the medical scholarships they hand out like candy, but it has an effect.
don't see any big deal with telling a player that, as it stands, they are not going to crack the two or three deep, and give them the option to transfer or quit football and finish their education for free. Doesn't seem egregious to me.
Of course Michigan had a coaching transition so that distorts the numbers quite a bit. The fact that Alabama is still out in front is actually quite remarkable.
We actually had 2 coaching transitions in those 5 years
I guess I should specify. No, UTEP isnt going to have a (great) top ten class but many schools pull off something I would call above their average class every so often. Look at Ole Miss last year with getting four, yes four 5-star kids to sign, and eight 4-star kids to sign . . . that would be a great class. Do you really think thats going to happen for the next several years? Probably not. My point is most schools can do something special in a year, but to year after year get that pull is what is the difference maker in creating long term success.
disclaimer - no, star ratings dont always equal on the field success or stardom, but most of this board, myself included would be telling a lie if they said we didnt like the star ratings bump that we have enjoyed over the last 2.5 recruiting cycles. More often than not stars mixed with good coaching equals alot of wins.
Those 'special years' you mention are the ones that get teams like that in trouble.
Ole Miss is absolutely paying recruits to sign. Auburn did it. USC did it. OSU did it. Clemson did it. SMU did it.
Teams that don't traditionally bring in talet then suddenly everyone wants to go to are very fishy.
To see how a team slowly builds a program and does it the right way, look no further than Northwestern. That's a program that does it the right way.
They do have a pretty decent head coach too...
This is big. Getting elite talents to visit for big games. I definitely want this kid at Michigan
...is Donovan Warren's high school. I wonder how the Smith-Warren-Michigan relations are?
But I believe I read somewhere that he had talked to Warren and the implied vibe was positive. It may have been on ESPN Insider
that's probably going to be the best. OSU might be a great game to see, but night games are hard to top. Especially considering OSU is a freezing cold November game
Yeah a freezing cold November game probably isn't the best way to impress a California kid.
You never know what can happen on a visit, especially if the game is like the UTL game 2 years ago.