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May 7th, 2013 at 2:00 PM
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Mo Ways for stockpiling Juju

Mo Ways for stockpiling Juju on the defense?

Must get for more puns.

Amiwrite?  Amiwrite?

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May 7th, 2013 at 3:50 PM
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This is good juju, not bad

This is good juju, not bad juju.

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:03 PM
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Him and Peppers. Yes please.

Him and Peppers. Yes please.

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:20 PM
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And Jackson.

And Jackson.

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:21 PM
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That's greedy haha

That's greedy haha

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:39 PM
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HaHa

plays for Alabama.

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May 7th, 2013 at 3:36 PM
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YES,PLEASE Adoree.

Hopefully,he'll take his ov with JuJu too.

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:20 PM
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....and Hand and Bars and

....and Hand and Bars and McDowell....

MOAR RECRUITS!!!

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:26 PM
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I was speaking just

I was speaking just secondary, but yes.

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May 7th, 2013 at 4:11 PM
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Westphal

Everyone forgets about Westphal. The kid is a stud and Michigan has a great shot of getting him.

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:05 PM
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This kid could play safety or

This kid could play safety or wide receiver and be good at either one.  He also has a handy nickname, since John Smith is just kind of boring and makes me think of Pocahontas.

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:07 PM
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Not me

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:08 PM
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Assuming the staff is looking

Assuming the staff is looking at Juju at safety?  Otherwise, would guess that A.Scott's recruitment would be tapering off?

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:10 PM
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The last thing I heard, the

The last thing I heard, the coaches were talking about him mainly as a safety prospect.  I don't know why the Artavis Scott recruitment would be wearing off.  Michigan has been pursuing both players all along and Smith said awhile ago that he would probably visit, so this isn't really a new development (other than the specific date).

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:21 PM
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Apparently the Michigan staff

Apparently the Michigan staff agrees with your sentiments; domer sites are reporting that Juju has stated that Michigan is willing to give him a look on both sides of the ball, while the rest of his top 5 (tOSU, ND, USC, UCLA) are primarily at safety.

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May 7th, 2013 at 6:56 PM
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I asked him on twitter where

I asked him on twitter where he was interested in visiting next and he said he's going to be making a few visits to the California schools just because they're close.  I get the feeling his recruitment is very open at this point.

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:11 PM
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The staff wouldn't stop

The staff wouldn't stop recruiting Scott because they got another WR to schedule an official visit

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:11 PM
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Can we all agree to start

Can we all agree to start using the 24/7 composite rankings for the definitive value?  It seems that they more fully encompass the overall value of a recruit, rather than one of the services being an outlier.  Sorry to nitpick, just something I'd like to establish as a rule going forward...

 

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:17 PM
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May 7th, 2013 at 2:21 PM
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No

No

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:27 PM
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Why not? I think it's a good

Why not? I think it's a good idea.

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May 7th, 2013 at 3:05 PM
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Because you touch yourself at

Because you touch yourself at night.

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May 7th, 2013 at 4:58 PM
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Usually in the morning, in

Usually in the morning, in the shower.

Someone's not paying attention.

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May 7th, 2013 at 3:29 PM
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Aren't you missing out on useful information?

I'd like to know whether the services rank him about the same or have significant disagreement. Could their rankings vary because they project him to different positions, list different measurables, etc?

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May 7th, 2013 at 3:38 PM
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I was more referring to the

I was more referring to the fact that he was listed as 84th on the ESPN 150 in the OP, without listing where he was on the other services.  It's not like I felt personally offended or am aiming to start a crusade to rid the world of non-aggregate rankings, it just seemed kind of arbitrary.  I think more effort has been put into the thread of conversation than is needed though...

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May 7th, 2013 at 4:25 PM
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I misunderstand you, I'd personally like all four

I misunderstand you, I'd personally like all four listed

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May 7th, 2013 at 5:38 PM
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But isn't multiple (reliable)

But isn't multiple (reliable) data points better than just one? I think what the poster meant was, if you're only going to list one, list the composite. I agree with you that getting all four individually is always best, but most posters don't put that much work into it. So instead of listing just ESPN or just Rivals, list the composite, and anything above that is gravy.

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May 7th, 2013 at 6:02 PM
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Agree

that's why i used composite in my best guess list post. It's also the first one I look up when we get new commits now.

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May 7th, 2013 at 3:20 PM
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"Rules?"

This place is going to deteriorate rapidly if every one of the however-many thousand mgousers get to make a rule.

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:31 PM
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IMO

What does IMO mean?

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:32 PM
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In My Opinion

In My Opinion

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May 7th, 2013 at 4:36 PM
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That's

not what it means, at least NIMO

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May 7th, 2013 at 3:07 PM
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In Magnus' opinion

In Magnus' opinion

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:32 PM
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Based on the 247 article with

Based on the 247 article with quotes from him, he's looking for a visit where everything is genuine and they don't put on a show for him - sounds perfect for this staff's style of recruiting.

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May 7th, 2013 at 3:23 PM
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I see a t-shirt in MGoBlog's

I see a t-shirt in MGoBlog's future....

It says "Real Recognize Real" and it features Jabrill Peppers calling out to recruits like Juju Smith. I'd buy that.

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:35 PM
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Yes! This is the perfect game

Yes! This is the perfect game for him to visit for. The kid is an absolute stud.

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:59 PM
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I am also taking an unofficial visit for the ND game as well.

I am also taking an unofficial visit for the ND game as well.

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:39 PM
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Wouldn't mind

Wouldn't mind seeing him at WR too, just for the chance to hear "Jayru to Juju". Assuming a lot here, I know.

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May 7th, 2013 at 3:11 PM
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Don't forget Jayru to Jehu.

Don't forget Jayru to Jehu.

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May 7th, 2013 at 2:40 PM
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I disagree

Not every school can put together a good/great class.



A group of teams including Bama can do it consistently though.



The quality of the recruits is not what separates Bama. Any difference is star rating is minimal with the top schools.



It is the fact they sign 5 years worth of those guys versus about 4 for the other top programs.

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May 7th, 2013 at 3:15 PM
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In the past 5 years, Alabama

In the past 5 years, Alabama has signed 126 kids. Michigan has signed 121 in the same time. Doesn't sound like too big of a difference to me.

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May 7th, 2013 at 3:29 PM
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Who makes it into your

Who makes it into your "signed" bucket?

These guys?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703384204575509901468451306.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsForth#articleTabs%3Darticle

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Signed as in signed an LOI,

Signed as in signed an LOI, per Rivals. Also, despite getting hit with sanctions, OSU isn't that far behind either at 116. That's a difference of 2 kids per year over the past 5 years, not the 6 kids per year that "5 years worth of kids in 4 years" would be.

Anyway, I'm not claiming shady tactics aren't happening. What I was getting at is that it's not the number of guys Alabama signs, as they aren't signing significantly more than a school like Michigan or OSU - it's that while we lose guys to transfers, they lose guys by giving them "medical scholarships". Also, in that 5 year period, they had 13 kids go to the NFL early, nearly half of a recruiting class. It doesn't excuse anything related to the medical scholarships they hand out like candy, but it has an effect.

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I guess I just

don't see any big deal with telling a player that, as it stands, they are not going to crack the two or three deep, and give them the option to transfer or quit football and finish their education for free. Doesn't seem egregious to me.

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Of course Michigan had a

Of course Michigan had a coaching transition so that distorts the numbers quite a bit.  The fact that Alabama is still out in front is actually quite remarkable.

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We actually

We actually had 2 coaching transitions in those 5 years

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I guess I should specify. No,

I guess I should specify. No, UTEP isnt going to have a (great) top ten class but many schools pull off something I would call above their average class every so often. Look at Ole Miss last year with getting four, yes four 5-star kids to sign, and eight 4-star kids to sign . . . that would be a great class. Do you really think thats going to happen for the next several years? Probably not. My point is most schools can do something special in a year, but to year after year get that pull is what is the difference maker in creating long term success.

disclaimer - no, star ratings dont always equal on the field success or stardom, but most of this board, myself included would be telling a lie if they said we didnt like the star ratings bump that we have enjoyed over the last 2.5 recruiting cycles. More often than not stars mixed with good coaching equals alot of wins.

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Those 'special years' you

Those 'special years' you mention are the ones that get teams like that in trouble.

Ole Miss is absolutely paying recruits to sign. Auburn did it. USC did it. OSU did it. Clemson did it. SMU did it.

Teams that don't traditionally bring in talet then suddenly everyone wants to go to are very fishy.

To see how a team slowly builds a program and does it the right way, look no further than Northwestern. That's a program that does it the right way.

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They do have a pretty decent

They do have a pretty decent head coach too...

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May 7th, 2013 at 3:04 PM
#353
turtleboy
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This is big. Getting elite

This is big. Getting elite talents to visit for big games. I definitely want this kid at Michigan

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May 7th, 2013 at 3:24 PM
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Section 1
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Long Beach Poly

...is Donovan Warren's high school.  I wonder how the Smith-Warren-Michigan relations are?

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May 7th, 2013 at 4:50 PM
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No link

But I believe I read somewhere that he had talked to Warren and the implied vibe was positive.  It may have been on ESPN Insider

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May 7th, 2013 at 5:50 PM
#356
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Of all the games he could visit

that's probably going to be the best. OSU might be a great game to see, but night games are hard to top. Especially considering OSU is a freezing cold November game

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May 7th, 2013 at 7:10 PM
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Yeah a freezing cold November

Yeah a freezing cold November game probably isn't the best way to impress a California kid.

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May 8th, 2013 at 12:30 AM
#358
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You never know what can

You never know what can happen on a visit, especially if the game is like the UTL game 2 years ago.

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